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I’m sure they will be arrested. Just like all the other arrests we’ve seen for the crimes committed this election cycle. Oh wait, we’re the only ones getting arrested.
Subpoenas are judicial powers, lawful subpoenas require judicial powers aka a judge. This is why when congress or a State Legislature (or any executive branch person/agency) "supoenas" someone, it's really a "please do this or please come here" letter. And if the person ignores the subpoena, then that legislature(or congress) has to go to court (aka a judge) to actually issue the REAL subpoena.
Same goes for "perjury" this is a judicial branch function/power. It's not legally possible for the legislative or executive branches to say "under the penalty of perjury". Perjury requires a lawful court, a judge, a matter at hand, material facts, intent, and as written into the very creation of the word & definition per jury.
Understanding these very foundational legal aspects of American/British law is of paramount importance; and how the (marxist & corrupt & other) evil doers erode our very US Constitution and Rule of Law. eg "It depends on what the definition of IS is."
No offense, but I’m not convinced. On one hand, I believe you have a good explanation for the weight of a judicially issued subpoena.
On the other hand, a lot of ppl have been possibly mislead to believe that the legislature does not have this kind of power. Decades of stripping the state legislature’s power and giving it to the governor have given the impression that the legislature has a much more limited role than it actually has, and AZ is one example of the awakening to that notion.
This needs to be where we focus our energy though. Local DA races, local magistrate races, States AG races. We need to get Patriots into these positions to keep the Marxist Federal Government in check. D.C. has fallen
That is why the Military will be the ones to do the arrests and then Tribunals, National Guard Unit of D.C. only takes orders from the POTUS and there is 15000 of them in D.C. now plenty for the arrests and tribunals. People just need a bit more patience.
The effort to DE-CERTIFY the electoral college vote in every swing state should continue! It has no legal impact now but it should be done to make official the illegitimacy of the new administration.
I think you have mistaken Arizona, a Constitutional Carry state, with California, Washington State, Washington DC, New York and other states (anti-2A) that protect antifa/BLM.
Most likely they will not be arrested, avoid the situation for a little while longer, and then finally Biden will move quickly to pardon anyone involved in his cheating and tie up any loose ends.
Hoping Trump calls for martial law, but in the rather likely event he doesn't, we need to be prepared to take these offices and stop future cheating.
And we should have occupied capitol too, in November. We were all too busy for the "signal" when we should have started a 2 week long occupy DC to show them our numbers.
Well. There’s 15 thousand now.... soooooooooo. Yeah I’d say our 1-2 MILLION will easily overpower any deep state attempt to block the AMERICAN PEOPLE from THEIR House
The difference: we respect laws, the left doesn't.
The left picks the ones they want to follow, picks the ones they want YOU to follow, and ignores the ones they don't like.
How do they get away with it? Well, when one of ours breaks the law, they get arrested and we support the police doing the arresting. When one of them breaks the law, they don't. They riot. They make it difficult. They lie and smear the police. They doxx them. They attack their family. Each time it happens, the police give up a little bit more. It's too much effort to impose law on them. It's no effort at all to impose law on us.
The solution is not for us to be like them. It's for new laws and powerful enforcement that prevents the bullshit that they get away with. But there's no will to do it.
Well it is a strongly worded letter, there is that.
But seriously, as one who watched all the hearings around the nation so I could see and hear the evidence for myself, I am glad to see AZ pressing forward.
And before I get accosted with "IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE IT'S TOO LATE" well, theft should be investigated regardless of timing.
"But the machines have been wiped and the ballots shredded already. "
"You were supposed to keep all those records for X months!"
"We're sorry...."
"Oh, OK.. You're free to go. Have a nice day!"
Roller coaster down moments? It's been one long elevator to hell with the cable snapped.
The only bright spot seems to be the mass pushback against big tech.
That said, there is a route forward, but I'm not expecting any superheroes. I'm, if anything, expecting more false flags if what I'm hearing about DC is true.
I welcome an optimist on this site. It's filled with doomers since people fully realized Biden actually got rigged in, which the dooming will eventually dwindle with time of course as people start to realize what's actually going on and that is really isn't the "end of the republic" (yet). I understand where the doomers are coming from but let's be honest they are doing nothing except harm to the movement with their doom. Keep on being optimistic and ignore anyone who says its the end. I honestly think most of the people who are saying dont ever vote again and that it is the end are Democrat shills try to get us to never vote again and anyone else is just a useful idiot unknowingly playing the role of a democrat shill because they are so demoralized.
You are so right. How could it be too late? Even is Biden became president for months and fraud was finally recognized I expect him to be removed from office. I agree with you - its never too late.
Feds have no control or say in elections of states. Use their defense against them.
The only thing Biden could do is withhold federal funding from that state, but that would be a literal admission of guilt and primed for a nice lawsuit.
I hope they finally bare their fucking teeth over this and actually do something, but I doubt it. Weak republican support from the states all the way up to congress has gotten us to where we are, and barring any last second surprises, have likely cost us the presidency.
Those words are worth as much as the paper it was written on. I'm a man of action, so no strong-worded letter is going to convince me anything will happen until I see some action dammit!
Evidence will be “discovered,” heard, and reported on after the inauguration. Because it’ll be safe, then. Even if the election was compromised there’s no way to just put Trump back in office.
Biden will acknowledge the fraud but claim no involvement. He’ll then do the “honorable” thing and we’ll have Heels Up Harris and Skeletor.
They would basically have to vote to hold the election again, I believe. Which aint happening no matter how blatant it is. They blatantly ignore reality all the time with no consequences (well, we face the consequences, they don't)
I go to college at the UofA in Tucson. Before the election, Democrats spent a MASSIVE amount of effort trying to get people from out of state to register in Arizona. They set up tables around campus and asked where your from. If you say California, their eyes light up and ask you if you want to vote in a swing state. That's how they won Arizona. By getting people who don't live there to vote.
Every Republican legislature needs to immediately pass legislation that says no vote will be recorded that was not counted in the presence of both parties, and no county will be counted that does not allow full inspection of machines and ballots, or that destroys signatures, ballots or any other material.
Because of the lack of urgency and the fact it's all over and that our president just gave over the keys to Satan and his minions for no reason outside of Optics.
I want this nation to burn so badly that the only thing going to come out of it is Pure Christian American Patriots who know the foundation of this nation and will edify the old constitution and make another one where Texas is the new State capitol and all lefties and left wing evil Sons of bitches are forced out. No more games anymore. Our leadership on all fronts failed us and they make excuses after excuses and now it's Gods turn to use some natural disasters to erases them and then it will be our turn to take it all back.
What break? There is no breaks in war. You know it and I know it ..
Like I said before I PRAY IM WORNG. I don't want him to go down like this but if he does he failed. That's the bottom line he could have made everyone a millionaire for all we care but in the end if he just allows Satanist and communists to take over then your money is meaningless.
.all his accomplishments are meaningless as they can be overturned and changed within days by the new administration.
We are at a civil war level and unlike Lincoln Trump allowed himself to be cheated and he bent over in compliance.
.
Again unless and until January 20th he does something incredible. But I doubt because he openly said Biden administration will be taking over.
Jesus Christ will be coming in the end. He made that clear. He did what he did to save us from our sins. But he confirmed that he will be back again to detsory the wicked.
Trump can never come back from this. He's not Christ and did not save us from the wicked and their evil devices. He made us aware of them and thus cuased them to rush it on us faster. (Yay 🙄)
So now we are aware and he still has power to stop it but won't? Come on. Bush went to war without permission and same with Obama. Trump can arrest these people for treason but he's not because of optics or because somehow in the end he was in on this and was just controlled opposition from the beginning .which if true will be truly very saddening.
Bush is a deep state faggot. They let him go to war.
They will not let President Trump do anything now.
Do you really think that if he called on the military to arrest Congress that the JCS would actually follow his orders?
They'd stall, and in an instant he'd be arrested as a traitor, or some stupid shit.
Directing your frustrations at the man who showed you how to fight is weak.
Four years ago, you had some idea that our institutions were possibly corrupt. Today, you are 100% certain that all of our institutions are 100% corrupt. All because of one man: Donald J. Trump.
I would like to add, since I know they lurk here - THESE ARE THE CUCKS WHO DECIDED TO LOCK DOWN BARS, RESTAURANTS, AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN ARIZONA'S LARGEST COUNTY AND FORCE US TO WEAR MASKS.
They have put thousands of people out of work here while they sit in their cushy offices and get a paycheck.
we need to impeach the whole lot of them, and make them rescind their draconian rules. We live in the freakin desert with sunshine 360 days a year (this year at least!) and not only does sun kill this virus, so does heat.
Literally just means an attorney representing the entire board would show up on their behalf. Much ado about nothing. Subpoenas are just ways to look like you’re doing something without actually doing anything.
Even if this is too late to change the election, i think it should so overwhelming evidence that mail in ballots must be abandoned entirely and voter ID needs to be a thing
What the fuck does it matter? Of course they aren't going to comply. The fucking DOJ is on their side. Even IF they did actually get arrested (they won't) Biden would parson them immediately. Rule of law doesn't apply to leftists. It only applies to the right, and if it doesn't fit the right they will fucking make sure the rule they create will.
I’m sure they will be arrested. Just like all the other arrests we’ve seen for the crimes committed this election cycle. Oh wait, we’re the only ones getting arrested.
Our DoJ is so cucked...
Arizona would need to make the arrests, not the feds. But they'll probably still cuck out.
I wish things were explained to people.
US Constitution, separation of powers = Legislatures legislate. They do not have powers of the judicial branch/judiciary eg subpoenas, perjury, etc.
Not true. This is a case where the legislature has the SOLE authority to issue a subpoena.
Subpoenas are judicial powers, lawful subpoenas require judicial powers aka a judge. This is why when congress or a State Legislature (or any executive branch person/agency) "supoenas" someone, it's really a "please do this or please come here" letter. And if the person ignores the subpoena, then that legislature(or congress) has to go to court (aka a judge) to actually issue the REAL subpoena.
Same goes for "perjury" this is a judicial branch function/power. It's not legally possible for the legislative or executive branches to say "under the penalty of perjury". Perjury requires a lawful court, a judge, a matter at hand, material facts, intent, and as written into the very creation of the word & definition per jury.
Understanding these very foundational legal aspects of American/British law is of paramount importance; and how the (marxist & corrupt & other) evil doers erode our very US Constitution and Rule of Law. eg "It depends on what the definition of IS is."
No offense, but I’m not convinced. On one hand, I believe you have a good explanation for the weight of a judicially issued subpoena.
On the other hand, a lot of ppl have been possibly mislead to believe that the legislature does not have this kind of power. Decades of stripping the state legislature’s power and giving it to the governor have given the impression that the legislature has a much more limited role than it actually has, and AZ is one example of the awakening to that notion.
This needs to be where we focus our energy though. Local DA races, local magistrate races, States AG races. We need to get Patriots into these positions to keep the Marxist Federal Government in check. D.C. has fallen
See! We needed Sheriff Joe to stay around!!!
That would have been a good episode on his old show
It's not cucked. It's corrupt.
“It’s the same picture”
They're not cowards, they're communists.
Nevermind... one and the same.
That is why the Military will be the ones to do the arrests and then Tribunals, National Guard Unit of D.C. only takes orders from the POTUS and there is 15000 of them in D.C. now plenty for the arrests and tribunals. People just need a bit more patience.
https://youtu.be/pJurFxJR4IE
Thx for this pede!! <3 MAGA2021
Evil ftfy
They'll never get arrested or Antifa will burn the whole state
The effort to DE-CERTIFY the electoral college vote in every swing state should continue! It has no legal impact now but it should be done to make official the illegitimacy of the new administration.
DE-CERTIFY NOW!
What will happen if they're not arrested?
The Legislators will have a tick toc dance off with the nurses of a empty covid ward.
😂
B8
antifa will still burn the whole state
I think you have mistaken Arizona, a Constitutional Carry state, with California, Washington State, Washington DC, New York and other states (anti-2A) that protect antifa/BLM.
I feel we lack a certain oneupmanship with antifa
Will be allowed to burn the whole state
Most likely they will not be arrested, avoid the situation for a little while longer, and then finally Biden will move quickly to pardon anyone involved in his cheating and tie up any loose ends.
Hoping Trump calls for martial law, but in the rather likely event he doesn't, we need to be prepared to take these offices and stop future cheating.
I say we take off and nuke the entire State from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
GAME OVER, MAN. GAME OVER.
If sheriff Joe was still there I bet they would be arrested
And shot
Should have done this in November, Arizona
And we should have occupied capitol too, in November. We were all too busy for the "signal" when we should have started a 2 week long occupy DC to show them our numbers.
Yep.
Only 535 of those fucking monkeys in D.C.
They simply don't have the numbers to resist We the People.
Well. There’s 15 thousand now.... soooooooooo. Yeah I’d say our 1-2 MILLION will easily overpower any deep state attempt to block the AMERICAN PEOPLE from THEIR House
"We can't do anything, because the media will call us Nazis!!"
We did. And they shot us and called us domestic terrorist
The difference: we respect laws, the left doesn't.
The left picks the ones they want to follow, picks the ones they want YOU to follow, and ignores the ones they don't like.
How do they get away with it? Well, when one of ours breaks the law, they get arrested and we support the police doing the arresting. When one of them breaks the law, they don't. They riot. They make it difficult. They lie and smear the police. They doxx them. They attack their family. Each time it happens, the police give up a little bit more. It's too much effort to impose law on them. It's no effort at all to impose law on us.
The solution is not for us to be like them. It's for new laws and powerful enforcement that prevents the bullshit that they get away with. But there's no will to do it.
Well it is a strongly worded letter, there is that.
But seriously, as one who watched all the hearings around the nation so I could see and hear the evidence for myself, I am glad to see AZ pressing forward.
And before I get accosted with "IT DOESN'T MATTER ANYMORE IT'S TOO LATE" well, theft should be investigated regardless of timing.
I agree, but will they ask the questions that really matter? My idea of the hearing.
Hi Thank you for coming. You are dismissed to resume your regular election fraud activities.
I think what is more important is
"You or your repetitive must also produce, and permit inspection, testing or sampling of the ITEMS set forth in Exhibit A..."
Machines and ballots baby!
I think the state legislators, AZ in particular, got woken up and are actually going to do their jobs now. But I am an optimist, so...
"But the machines have been wiped and the ballots shredded already. " "You were supposed to keep all those records for X months!" "We're sorry...." "Oh, OK.. You're free to go. Have a nice day!"
Usually I am an optimist, but lately feel very pessimistic.
Please God help us! We need you to show your hand in this. Don't forget your people.
Aww Fren, I have roller coaster down moments too. Take a break when you need it.
Roller coaster down moments? It's been one long elevator to hell with the cable snapped.
The only bright spot seems to be the mass pushback against big tech.
That said, there is a route forward, but I'm not expecting any superheroes. I'm, if anything, expecting more false flags if what I'm hearing about DC is true.
I welcome an optimist on this site. It's filled with doomers since people fully realized Biden actually got rigged in, which the dooming will eventually dwindle with time of course as people start to realize what's actually going on and that is really isn't the "end of the republic" (yet). I understand where the doomers are coming from but let's be honest they are doing nothing except harm to the movement with their doom. Keep on being optimistic and ignore anyone who says its the end. I honestly think most of the people who are saying dont ever vote again and that it is the end are Democrat shills try to get us to never vote again and anyone else is just a useful idiot unknowingly playing the role of a democrat shill because they are so demoralized.
Yeah, the dooming is deep today. But I have a bag of Bugles next to me. Doom won't come near when I have delicious crispy corn snacks!
You are so right. How could it be too late? Even is Biden became president for months and fraud was finally recognized I expect him to be removed from office. I agree with you - its never too late.
It's only too late if people give in.
Thanks! Yep, I want accountability. Doesn't mean I'll get it, but I don't give up easy.
State legislatures still have the ability to clean up their states's elections. This is immensely important in its own right.
^ Totally gets it
You're only being accosted by shills and fair-weather dumbasses.
I AM THE FROG. THE BIG BAD FROG 🎶
I find you absolutely Ribbetting
This is one of our last best hopes. If they can prove some of the ballots are counterfeit then we will finally have evidence that can’t be dEbOoNKed.
GA has a hearing on Friday to get access to the Fulton co ballots.
And this is our path to election reform and meaningful elections.
pretty sure their plan is drag their feet until bidens in. then no one can ever stop them again!
Feds have no control or say in elections of states. Use their defense against them.
The only thing Biden could do is withhold federal funding from that state, but that would be a literal admission of guilt and primed for a nice lawsuit.
What is the Exhibit A that they are commanded to show and who are the ones who must appear?
I'm missing context.
https://www.azleg.gov/press/house/54LEG/2R/201204JOINTSTATEMENTELECTIONAUDIT.pdf
https://yourvalley.net/stories/giuliani-wants-to-examine-arizona-voting-machines,206607
This I guess.
Hope they audit it. Better late than never.
Where was this two months go?
I hope they finally bare their fucking teeth over this and actually do something, but I doubt it. Weak republican support from the states all the way up to congress has gotten us to where we are, and barring any last second surprises, have likely cost us the presidency.
Those words are worth as much as the paper it was written on. I'm a man of action, so no strong-worded letter is going to convince me anything will happen until I see some action dammit!
This is the shit we need to stay focused on
A lifetime supply of Twinkie’s?
What
ur mum's dildo collection?
Here’s where I am.
Evidence will be “discovered,” heard, and reported on after the inauguration. Because it’ll be safe, then. Even if the election was compromised there’s no way to just put Trump back in office.
Biden will acknowledge the fraud but claim no involvement. He’ll then do the “honorable” thing and we’ll have Heels Up Harris and Skeletor.
It's not true that there's nothing that can be done. It's just that it will be monumentally difficult (impeachment or SCOTUS rulings or both).
They would basically have to vote to hold the election again, I believe. Which aint happening no matter how blatant it is. They blatantly ignore reality all the time with no consequences (well, we face the consequences, they don't)
They will blame the fraud on the Electoral College system and pass the amendment to abolish it. Problem solved, normies can go back to sleep.
Is this streamed anywhere?
Why! Have they not been arrested already?
Maybe I dunno, send them a strongly worded letter when they fail to appear?
Legislators should start putting that in their requests:
“Failure to allay voters fears through resistance to transparency, undermining voter confidence, can incite riotous behavior.”
Something like that.
I go to college at the UofA in Tucson. Before the election, Democrats spent a MASSIVE amount of effort trying to get people from out of state to register in Arizona. They set up tables around campus and asked where your from. If you say California, their eyes light up and ask you if you want to vote in a swing state. That's how they won Arizona. By getting people who don't live there to vote.
Where is Sheriff Joe when you need him? Would love to see these clowns in pink uniforms
Who will do it? So much intimidation.
Every Republican legislature needs to immediately pass legislation that says no vote will be recorded that was not counted in the presence of both parties, and no county will be counted that does not allow full inspection of machines and ballots, or that destroys signatures, ballots or any other material.
Because of the lack of urgency and the fact it's all over and that our president just gave over the keys to Satan and his minions for no reason outside of Optics.
I want this nation to burn so badly that the only thing going to come out of it is Pure Christian American Patriots who know the foundation of this nation and will edify the old constitution and make another one where Texas is the new State capitol and all lefties and left wing evil Sons of bitches are forced out. No more games anymore. Our leadership on all fronts failed us and they make excuses after excuses and now it's Gods turn to use some natural disasters to erases them and then it will be our turn to take it all back.
President Trump isn't a dumbass. He knows this battle is over for now.
And to cast doubt over his decision is disingenuous and unproductive.
The man has fought for us like a madman for the past four years. How about giving him a break, Jesus.
What break? There is no breaks in war. You know it and I know it .. Like I said before I PRAY IM WORNG. I don't want him to go down like this but if he does he failed. That's the bottom line he could have made everyone a millionaire for all we care but in the end if he just allows Satanist and communists to take over then your money is meaningless.
.all his accomplishments are meaningless as they can be overturned and changed within days by the new administration.
We are at a civil war level and unlike Lincoln Trump allowed himself to be cheated and he bent over in compliance.
. Again unless and until January 20th he does something incredible. But I doubt because he openly said Biden administration will be taking over.
Just how is exposing all of the deep state lies and deception a failure?
By your line of reasoning, Jesus Christ is a failure for not removing Satan from our lives.
After all, it has been over 2000 years... I mean, wtf?
That's him just plain being lazy at this point.
Jesus Christ will be coming in the end. He made that clear. He did what he did to save us from our sins. But he confirmed that he will be back again to detsory the wicked.
Trump can never come back from this. He's not Christ and did not save us from the wicked and their evil devices. He made us aware of them and thus cuased them to rush it on us faster. (Yay 🙄)
So now we are aware and he still has power to stop it but won't? Come on. Bush went to war without permission and same with Obama. Trump can arrest these people for treason but he's not because of optics or because somehow in the end he was in on this and was just controlled opposition from the beginning .which if true will be truly very saddening.
Bush is a deep state faggot. They let him go to war.
They will not let President Trump do anything now.
Do you really think that if he called on the military to arrest Congress that the JCS would actually follow his orders?
They'd stall, and in an instant he'd be arrested as a traitor, or some stupid shit.
Directing your frustrations at the man who showed you how to fight is weak.
Four years ago, you had some idea that our institutions were possibly corrupt. Today, you are 100% certain that all of our institutions are 100% corrupt. All because of one man: Donald J. Trump.
And your thanks to him is to call him a failure?
Hey...pull your head out and go fuck yourself.
I would like to add, since I know they lurk here - THESE ARE THE CUCKS WHO DECIDED TO LOCK DOWN BARS, RESTAURANTS, AND SMALL BUSINESSES IN ARIZONA'S LARGEST COUNTY AND FORCE US TO WEAR MASKS.
They have put thousands of people out of work here while they sit in their cushy offices and get a paycheck.
we need to impeach the whole lot of them, and make them rescind their draconian rules. We live in the freakin desert with sunshine 360 days a year (this year at least!) and not only does sun kill this virus, so does heat.
Wait so we have a Karen on our side?? She would like to see their manager about this. You know having a Karen has its benefits.
The judge won't rule on it for a week. Tells both sides to,' figure it out and learn how to get along.' (more or less)
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/arizona/articles/2021-01-13/judge-arizona-senate-maricopa-county-need-to-settle-fight
They need to fucking arrest the County Elections Board for refusing to comply with the subpoena. They showed up without the requested items.
Theoretically, the Senate has that power. Yes, they should exercise it and see what happens.
County officials usually have no more security than an average American. Alarm system on the house and that’s about it.
Suicides in coming
Love it
Failing to answer subpoenas is arrestable again? Like with a cloth?
Grr, I voted for one of these—but the alternative was a hijab-wearing Muslim!
So, did they show?
Literally just means an attorney representing the entire board would show up on their behalf. Much ado about nothing. Subpoenas are just ways to look like you’re doing something without actually doing anything.
You must designate... ...who consents.
So if no one consents to testify, then crickets again?
Finally! Let the Based Karen Memes commence.
Expected. pfffft.
Is that date time like 3 hours ago?
Source? I did a reverse photo look and got zero matches
Thanks for sharing! Very useful and timely information. Spreading the information Farcebook now.
Douches Tea Cum, bitches
Should have been arrested already
I can't find this letter anywhere. Where is the source of this
Enforced by whom?
But but ppppplease show up.
Even if this is too late to change the election, i think it should so overwhelming evidence that mail in ballots must be abandoned entirely and voter ID needs to be a thing
kek. any word. on if they complied?
Failure to comply will result in a sternly worded letter
Why did they wait until after Jan 6 to get tough? They gave had the right to enforce subpoena since December,
Exponential level chess at this point?
What the fuck does it matter? Of course they aren't going to comply. The fucking DOJ is on their side. Even IF they did actually get arrested (they won't) Biden would parson them immediately. Rule of law doesn't apply to leftists. It only applies to the right, and if it doesn't fit the right they will fucking make sure the rule they create will.