I have discussed on this website, in the past, about my brother. He is a liberal and I am a conservative and, when it comes to politics, we mix like oil and water. Despite this, for the long time, I have held the hope that we could get along.
He had not heard of the incident between Project Veritas and PBS. I informed him that the man had said children of Trump supporters should be put in reeducation camps because they were being raised by hateful people. His response had started off great, that the dude was a total retard. Then it quickly took a turn for the worst.
He started bringing up the capitol incident. I could have argued that it was a false flag based on numerous points. It happened before Trump finished his speech at the rally. The various photo ops caught on camera, the lack of violence at the protest - etcetera. Instead, I asked him why he bothered to mention the capitol protest.
He seemed to agree with the notion that Trump supporters were hateful. This I would have been fine with, even if I disagreed. What caught my attention was him transition from insulting the PBS bastard to the capitol protest. He didn't agree with reeducation camps but the capitol hill protests were acts of domestic terrorism. People will zero-in on the capitol hill protest being called terrorism but I didn't, largely because I can understand how an MSM consumer might think that. My concern was why mention them when we are discussing whether reeducation camps are fine or not.
As I continued to press the matter, while a family member tried to steer the conversation away, his excuse for bringing if up was that I asked why was it brought up. Mind you, I only asked after he brought it up. I, unfortunately, didn't get the opportunity to point this out as he was pulled away by others in an attempt to stop the impending shit storm.
I'mma be honest pedes, I don't know how to adequately describe how I feel about this. I'm both enraged and shocked that someone could justify reeducation camps for people because of their parents political affiliation. I'm disturbed at my very core because of this. The salt in the wound was hearing that his girlfriend agreed that children of Trump supporters should be reeductaed. I've never had the urge to hurt family members but at that moment? I felt the urge to bust his mouth open.
Just, what kind of a piece of shit do you have to be to justify putting fellow humans into reeducation camps for something they didn't even do? I just - it fucking baffles me. How the fuck could you think that and still be okay with your life?
These are two real people from actual blue states. The people on the left genuinely wish inhumane things upon us. They genuinely have double standards and don't care about it. Twitter has manifested its self into reality - no. Twitter is a manifestation of the left without inhibition...
I have discussed on this website, in the past, about my brother. He is a liberal and I am a conservative and, when it comes to politics, we mix like oil and water. Despite this, for the long time, I have held the hope that we could get along.
He had not heard of the incident between Project Veritas and PBS. I informed him that the man had said children of Trump supporters should be put in reeducation camps because they were being raised by hateful people. His response had started off great, that the dude was a total retard. Then it quickly took a turn for the worst.
He started bringing up the capitol incident. I could have argued that it was a false flag based on numerous points. It happened before Trump finished his speech at the rally. The various photo ops caught on camera, the lack of violence at the protest - etcetera. Instead, I asked him why he bothered to mention the capitol protest.
He seemed to agree with the notion that Trump supporters were hateful. This I would have been fine with, even if I disagreed. What caught my attention was him transition from insulting the PBS bastard to the capitol protest. He didn't agree with reeducation camps *but* the capitol hill protests were acts of domestic terrorism. People will zero-in on the capitol hill protest being called terrorism but I didn't, largely because I can understand how an MSM consumer might think that. My concern was *why mention them when we are discussing whether reeducation camps are fine or not.*
As I continued to press the matter, while a family member tried to steer the conversation away, his excuse for bringing if up was that I asked why was it brought up. Mind you, I only asked *after* he brought it up. I, unfortunately, didn't get the opportunity to point this out as he was pulled away by others in an attempt to stop the impending shit storm.
I'mma be honest pedes, I don't know how to adequately describe how I feel about this. I'm both enraged and shocked that someone could justify reeducation camps for people because of their parents political affiliation. I'm disturbed at my very core because of this. The salt in the wound was hearing that his girlfriend agreed that children of Trump supporters should be reeductaed. I've never had the urge to hurt family members but at that moment? I felt the urge to bust his mouth open.
Just, what kind of a *piece of shit* do you have to be to justify putting fellow humans into reeducation camps for something they didn't even do? I just - it fucking baffles me. How the fuck could you think that and still be okay with your life?
These are two *real* people from *actual* blue states. The people on the left genuinely wish inhumane things upon us. They genuinely have double standards and don't care about it. Twitter has manifested its self into reality - no. Twitter is a manifestation of the left without inhibition...
The pictures of DC burning during the summer of BLM/Klantifa he's ok with?
The same capital being stormed by protesters in 2018 during the Kavanaugh hearings he's ok with?
The forest fires lit by BLM/Klantifa and blamed on "global warming" are ok?
Only when a few windows get broken, the only person killed was an unarmed Air Force veteran does it now get to be "violent"? Even the small amount of destruction was a blatant false flag.
And just so we never forget, the massive voter fraud which makes every law and even our constitution useless should never be allowed to stand.
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I'm not sure if the capitol was a false flag or not. People have the right to hit their bully back. What's not acceptable is the overreaction to it. This is massively overblown.
From what information we've been able to piece together on it there does seem to be some funny business going on as well but it's really hard to tell to what true extent.
As a foreign observer he should tell his liberal friend this...
From abroad this is the US's Tianamen Square. It is an enormous embarrassment to the USA and not for the reason the liberals claim (that it was an attack on democracy). In fact the liberal's spin on it makes it all the more embarrassing. The cause was democracy. They talk of violence but we have four dead Trump supporters and one we know was murdered in cold blood with the use of lethal force against an unarmed protester. They make a big point of protesters being armed when on investigation a few had pepper spray, some had sticks and one had a crutch. We didn't even see the one pitchfork that was promised. No one has even been able to truly show who started it. How a relatively small rabble was able to storm the capital so easily is also suspect.
You run an election that's dodgy as fuck and then your elites desperately obstruct any effort to properly examine it. When people call foul and they refuse to even hear it that's what despotic regimes with fake elections do.
When the people were denied representation with their representatives barred from voicing the concerns and objections of the election in the proceedings that was an act against democracy and it gives the people the right to protest in the chamber themselves if their representatives are prohibited.
One cop also deliberately pushed a Trump supporter off a wall, presumably to his death.
What was his name?
I'm assuming that was one of them as well. There's a suspicious information void. That looks like at least reckless homicide if death, possibly attempted murder.
Of course they do, people on "the left" believe they are operating from a position of moral superiority. There is no limit to the torture people are willing to inflict on others when they believe it is "for their own good"
The only possible position for them to take is to result to these type of punitive suggestions because they know that their arguments are no good and will not stand up to logical scrutiny. That however, is irrelevant because like the religious zealot, they believe without reason that their morality is superior and thus they can generate the cognitive dissonance to justify things that if someone else were doing it they would consider evil.
The greatest example of this is election fraud. Literally for the last 4 years Democrats have expounded on the variety of ways that the election was stolen in direct contradiction to the multitude of evidence found after thorough investigations. Yet in 2 months time we have almost gotten to the point where wanting to investigate election fraud is almost a crime. Once again, in direct contradiction of overwhelming evidence.
This isn't anything new though, it's a basic cycle of politics. Everyone needs to read Plato's republic. It's one of the main works our founders studied before drafting the constitution. So far the document has protected us, but we have been slowly chipping away at it since it's inception.
I've talked to people on the left and they like to say hateful a lot. It's really like a conditioning. If you ask them what it means and how they can be sure they're not being hateful then it puts them on the spot. They tend to call things hateful for the purpose of being hateful. If you can construed it as hateful then you can justify your hate toward it.
Plato didn't get everything right. Consider this. What if Plato was an oligarch? What's more relevant is what if someone is both the oligarch and demagogue? That pretty much explains the left.
I've seen in many systems it's hard to tell which side is which. If the demagogue or whatever is trying to remove you then you will in turn try to remove them.
Absolutely, that's why it has been such a necessity of the media etc to paint Trump as evil. Not simply a politician they disagree with or someone with different views, but an actual evil person who does evil things for the enjoyment of them.
"The cruelty is the point" was a big rallying cry of the left to describe policies they didn't agree with.
Display Trump is evil allows them to ignore the voter fraud they would otherwise consider wrong. It can be viewed as a necessary evil because they have been conditioned to think of Trump as WORSE than voter fraud.
The question we need to be asking liberals to make them confront voter fraud is, "Which do you think is worse: Trump or Voter Fraud?"
I wouldn't say that Plato was an oligarch in any sense but he was part of the aristocracy. But in the theory it's not the actual oligarch that is necessarily the problem, or even real. It is the demagogue creating fear of an oligarchy that's the leads people to choose tyranny. If in fact an oligarchy does exist it's almost a guarantee that they will be the producer of the demagogue. While I want really say that we have an oligarchy in the United States it is certainly evident that the left is the party of wealth and the party that uses that wealth to influence them towards fear of being oppressed by the equivalent of an oligarchy.
Liberals believe Trump and his supporters are evil, that minorities are living in fear of Trump (some are), and that Democrats will save them.
It's a dumb belief obviously, as the Democrats spent several BILLION dollars more than Republicans not including all the other money they spread out through sham foundations to build the voter fraud network.
The problem I find is that the left believe that Plato was a prophet and that quote is about Trump. Plato mentioned one thing that can go wrong but many things can go wrong. You can flip a bunch of variables in that statement to be true or false. People need to be very careful when drawing parallels with things that seem similar but are not the same.
Democracy has a lot of vulnerabilities and it really does take an effort to sustain. It's the same as capitalism. There's no magic system that's perfect and you need an effort around it to maintain it.
Off the top of my mind key problems with democracy are...
It only determines what people are most willing to go along with rather than what is best. People can get it catastrophically wrong. On many issues it's only the few who know best.
If there's ever anything you can split people on other than what they're actually split on when voting you can use that to sway them.
Pay to win is another obvious problem.
Perhaps the biggest problem is that the reward for winning the game is being able to decide the rules of the game.
The democrats systematically game the system anyway they can get away with. Importing voters is the big one and this is why the immigration issue becomes increasingly existential for them.
For me it's not even the spending differential. Democrats could so easily win big just turning around on their extreme positions.
Things like their anti-white crusade is doing is making sure a lot of people will never vote for them. You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I can't believe that their extremist identity politics does them any good.
The kind of things they are doing are the kind of things I would do if I was trying to get voted out and throw the election. It's actually harder to be stupid in this case than it is to be smart.
The more they do it, be this two faced the worse they make it for themselves. For example, now they have demonised Trump so much they're really going to struggle to turn around and be reasonable when it comes to things like immigration policy.
They're acting as if they don't really care about losing votes. I don't want anything unusual or unreasonable. When the left are demanding the unreasonable and unusual that's just throwing votes down the drain.
All this time, they could have a really good chance with nothing more than just sticking to basic common sense. Just not going out of their way to be obnoxious, incompetent and extreme would earn them billions and billions worth of public support.
The way they're losing public support now you don't ever come back from. There's a point where it becomes unforgivable. You go on an anti-white crusade and you end up losing white votes forever. Whose votes do they lose forever if they don't go on an anti-white crusade? This is basic stuff.
I'm relatively middle of the road or undecided normally, in the middle, a swinger. From that perspective them swinging far left makes no sense to me at all. They've completely tossed the middle out from my perspective. If it weren't that they have burnt all their bridges it really would take anything remarkable for them to be on the table. It's not just missing very easy wins but they are taking positions that are simply irredeemable yet very easy to avoid.
That on the face of it tells you there's something very wrong here.
They do already believe Trump is worse than voter fraud, that's a given. I came to that conclusion months ago. The example I give is that they truly believe Trump is as bad as Hitler. If you believed that then you're not going to give a shit about preserving the sanctity of democracy. That rhetoric was anti-democratic from the start. It points to the one democratic result you shouldn't accept and then says this is the same. Liberals are dumb and don't realise they've been drafted into a war on democracy for years and years now.
Why you shouldn't accept democracy... Hitler was elected, yada yada yada.
There is a supposed quote from a survivor of a concentration camp after WW2.
He was asked by a reporter what life lesson he learnt having lived and survived the concentration camp and the war.
He replied, "When your enemies tell you that they want you dead, believe them. Don't laugh them off and ignore them"
I prefer treating enemies with Stone Cold Steve Austin's motto: Do unto them BEFORE they do unto you.
The idea of taking children from parents because of political beliefs is revolting to you/us. It isn't to them, in fact I believe it would make them happy and satisfied.
You can't fix them, they simply can't have power over others. That is the dilemma we face right now.
Meanwhile these people want to give their children hormone blockers at 8 years old. What a shitshow.
It's been blatantly obvious to me that they want to criminalise their opposition for I think around 8 years now. They've been doing it to us online and escalating it so it's not hard to see. When I read their own literature it become even more obvious.
Ex KGB Yuri said communism would come w/ what is essentially mind control. MSM rails on these useful idiots all day. There is no unification with people that are, basically perfectly defined, as nazis. People that want Trump supports in camps ARE LITERALLY NAZIS. Socialists that want full control and to destroy all dissent.
They dont value constitutional rights at all anymore, and they can't see that they are the evil ones. They are so fully converted and blinded w/ hate. Its how so many atrocities have happened in history. The useful idiots get brainwashed into blind hate. They picked their tribe and they can never change from it.
This is why we need to lock up the states that want to secede Right Now. If we Dont just Declare Done Deal... "Seceded" TOMORROW it won't happen & we will be Again over run Leaving us with no Options, No Protection & No ground. Forget the paperwork that says we cant do it because they Do NOT Honor the Constitution or Any Rules. This is Not a problem that is going to go away but get exponentially Worse.. We Need to seceed NOW, Maybe & ONLY MAYBE could we get the help from the military while he is still in office... even that is iffy.if it doesn't happen now it won't & we are fucked.
Yes bro. We should just give them free helicopter rides right onto the tree of liberty. That was our plan for months after all
Just be careful. History has shown that people will be betrayed by their friends family. A trigger is switched in the liberal brain by TDS and all evil acts are justified as virtuous.
Human nature is quite cruel and vindictive by default. Society keeps it in check for the most part, but give people enough power or even power just theoretically bestowed upon them, it doesn't take long to get dark
I have brothers older all ex military 1 of which is not full libtard but just enough for me not have spoken to him 4 6yrs sometimes it's best I love him to bits I send him crimbo cards bday cards and he vice versa would litteraly die 4 him but we both no as adults to keep at arms length gun cotton and sunlight don't mix pede just a fact of life brother pede 👍👍
You should have concluded that conversation with, "OK tell me where do I pick up my Star of David and get my arm tatted with numbers?"
Hey, these people probably don’t know enough about history to understand