This is what the doomers don't seem to get. The orientation seems to be that because Trump exposed the fact that there is rampant fraud, that means we can never win again?
Fuck that.
We need to develop a strategy to retake the country and quit with this insistence that because one path is not viable (turning out in massive numbers to vote out the swamp) that means there's NO viable approach.
People call me a doomer or a glowie shill cause I'm pretty (realistically) down on Trump's chances at securing a second term in a week, but that doesn't mean we should throw in the towel and let the commies march us off to the camps.
Ok go do 1776 then and stfu. Either ye go balls out or you fix the system. Whining on td and taking no action serves no purpose whatsoever.
Its like a married dude walking in on his wife getting pegged. Either find a new wife or fix the marriage. These doomers legit sitting around watching their wife get porked and just crying about it.
Who do you think would go for that? You lobby your corrupt state government to go for these things when they are benefitting from it already. Of course they won't go for it. Lobbying, calls, etc. doesn't work when you're dealing with the government mafia.
If you look at the numbers, the presidential election was stolen in just a handful of democrat controlled cities like Atlanta, Philly and Detroit. They would have a hard time rigging the election in every rural precinct in every state in the U.S. We might have a hard time winning presidential elections, but we can still vote these fuckers out of office.
Take over the city voting systems. Hide from the State officers for several elections until you cook up a new plan:
Use the city votes to take over Statewide offices, specifically secretary of state and Governor.
Defraud the election using the city "votes", use your new toys in statewide office to cover up the fraud and obfuscate any investigation into such. We are here in Georgia
Repeat #3 for all statewide offices
Grind down the incumbent Republicans in the state legislatures over the next few decades as the city's population arrogates more and more legislative seats to itself
Take over State politics completely. E.g., Virginia just got here as of 2019 elections.
But that's why they want to get rid of the EC and they're trying. They just submitted an amendment to ban the EC. All they need to do then is run up totals in those cities.
AND Bulk Adjudication on digital machines must be stopped... that’s basically Democrats operatives in government switching votes in the machines with no audit trails... we gotta get into the machines...spyware
It's not about "The System." It's about which part.
There are 3000 counties in this country...3000 individual voting systems that operate under 50 different sets of state laws. About a dozen of those were subject to targeted fraud to throw a presidential election. Presidential elections operate under an electorial college system which makes this possible. All other elections do not. It's the results of those elections that, ultimately, made the fraud possible. It's the results of those elections that made preventing and rectifying it post-election impossible. We need MAGA candidates in those seats as well as congress.
This is entirely fixable. If you think it's going to be easy, you're going to have a bad time. If you think or ever thought that just electing a president is or was going to fix it, you're going to have the bad time we are all having now. But it is fixable. We just have to stop whining about it and get to work. Anyone who makes the excuse "the system doesn't work" for not participating and thinks that means anything real is the zombie.
Well, ya know, WE are useless to them when it comes to laundering money for them, or returning their generosity in some creepy, illicit way.
Yes, that $600 "gesture" was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Pure disgust and rage for ALL those people, to an extent I'd never have thought possible.
Yeah these people have incredibly short attention spans and are incredibly gullible remember that Lindsey Graham started off Trump's administration promising to impeach the dude.. then in 2018 when he wanted to get reelected he just said a few nice things about Trump and a few bad things about Mueller and they all forgot and voted for him en Mass..
They could literally successfully impeach Donald Trump and then just say a few nice things or a few harsh statements about the Democrats and the idiots would vote for them..
if you really want to stop them you going to have to use the Democrat tactic of donating money to their opponents
They've also forgotten all of the senators who deserted Trump and did not object to
the electors votes who were all supposed to be voted out next time they run for re-election.
We need to have somewhere truly hurts.. most of them don't care about being reelected but if we can hit them financially that might do something
we need to investigate all of their finances and try to hit them in the finances find anything you can use to try to get companies and donors to cut ties with them..
Maybe they made a problematic tweet 100 years ago.. anything you can do to get them canceled and to get their donors to back out..
All good suggestions imho. Just basically convey "we will pursue and persecute you in every legal way possible; we are elephants, we don't forget and you'll never be comfy again."
Plus not all of them are necessarily even intelligent LOL, nor do all of them have intimate, extensive knowledge of various fraudulent voting methods. They may assume they still need to get a reasonable majority of the votes to win, and that might even be true in some areas. And along with the fact that (I'd say) most of them are pretty stupid and venal, it wouldn't hurt to try and put the fear of God in them.
"this is all very new, no one knows where its going..." That's why we're informing you here. Pass the word! Don't let idiots spread FALSE hope in a Chinese-controlled government!
So are you suggesting to never even try to hope for an AMerIcaN first candidate again?
Don’t even bother?
Are you saying we aren’t worse off by being surrounded in Congress by radical communist leftists? Literally every single race between a conservative and leftist is rigged?
If you have a far leftist commie racist running for mayor in your city vs a seemingly stand up, average but good valued conservative-Maga .... you’re just going to not vote at all?
IT'S TOO FUCKING LATE, DUMB-DUMB!!! What part of OPENLY-RIGGED don't you fucking get!? You WILL NOT win ANY *ANY fucking election these Chinacrats in BOTH PARTIES DO NOT want you to win!!! GET THE FUCK UP TO SPEED, FOR FUCK'S SAKE! Your political option is OVER. IT'S BURNED!! Produce a WORKING SOLUTION, or shut the fuck up!
I'm not defeated at all. The local level is where our efforts must be. We all have to be Trump in our own city councils, school boards and any other local function.
Constable, council member, police officer, judge, lawyer, caseworker, teacher and thing else really. Start going to all City council meetings and speak the truth. Good or bad, people will remember you. Thats how influence starts. We can't sit back anymore and let other people do it for us. It us that must do these things. It's the only way to change a culture. Can't do it with one person or one position. Get a job at city hall as an assistant, just to get in the door. There are many things we should have been doing decades ago.
"local offices your average Joe like you or me could run for" kek Yea! You can be the next MIKE PENCE, super-star!!! It's all you! You can do it! 'Reach for the stars', faggot! Just cuck your faggot ass to your Chinacrat buddies and you can be just like Nancy someday! 😅 😂 🤣
the fix is a maximum pressure campaign on the state legislatures who run the elections. We are wasting the power of this platform by skulking around and dooming. Everyday that we don't organize at the state level to fix our election system is a wasted day. This is the most important thing we can do right now. And even saying this I am going to get a million replies from what i can only assume are morons or secret democrats saying how it's no use and that nothing can be done.
Guess what? I hate to break it to you guys but we didn't meme Trump into office. A lot of hard work on the ground made that happen. Nothing happens in the country without work - and it is going to take actual work. We have a year to do this before 2022. 1 year. Let's roll.
to be fair - this community has pretty much just been overflow crowd for trump rallies and the after party - there has been no real organizing other than stickying trump tweets with dates and times. The closest thing we saw was people all working together to try to analyze voting data - we need that level of energy in a maximum pressure campaign targeted at state legislatures. We need lists of names and numbers, we should have sidebar links to comment threads dedicated to each state. For example, PA should have its own thread with names and contact and we should have state captains, basically a group of mods dedicated to each state that can help coordinate for each state. This site is a huge resource to mobilize democracy. Maybe I am just a little ahead because I mentally accepted Trump's loss already and have grieved and am now ready to organize and be the change.
That's my point, they've told us our votes are useless, they'll do whatever they want, we probably need to do something about that instead of accepting it, and like you said, something that works
Don't listen to any fool who tells you the solution will be through elections, or even JUDICIAL APPEALS about elections. Anyone telling you that is either a shill or a negligent fool who failed to take in any of what just happened since November 4th. It's not just the election that's rigged for these Chinese-owned aristocrats: every government mechanism is now rigged with overwhelming evidence. If the boss hasn't truly set up a military response before January 20th, or a secession at the very least, the government you knew is over.
We're never gonna win any election again. Idk why people keep saying we're going to vote them out. Have you forgotten what they've done?
Who gives a shit about elections? They were a fraud. What a hollow threat
Yes,
we all know they can program the election voting machines from now to forever...
The voting system is effectively DEAD ON ARRIVAL.
Do ALL states use voting machines? Furthermore, can we not lobby state governments to employ voter ID, paper ballots and hand counting only?
Do NOT assume you cannot change anything, that is how the elites will win for sure.
This is what the doomers don't seem to get. The orientation seems to be that because Trump exposed the fact that there is rampant fraud, that means we can never win again?
Fuck that.
We need to develop a strategy to retake the country and quit with this insistence that because one path is not viable (turning out in massive numbers to vote out the swamp) that means there's NO viable approach.
People call me a doomer or a glowie shill cause I'm pretty (realistically) down on Trump's chances at securing a second term in a week, but that doesn't mean we should throw in the towel and let the commies march us off to the camps.
NC voters voted for voter id. Then the state Supreme Court said no.
Also Governor Cooper (D) was “re-elected” when our state voted for R President, lieutenant governor and Senate. Can’t imagine why they don’t want id.
Yep the doomers fucking giving it away.
Ok go do 1776 then and stfu. Either ye go balls out or you fix the system. Whining on td and taking no action serves no purpose whatsoever.
Its like a married dude walking in on his wife getting pegged. Either find a new wife or fix the marriage. These doomers legit sitting around watching their wife get porked and just crying about it.
Who do you think would go for that? You lobby your corrupt state government to go for these things when they are benefitting from it already. Of course they won't go for it. Lobbying, calls, etc. doesn't work when you're dealing with the government mafia.
If you look at the numbers, the presidential election was stolen in just a handful of democrat controlled cities like Atlanta, Philly and Detroit. They would have a hard time rigging the election in every rural precinct in every state in the U.S. We might have a hard time winning presidential elections, but we can still vote these fuckers out of office.
Here's the steps:
But that's why they want to get rid of the EC and they're trying. They just submitted an amendment to ban the EC. All they need to do then is run up totals in those cities.
Ohio and Florida didn’t seem to have those issues and have always been must-win states. I wonder why they didn’t rig OH and FL.
Yeah hello, enjoy having 40 million illegals made legal and having millions of anti-americans imported. You'll definitely win next time.
What a fucking joke
We got 400 lb hackers, just sayin'
Cope
If they can program them, we can hack them. We need to hack the election to make sure it's run properly.
AND Bulk Adjudication on digital machines must be stopped... that’s basically Democrats operatives in government switching votes in the machines with no audit trails... we gotta get into the machines...spyware
Most of these people don't care about winning elections.. they cashed out
Dumbest shit I'm seeing here these people think the system fucking works like God damn zombies. They're ZOMBIES
It's not about "The System." It's about which part.
There are 3000 counties in this country...3000 individual voting systems that operate under 50 different sets of state laws. About a dozen of those were subject to targeted fraud to throw a presidential election. Presidential elections operate under an electorial college system which makes this possible. All other elections do not. It's the results of those elections that, ultimately, made the fraud possible. It's the results of those elections that made preventing and rectifying it post-election impossible. We need MAGA candidates in those seats as well as congress.
This is entirely fixable. If you think it's going to be easy, you're going to have a bad time. If you think or ever thought that just electing a president is or was going to fix it, you're going to have the bad time we are all having now. But it is fixable. We just have to stop whining about it and get to work. Anyone who makes the excuse "the system doesn't work" for not participating and thinks that means anything real is the zombie.
What they have proven is nobody gives a shit about fraud. Who is to say 30 million people didn't vote in North Western Nebraska next time.
Wow, that's pretty optimistic! With the short attention spans, I give it to:
A. The minute the next stimulus check hits or,
B. March
Next $600 stimulus check? While they give other countries trillions of dollars?
Republicans will not be getting checks.
You mean their real constituents and benefactors?
Well, ya know, WE are useless to them when it comes to laundering money for them, or returning their generosity in some creepy, illicit way. Yes, that $600 "gesture" was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Pure disgust and rage for ALL those people, to an extent I'd never have thought possible.
Well, since the left will be in charge, it'll probably be 2k, and give trillions more to foreign countries.
Yeah these people have incredibly short attention spans and are incredibly gullible remember that Lindsey Graham started off Trump's administration promising to impeach the dude.. then in 2018 when he wanted to get reelected he just said a few nice things about Trump and a few bad things about Mueller and they all forgot and voted for him en Mass..
They could literally successfully impeach Donald Trump and then just say a few nice things or a few harsh statements about the Democrats and the idiots would vote for them..
if you really want to stop them you going to have to use the Democrat tactic of donating money to their opponents
Winred.com lets u see everyone running
Exactly these people are already acting like it's just another day. They're nation was just stolen by the CCP and the bankers that control it.
They've also forgotten all of the senators who deserted Trump and did not object to the electors votes who were all supposed to be voted out next time they run for re-election.
Now we are just down to these 5, lol.
human stupidity amazes me
We need to have somewhere truly hurts.. most of them don't care about being reelected but if we can hit them financially that might do something
we need to investigate all of their finances and try to hit them in the finances find anything you can use to try to get companies and donors to cut ties with them..
Maybe they made a problematic tweet 100 years ago.. anything you can do to get them canceled and to get their donors to back out..
All good suggestions imho. Just basically convey "we will pursue and persecute you in every legal way possible; we are elephants, we don't forget and you'll never be comfy again." Plus not all of them are necessarily even intelligent LOL, nor do all of them have intimate, extensive knowledge of various fraudulent voting methods. They may assume they still need to get a reasonable majority of the votes to win, and that might even be true in some areas. And along with the fact that (I'd say) most of them are pretty stupid and venal, it wouldn't hurt to try and put the fear of God in them.
There's only one place it can go. All roads lead to this single outcome.
gonna be hard to fight when we're in "re-education" camps
They've taken the ability to organise away and the confiscation will be done in small stages so that one day you'll realise they hold all the cards.
"this is all very new, no one knows where its going..." That's why we're informing you here. Pass the word! Don't let idiots spread FALSE hope in a Chinese-controlled government!
So are you suggesting to never even try to hope for an AMerIcaN first candidate again?
Don’t even bother?
Are you saying we aren’t worse off by being surrounded in Congress by radical communist leftists? Literally every single race between a conservative and leftist is rigged?
If you have a far leftist commie racist running for mayor in your city vs a seemingly stand up, average but good valued conservative-Maga .... you’re just going to not vote at all?
IT'S TOO FUCKING LATE, DUMB-DUMB!!! What part of OPENLY-RIGGED don't you fucking get!? You WILL NOT win ANY *ANY fucking election these Chinacrats in BOTH PARTIES DO NOT want you to win!!! GET THE FUCK UP TO SPEED, FOR FUCK'S SAKE! Your political option is OVER. IT'S BURNED!! Produce a WORKING SOLUTION, or shut the fuck up!
We should probably fix the issue instead of be defeated and just accept our fate, just saying
I'm not defeated at all. The local level is where our efforts must be. We all have to be Trump in our own city councils, school boards and any other local function.
thisis the way
What are some examples of local offices your average Joe like you or me could run for and feasibly be successful?
Constable, council member, police officer, judge, lawyer, caseworker, teacher and thing else really. Start going to all City council meetings and speak the truth. Good or bad, people will remember you. Thats how influence starts. We can't sit back anymore and let other people do it for us. It us that must do these things. It's the only way to change a culture. Can't do it with one person or one position. Get a job at city hall as an assistant, just to get in the door. There are many things we should have been doing decades ago.
"local offices your average Joe like you or me could run for" kek Yea! You can be the next MIKE PENCE, super-star!!! It's all you! You can do it! 'Reach for the stars', faggot! Just cuck your faggot ass to your Chinacrat buddies and you can be just like Nancy someday! 😅 😂 🤣
the fix is a maximum pressure campaign on the state legislatures who run the elections. We are wasting the power of this platform by skulking around and dooming. Everyday that we don't organize at the state level to fix our election system is a wasted day. This is the most important thing we can do right now. And even saying this I am going to get a million replies from what i can only assume are morons or secret democrats saying how it's no use and that nothing can be done.
Guess what? I hate to break it to you guys but we didn't meme Trump into office. A lot of hard work on the ground made that happen. Nothing happens in the country without work - and it is going to take actual work. We have a year to do this before 2022. 1 year. Let's roll.
to be fair - this community has pretty much just been overflow crowd for trump rallies and the after party - there has been no real organizing other than stickying trump tweets with dates and times. The closest thing we saw was people all working together to try to analyze voting data - we need that level of energy in a maximum pressure campaign targeted at state legislatures. We need lists of names and numbers, we should have sidebar links to comment threads dedicated to each state. For example, PA should have its own thread with names and contact and we should have state captains, basically a group of mods dedicated to each state that can help coordinate for each state. This site is a huge resource to mobilize democracy. Maybe I am just a little ahead because I mentally accepted Trump's loss already and have grieved and am now ready to organize and be the change.
This is the way. Whoever down voted is the real doomer shill.
"We should probably fix the issue instead of be defeated..." Also, driving your car harder won't repair its bad seals. Do something THAT WORKS.
That's my point, they've told us our votes are useless, they'll do whatever they want, we probably need to do something about that instead of accepting it, and like you said, something that works
Don't listen to any fool who tells you the solution will be through elections, or even JUDICIAL APPEALS about elections. Anyone telling you that is either a shill or a negligent fool who failed to take in any of what just happened since November 4th. It's not just the election that's rigged for these Chinese-owned aristocrats: every government mechanism is now rigged with overwhelming evidence. If the boss hasn't truly set up a military response before January 20th, or a secession at the very least, the government you knew is over.
YES!