Mark Levin has a book on this topic also. Just beware, once you get a convention started, there is no going back. You never know what these jackasses will bargain up and come out with, but you can be assured they they will make you regret it.
Exactly. This is being pushed by the left. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A.
This is correct!
For this to really get off the ground they need to solidify 3 ammendments they want, i just dont yet see the consensus that will bring it all together yet. But we are closer than ever
These are proposed by Mark Levin in his book, and are the only group of amendments that have gained any traction:
Impose Congressional term limits
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, returning the election of Senators to state legislatures
Impose term limits for Supreme Court Justices and restrict judicial review
Require a balanced budget and limit federal spending and taxation
Define a deadline to file taxes (one day before the next federal election)
Subject federal departments and bureaucratic regulations to periodic reauthorization and review
Create a more specific definition of the Commerce Clause
Limit eminent domain powers
Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress
Create a process where two-thirds of the states can nullify federal laws
Require photo ID to vote and limit early voting
Edit: I'd also like to see a new amendment that clarifies the 2nd, ending for all the debate on guns, cementing the right for individuals to own any gun and accessory.
Yes and ive taken surveys from CoS pcac... what i am getting at is for branding and marketing. Pick 3 ammendments that most states agree with and push those hard...
I would also like to repeal the 16th
So mine would be
Repeal 16th
Repeal 17th
Election Reform
If the Convention goes beyond the boundaries of its call it voids itself as written. Even then 3 out of 4 states have to vote for any amendments passed. The enemy knows they can steal elections without losing . It is only a matter of time before they control 2/3's of Congress. That means they can pass amendments the old fashioned way rather than the modern way of Judges making it up out of thin air. We literally have nothing left to lose.
No way! This is a tactic used by the left to modify the 2nd Amendment. Pedes, you have to be smarter than this. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A.
This is being pushed by the left. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it.
The leftist group "Common Cause' brags about how it canceled Convention calls in Nevada, Delaware, New Mexico and Maryland . The left is scared to DEATH of Article V.
Yeah, but if we can get an amendment to the constitution with say, term limits, vote security, and the like, not following those laws would be a big ass thing that I don't think even the most brainwashed could ignore.
How about a clean slate amendment from Article V? Something that would fire all the Elected officials and Judges since they have become so corrupt . Maybe toss out at least half the bureaucrats as well! Let THEM finally feel what it is like to become unemployed!
Why does nobody seem to understand that US power and superiority hinges on us being UNITED? Break off and it only benefits China. Let Biden in and it only benefits China. There is and must be a third option. Go with door number three...
Too many leftists who would oppose it. But this would put our 2nd amendment on the table as well. You need some rock fucking solid people to be there to prevent that
The majority of state legislatures are republican. The majority of those members aren't "in-crowd" Republicans. It vastly broadens the amount of elections you have to influence to influence the makeup senate.
Our founding fathers were quite smart with the way they designed our government. We were fools for tampering with it.
Its your local legislator... there is good areguments on both sides... i belive it should be repeled. Its easier to change out bad senators this way. We are a representative republic the more we turn into a democracy the more we destroy ourselves
The Senate right now is not what was originally intended. The Senate was there to protect the interests of the individual states which is why the legislatures picked the Senators. They voted away their power because people were paying too much attention to their Senate choices! That is another good reason to go back to the old way!
Voter ID is a state issue. If you really want voter ID, help candidates who are for it campaign. If you're in a state with fraud, volunteer to become a counter. Politicians are unreliable. Campaigning and volunteering to be a counter or a poll watcher for elections is the way to go.
Vote by mail is rare around the world PRECISELY because it is easy to steal. An amendment which reset election law to where it was in 1960 would go a long ways towards making them fair again.
I’ve been trying to spread this news for a while now. If things with Trump go south, CoS is literally the last arrow in Liberty’s quiver.
I’ll also put it out there that, with God’s help things do work out for Trump, the Article V CoS should still be pursued. Success with CoS would drain much of the accumulated overreaching powers of the government and return them to the States and the People.
Who decides who would go to the convention? Is it us? Do you trust Congress or your state legislature to make that decision for you? Do you trust representatives from liberal states to do what's best for you? Do you think Republicans who are abandoning the president are principled enough to preserve your freedom? No, it's an awful idea, the original Constitution was a result of a similar convention that originally had a different document. The Constitution is federally stronger than the previous document. The same thing would happen with a convention, and we lack the statesmen and brilliance of the founders.
It is the state legislatures that decide and they are much more representative of the people than congress right now. What do you have to lose? The CCP is taking over if you haven't noticed.
Congress will never reform themselves... this is a check and balance... if congress gets too corrupt the staets NEED to check them. This needs to happen
You trust the state legislatures in MI, WI, GA, AZ, and PA to send good reps to CoS? They didn’t even have the balls to correct their own election results
I hear you on many points, it is a daunting prospect and looks iffy in any number of ways. But I’m leaning on two things here:
Thing 1 is at this point what do have to lose by reign? If this shakes out the way the left wants it to (a Democrat house, Senate and presidency with one foot already firmly planted in socialism) - the constitution will be worthless anyway. We see every day how little regard is being given to the original or the newer, “stronger” constitution. How many times in the the past 4 years have we seen constitutional law and citizens’ rights being violated in the most horrific ways by a government that only quotes the constitution when it can be conveniently twisted to fit their narrative? The Flynn fiasco, the Trump witch hunt, the Biden corrruption... between the Dems and the Rinos we’ve almost got no constitution left anymore.
Thing 2 is more positive and hopeful and based upon the great statesmen and founders you mentioned. They were humble and intellectually honest enough to acknowledge that corruption can and will work it’s way into the hearts of men (and women) in charge. They built article V into the constitution as a tool for the People to reset the country in the case of new oppression.
Don’t you see? Those same statesmen and brilliant founders created this failsafe because they trusted future generations to be able to employ it to restore the Constitution. They created it to be employed by the common People who at some future date recognize that corruption and oppression was destroying their nation. The founders knew that such a correction could ONLY come from the common, average American, and they believed in those future common Americans to carry it through enough to give us this failsafe.
So no, we may not have the statesmen and geniuses of the revolution era, but we have a pool of some 80 million Americans (at least) who can see what’s wrong and are willing to fight to change it.
And as for no longer having brilliant founders and statesmen - I think that point can be argued. Our statesmen and brilliant founders today may not look the same, but when you consider men like Donald Trump, Mark Levin, Vernon Jones,Josh Hawley,Matt Geatz, Jim Jordan, Sidney Powell, General Flynn, Elise Stefanik, Lauren Boebert, and great thinkers like Thomas Sowell (who I could see working Independence Hall with the best of the founders) and more...
So, I’ll wrap by saying again: The Dems, the left and the foreign powers have taken or are getting ready to really give away everything that makes this nation so exceptional, so if nothing else - what have we got to lose?
You only need a handful of good men. Part of the beauty is that the Convention is so rare it has never been called. The closer it gets to the necessary 34 sataes the more the debate would ring across America. It would get people thinking about the basic issues again and that can't be a bad thing.
This has been pushed by the left for some time. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it, like they have been for years. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A. They want your guns!
Who decides those who go to the convention? If it's any Republican currently in office we'd see a completely different Constitution. They wouldn't need states to approve if how the document was ratified was changed too.
This is not good right now. We have no allies in Congress and they would salivate at the chance to manipulate this. Those with the biggest purse swings the biggest stick. Congress has trillions of dollars at their disposal to buy whomever they want. I say NO, not now.
Congress FEARS the CoS . They set the rules, but they can’t enforce. Anything, and I mean ANYTHING can come out of a CoS. I can see your point, but what’s the alternative....a broke system where the political elite rule? Term limits for congress...absolutely. Transparent election systems....again...yes please.
The Convention of States as called voids itself if it goes outside the boundaries of the call. The Convention would have been called many times already if you merely had any state for any reason want the call. It has to be 34 states in agreement for the call and why it is called. If that is not enough whatever they come up with has to be ratified by 3/4's of the states afterwards.
I notice nobody is jumping up and down in fear that Congress has the same power with a 2/3's vote. Guess what? now that they have proven they can steal elections without being stopped it's going to get to 2/3's soon enough.
No way! This is a tactic used by the left to modify the 2nd Amendment. Pedes, you have to be smarter than this. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A.
This is being pushed by the left. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it.
I was actually just about to post this same thing. There is a group trying to get this going, has been for awhile.
Maybe we try boosting them?
https://conventionofstates.com/take_action
Mark Levin has a book on this topic also. Just beware, once you get a convention started, there is no going back. You never know what these jackasses will bargain up and come out with, but you can be assured they they will make you regret it.
Secession has the support of 25% of the population now. We have passed the Overton Window. Expect more.
Exactly. This is being pushed by the left. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A.
This is correct! For this to really get off the ground they need to solidify 3 ammendments they want, i just dont yet see the consensus that will bring it all together yet. But we are closer than ever
These are proposed by Mark Levin in his book, and are the only group of amendments that have gained any traction:
Edit: I'd also like to see a new amendment that clarifies the 2nd, ending for all the debate on guns, cementing the right for individuals to own any gun and accessory.
Yes and ive taken surveys from CoS pcac... what i am getting at is for branding and marketing. Pick 3 ammendments that most states agree with and push those hard... I would also like to repeal the 16th
So mine would be Repeal 16th Repeal 17th Election Reform
This reads like pure poetry
If the Convention goes beyond the boundaries of its call it voids itself as written. Even then 3 out of 4 states have to vote for any amendments passed. The enemy knows they can steal elections without losing . It is only a matter of time before they control 2/3's of Congress. That means they can pass amendments the old fashioned way rather than the modern way of Judges making it up out of thin air. We literally have nothing left to lose.
No way! This is a tactic used by the left to modify the 2nd Amendment. Pedes, you have to be smarter than this. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A.
This is being pushed by the left. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it.
The leftist group "Common Cause' brags about how it canceled Convention calls in Nevada, Delaware, New Mexico and Maryland . The left is scared to DEATH of Article V.
We don't need new laws. We need the laws of our republic to be followed BY EVERYONE.
Completely different things.
Yeah, but if we can get an amendment to the constitution with say, term limits, vote security, and the like, not following those laws would be a big ass thing that I don't think even the most brainwashed could ignore.
How about a clean slate amendment from Article V? Something that would fire all the Elected officials and Judges since they have become so corrupt . Maybe toss out at least half the bureaucrats as well! Let THEM finally feel what it is like to become unemployed!
The people are angry. This is our only non-violent recourse right now. We need to strike while the iron is hot!
Why does nobody seem to understand that US power and superiority hinges on us being UNITED? Break off and it only benefits China. Let Biden in and it only benefits China. There is and must be a third option. Go with door number three...
And the goal of the COS is?
Impose Congressional term limits
Repeal the Seventeenth Amendment, returning the election of Senators to state legislatures
Allow states to more easily amend the Constitution by bypassing Congress
Create a process where two-thirds of the states can nullify federal laws
**Require photo ID to vote , limit early voting **
IF we ever get it, everything should be on the table including an amendment that states that life starts at conception.
Too many leftists who would oppose it. But this would put our 2nd amendment on the table as well. You need some rock fucking solid people to be there to prevent that
Exactly! Why not have Donald Trump himself run the Convention? George Washington ran the first one, why not our best to run this one?
Why on earth would we let the legislatures elect Senators? That sounds awful considering today's corrupt government.
The majority of state legislatures are republican. The majority of those members aren't "in-crowd" Republicans. It vastly broadens the amount of elections you have to influence to influence the makeup senate.
Our founding fathers were quite smart with the way they designed our government. We were fools for tampering with it.
Its your local legislator... there is good areguments on both sides... i belive it should be repeled. Its easier to change out bad senators this way. We are a representative republic the more we turn into a democracy the more we destroy ourselves
The Senate right now is not what was originally intended. The Senate was there to protect the interests of the individual states which is why the legislatures picked the Senators. They voted away their power because people were paying too much attention to their Senate choices! That is another good reason to go back to the old way!
It would completely overturn our current Constitution. It's an awful idea because you don't decide who represents you there.
I think you're a new account also.
Voter ID is a state issue. If you really want voter ID, help candidates who are for it campaign. If you're in a state with fraud, volunteer to become a counter. Politicians are unreliable. Campaigning and volunteering to be a counter or a poll watcher for elections is the way to go.
Vote by mail is rare around the world PRECISELY because it is easy to steal. An amendment which reset election law to where it was in 1960 would go a long ways towards making them fair again.
What else does that allow besides those 2 things. How can the politicians abuse this? You know they will abuse it.
Since you are stating your interest in the subject, I recommend reading this book on the topic, written by a true patriot and scholar.
I’ve been trying to spread this news for a while now. If things with Trump go south, CoS is literally the last arrow in Liberty’s quiver.
I’ll also put it out there that, with God’s help things do work out for Trump, the Article V CoS should still be pursued. Success with CoS would drain much of the accumulated overreaching powers of the government and return them to the States and the People.
Who decides who would go to the convention? Is it us? Do you trust Congress or your state legislature to make that decision for you? Do you trust representatives from liberal states to do what's best for you? Do you think Republicans who are abandoning the president are principled enough to preserve your freedom? No, it's an awful idea, the original Constitution was a result of a similar convention that originally had a different document. The Constitution is federally stronger than the previous document. The same thing would happen with a convention, and we lack the statesmen and brilliance of the founders.
It is the state legislatures that decide and they are much more representative of the people than congress right now. What do you have to lose? The CCP is taking over if you haven't noticed.
The state legislatures are no more reliable than Congress.
Congress will never reform themselves... this is a check and balance... if congress gets too corrupt the staets NEED to check them. This needs to happen
You trust the state legislatures in MI, WI, GA, AZ, and PA to send good reps to CoS? They didn’t even have the balls to correct their own election results
Yeah they did get cucked. This would take some balls. I would hope the people would make them grow a pair.
We would definitely have a set list of ammendments so the quality of the reps is not in question... just go up there and vore yes
I hear you on many points, it is a daunting prospect and looks iffy in any number of ways. But I’m leaning on two things here:
Thing 1 is at this point what do have to lose by reign? If this shakes out the way the left wants it to (a Democrat house, Senate and presidency with one foot already firmly planted in socialism) - the constitution will be worthless anyway. We see every day how little regard is being given to the original or the newer, “stronger” constitution. How many times in the the past 4 years have we seen constitutional law and citizens’ rights being violated in the most horrific ways by a government that only quotes the constitution when it can be conveniently twisted to fit their narrative? The Flynn fiasco, the Trump witch hunt, the Biden corrruption... between the Dems and the Rinos we’ve almost got no constitution left anymore.
Thing 2 is more positive and hopeful and based upon the great statesmen and founders you mentioned. They were humble and intellectually honest enough to acknowledge that corruption can and will work it’s way into the hearts of men (and women) in charge. They built article V into the constitution as a tool for the People to reset the country in the case of new oppression.
Don’t you see? Those same statesmen and brilliant founders created this failsafe because they trusted future generations to be able to employ it to restore the Constitution. They created it to be employed by the common People who at some future date recognize that corruption and oppression was destroying their nation. The founders knew that such a correction could ONLY come from the common, average American, and they believed in those future common Americans to carry it through enough to give us this failsafe.
So no, we may not have the statesmen and geniuses of the revolution era, but we have a pool of some 80 million Americans (at least) who can see what’s wrong and are willing to fight to change it.
And as for no longer having brilliant founders and statesmen - I think that point can be argued. Our statesmen and brilliant founders today may not look the same, but when you consider men like Donald Trump, Mark Levin, Vernon Jones,Josh Hawley,Matt Geatz, Jim Jordan, Sidney Powell, General Flynn, Elise Stefanik, Lauren Boebert, and great thinkers like Thomas Sowell (who I could see working Independence Hall with the best of the founders) and more...
So, I’ll wrap by saying again: The Dems, the left and the foreign powers have taken or are getting ready to really give away everything that makes this nation so exceptional, so if nothing else - what have we got to lose?
You only need a handful of good men. Part of the beauty is that the Convention is so rare it has never been called. The closer it gets to the necessary 34 sataes the more the debate would ring across America. It would get people thinking about the basic issues again and that can't be a bad thing.
This has been pushed by the left for some time. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it, like they have been for years. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A. They want your guns!
After how useless the GOP state governments have proven to be, this is precisely the WRONG TIME to open the Constitution up for changes. No thank you!
Yup
What is "Active Legislation"? That they're discussing doing it?
Who decides those who go to the convention? If it's any Republican currently in office we'd see a completely different Constitution. They wouldn't need states to approve if how the document was ratified was changed too.
The State legislature decides.
One stop shop, 30 seconds to sign petition and email your legislators: https://conventionofstates.com/
Convention has the power to overturn the constitution.
Much better to propose and ratify without a convention.
Not overturn but ammend.
Need a Convention of cities in every State.
This is not good right now. We have no allies in Congress and they would salivate at the chance to manipulate this. Those with the biggest purse swings the biggest stick. Congress has trillions of dollars at their disposal to buy whomever they want. I say NO, not now.
Well it's a good thing that article V does not involve the congress.
Congress FEARS the CoS . They set the rules, but they can’t enforce. Anything, and I mean ANYTHING can come out of a CoS. I can see your point, but what’s the alternative....a broke system where the political elite rule? Term limits for congress...absolutely. Transparent election systems....again...yes please.
Couldn't a bunch of bad shit come out of a COS, too? Like repealing the second amendment level bad?
The entire Bill of Rights, or constitutionally mandating "social democracy" or critical race theory.
Is it more dangerous than civil conflict? Thats looking like the options right now if neither side can calm down
The Convention of States as called voids itself if it goes outside the boundaries of the call. The Convention would have been called many times already if you merely had any state for any reason want the call. It has to be 34 states in agreement for the call and why it is called. If that is not enough whatever they come up with has to be ratified by 3/4's of the states afterwards.
I notice nobody is jumping up and down in fear that Congress has the same power with a 2/3's vote. Guess what? now that they have proven they can steal elections without being stopped it's going to get to 2/3's soon enough.
only some, and we need to remove them by any means necessary.
No way! This is a tactic used by the left to modify the 2nd Amendment. Pedes, you have to be smarter than this. Once you call a convention, EVERYTHING is on the table - INCLUDING 2A.
This is being pushed by the left. They're trying to get less knowledgeable conservatives to pick it up & run with it.