The college thing is like $100 a month for 3 year or so. When you get out it pays for your tuition and then pays BAS. So I was getting $1500 a month while going to school. That inspires some loyalty to the state.
The suck people go through to get that pay and pension is worth far more than they get.
Ever see the medical info on retired rangers, green berets, etc? Those dudes have excellent retirement for whatever life their broken bodies have left in them. I've met plenty a retired seal / gb / etc who I wouldn't trade their medical issues for all the pensions in the world.
Oh and the ones who survive to retire without full medical retirement (or they went to an asshole doc), they're stuck entering the workplace at 40-ish with no marketable skills, or going back overseas as a contractor to pay for their family and many lose their family as a result of constant overseas contract jobs.
Are there jackoffs who milk the system? Sure, but lanblasting the whole to spite the few is a dickless move.
*So perhaps not to you, but to your comment I say fuck off good sir.
What you said about no marketable skills was one of my fears when I turned 27 and was still enlisted. It hit me one day that I had no actual work experience and no, the civilian world doesn't like the military.
Be creative. What did you do in the military? Were you in charge of people? Boom, management! Were those people issued BII? You were in charge of X+ people representing $Xmillion dollars of US assets.
Pretty easy to dress up a resume, even for someone down the shipoop list in the infantry.
They have no action that can be taken. Any action without orders is a military coup. Their oath covers inaction or going directly against orders (rare, very rare), but not instigating an act.
They're servants to the republic and should not act either way unless called upon.
It’s hard for an 18 year old to disobey orders coming from the top down. Even if they do, they’re liable to be thrown in the brig. Not as simple as walking off the job like any cop can do
What are we doing besides griping on this board? Its time to admit we all fucked this up. Trump gave us four fucking years to get out and organize. Counter the democrat messaging, campaign for state judges who wouldn't tear up election laws, dox democrats calling for violence, primary RINOs, challenge Democrats, and so on.
We sat here memeing and now blame Trump for not fixing everything while we shitposted? That's weak. This is as much on us as anyone. Time for complaining is over, its time to start making a difference. Number 1 priority is getting involved in your local politics. If you don't want to run yourself, find a based candidate who is and support them. Get involved in your county's election board and election staff. We need patriots counting those votes, not joggers on the dole. We need funding for legal groups to bring lawsuits against cancel culture faggots and to challenge liberal efforts to weaken election security.
We need people writing letters to everyone, weekly, for 4 years letting them know they are trash, or if they are doing the right thing.
It took us a long time to lose the country this much. Its going to take a long time to get it back.
Wholeheartedly agree with your words. I will add on that its more than just finding a based candidate. We need some of our own out there running for office. We can't just sit back and watch leftists phone bank like crazy during election time and spread their lies.
Never once have I received a message from a republican through text. However I think that its time to start a new party, and/or run more people as independents. The GOP is shit, we shouldn't support them.
Blame Q and all the Qlarp bullshit. And people like Powell and Lin Wood who got everyone hooked on "trust the plan" after the election was stolen.
It kept so many on our side complacent and placated. Sitting around and doing nothing other than "trust the plan" with the belief that there are super secret forces within the government defeating the deep state.
I've suspected that Q was a deep state intelligence operation designed to keep our side from organizing. After Trump, they realized how much power we had and how big our numbers were and were terrified of what we could accomplish if we actually organized and acted.
I don’t think people understand that Trump simply didn’t approach the military regarding the election rigging and coup it’s that simple, IA and Martial Law wasn’t an option for him
This is why the democrats are panicking for two months & why the want to remove him now, democrats really thought he would go for this option and are surprised he didn’t do it.
The difference is that Trump and his supporters never cancelled people, never charged them with sedition, never censored, never tried to make them domestic terrorists. The left is in fact doing those things.
But I get your point. The left devalues words until they don't mean anything. A person who is incapable of seeing the difference would simply make the comparison you just did and pretend as if there's nothing wrong with it. It sounds like a great logical argument so many people.
You expect me to believe any, or at least the majority give a damn about you, their country or the constitution? I used to believe all that duty and honor bs, and then we saw how the boys in blue really fly. Why should the military be any different? So long as they get their check, they would bbq an orphanage if ordered to.
By the way: same shit, different name. Fascism is an offshoot of communism, Eric July explained it beautifully in a video a couple of days ago. Side note: if you haven’t heard of Eric July and For Canon’s Sake - watch it!
What is the military supposed to do smart guy? Do you think they can walk into work tomorrow and be like “I’d like a tank Mr. Person.” and one just fucking magics itself into existence all gunned up and ready to go? Then they can just drive off and stop an insurrection? You’re retarded.
Most will not follow unconstitutional orders. Some will and that’s sad. That’s about all they can do and all you can hope for. It has nothing to do with keeping that so called sweet pension or medical. In the end they have no more power to physically stop this than you do.
Depends on what information their superiors feed them, I seem to recall there being crackdowns on soldier's access to the internet because "information security"...
I posted here earlier. a majority of the younger military are coming in to do intel work and a majority are super liberal and only their for the long term benefits of serving out their contract. then you have the shift bag lifers who need their pension
Ahh the infamous, fuck you, got mine. Not surprised. It is easier to just submit to the State and the culture it pushes on others than it is to do anything about it. It's only people who's lives aren't going the way they want that actually care and once you realize the government is a large factor in why people's lives aren't going their way, it's harder to ignore.
I agree with your overall conclusion though. People here didn't do anything and are now finding out if you don't do anything, nothing happens.
The point of my question though is wondering why there aren't anyone in the military who'd try something. I guess a decent paycheck and porn/wife/family is good enough for most men to not really care.
Yeah. Why would they care? Pension plan is sweet and free college and health care. It’s literally a commie set up for them that they function in.
Only about 17% earn a pension in the entire military and the pension is weak, not sweat at all like commie state pensions. Barely enough to live on.
And the college is not free. You have to put money into it and actually show up to work. Can't just sit on your ass like commies.
Yep. This is someone that's bitter that they weren't allowed to join because they were either a fatshit, a loser, or a criminal.
The college thing is like $100 a month for 3 year or so. When you get out it pays for your tuition and then pays BAS. So I was getting $1500 a month while going to school. That inspires some loyalty to the state.
Fuck off*
The suck people go through to get that pay and pension is worth far more than they get.
Ever see the medical info on retired rangers, green berets, etc? Those dudes have excellent retirement for whatever life their broken bodies have left in them. I've met plenty a retired seal / gb / etc who I wouldn't trade their medical issues for all the pensions in the world.
Oh and the ones who survive to retire without full medical retirement (or they went to an asshole doc), they're stuck entering the workplace at 40-ish with no marketable skills, or going back overseas as a contractor to pay for their family and many lose their family as a result of constant overseas contract jobs.
Are there jackoffs who milk the system? Sure, but lanblasting the whole to spite the few is a dickless move.
*So perhaps not to you, but to your comment I say fuck off good sir.
Good day.
Gtfo doomer.
If the military acted like you wanted they'd be 5yr olds running around town crying.
What you said about no marketable skills was one of my fears when I turned 27 and was still enlisted. It hit me one day that I had no actual work experience and no, the civilian world doesn't like the military.
Be creative. What did you do in the military? Were you in charge of people? Boom, management! Were those people issued BII? You were in charge of X+ people representing $Xmillion dollars of US assets.
Pretty easy to dress up a resume, even for someone down the shipoop list in the infantry.
Look like many leaders are swamp ?
Did a servicemeber steal all your girlfriends?
Edit: I see there are a bunch of betas whose girlfriends were stolen by servicemembers. Hell, some of you might be raising my kids....
Just my tax dollars.
Not no.
Jody has a place in the military too...
There are good people in the military. I know a ton of them. I was one.
Seething, and hoping Trump will send out some reasonable orders.
Their oath is basically an order, and apparently they aren't following it
They literally are following their oaths.
Calm down doomer
Do they have orders one way or the other?
No?
They have no action that can be taken. Any action without orders is a military coup. Their oath covers inaction or going directly against orders (rare, very rare), but not instigating an act.
They're servants to the republic and should not act either way unless called upon.
It’s hard for an 18 year old to disobey orders coming from the top down. Even if they do, they’re liable to be thrown in the brig. Not as simple as walking off the job like any cop can do
I'm sure that sentiment is comforting to holocaust survivors
What are we doing besides griping on this board? Its time to admit we all fucked this up. Trump gave us four fucking years to get out and organize. Counter the democrat messaging, campaign for state judges who wouldn't tear up election laws, dox democrats calling for violence, primary RINOs, challenge Democrats, and so on.
We sat here memeing and now blame Trump for not fixing everything while we shitposted? That's weak. This is as much on us as anyone. Time for complaining is over, its time to start making a difference. Number 1 priority is getting involved in your local politics. If you don't want to run yourself, find a based candidate who is and support them. Get involved in your county's election board and election staff. We need patriots counting those votes, not joggers on the dole. We need funding for legal groups to bring lawsuits against cancel culture faggots and to challenge liberal efforts to weaken election security.
We need people writing letters to everyone, weekly, for 4 years letting them know they are trash, or if they are doing the right thing.
It took us a long time to lose the country this much. Its going to take a long time to get it back.
Wholeheartedly agree with your words. I will add on that its more than just finding a based candidate. We need some of our own out there running for office. We can't just sit back and watch leftists phone bank like crazy during election time and spread their lies. Never once have I received a message from a republican through text. However I think that its time to start a new party, and/or run more people as independents. The GOP is shit, we shouldn't support them.
Oh the message you all the time begging for money. Messaging about stuff that matters - that’s a different story.
Apparently we're telling ourselves to do nothing, just like the last 4 years of "trust the plan."
Blame Q and all the Qlarp bullshit. And people like Powell and Lin Wood who got everyone hooked on "trust the plan" after the election was stolen.
It kept so many on our side complacent and placated. Sitting around and doing nothing other than "trust the plan" with the belief that there are super secret forces within the government defeating the deep state.
I've suspected that Q was a deep state intelligence operation designed to keep our side from organizing. After Trump, they realized how much power we had and how big our numbers were and were terrified of what we could accomplish if we actually organized and acted.
we need to control the creation of money or you won't get anything done that you say.. time to split the country up
I don’t think people understand that Trump simply didn’t approach the military regarding the election rigging and coup it’s that simple, IA and Martial Law wasn’t an option for him
This is why the democrats are panicking for two months & why the want to remove him now, democrats really thought he would go for this option and are surprised he didn’t do it.
They dont care, all they want is more money for the millitary, and more wars. If you think otherwise, you're a moron.
Blah
I didn't reenlist under Obama. Fuck that faggot.
Just stick to your goddamn oath when it comes down to it no matter the cost
They are not and got blinded just like us. You think units in TX, LA, FLA...you think they support this commie hospice patient. Not a chance in hell.
That's why the military is always kept young, they can brainwash whatever current generation of soldier with whatever narrative they want.
Look at cops and you have your answer.
"Just following orders"
Lefty democrat youths said the same thing when Trump won.
The difference is that Trump and his supporters never cancelled people, never charged them with sedition, never censored, never tried to make them domestic terrorists. The left is in fact doing those things.
But I get your point. The left devalues words until they don't mean anything. A person who is incapable of seeing the difference would simply make the comparison you just did and pretend as if there's nothing wrong with it. It sounds like a great logical argument so many people.
You expect me to believe any, or at least the majority give a damn about you, their country or the constitution? I used to believe all that duty and honor bs, and then we saw how the boys in blue really fly. Why should the military be any different? So long as they get their check, they would bbq an orphanage if ordered to.
By the way: same shit, different name. Fascism is an offshoot of communism, Eric July explained it beautifully in a video a couple of days ago. Side note: if you haven’t heard of Eric July and For Canon’s Sake - watch it!
What is the military supposed to do smart guy? Do you think they can walk into work tomorrow and be like “I’d like a tank Mr. Person.” and one just fucking magics itself into existence all gunned up and ready to go? Then they can just drive off and stop an insurrection? You’re retarded.
Most will not follow unconstitutional orders. Some will and that’s sad. That’s about all they can do and all you can hope for. It has nothing to do with keeping that so called sweet pension or medical. In the end they have no more power to physically stop this than you do.
The people in the military are like the police. They will go against the constitution if they're told to. It's all about a paycheck.
Depends on what information their superiors feed them, I seem to recall there being crackdowns on soldier's access to the internet because "information security"...
i have no respect for anyone that works for our government at this point. QUIT YOUR JOBS!!!
I posted here earlier. a majority of the younger military are coming in to do intel work and a majority are super liberal and only their for the long term benefits of serving out their contract. then you have the shift bag lifers who need their pension
God loves the Infantry....
Ahh the infamous, fuck you, got mine. Not surprised. It is easier to just submit to the State and the culture it pushes on others than it is to do anything about it. It's only people who's lives aren't going the way they want that actually care and once you realize the government is a large factor in why people's lives aren't going their way, it's harder to ignore.
I agree with your overall conclusion though. People here didn't do anything and are now finding out if you don't do anything, nothing happens.
The point of my question though is wondering why there aren't anyone in the military who'd try something. I guess a decent paycheck and porn/wife/family is good enough for most men to not really care.
They are perfectly okay with it, and if given the order they would happily turn DC into Tiananmen Square.
Sure champ, roll with that.
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They are about to launch a new war in the Middle East. They could give fuck all.
Not yet and not ever.....
Calm your tits, it's not January 21 yet.
Also the military is relatively segregated from all this.
When an unlawful order comes down, that is when they have to choose between oath or order.
That's how it works.
Orange man bad.