That’s not how it works. And the rules aren’t any different. Officers don’t make an oath to the office of the president. We make an oath to the Constitution. In theory if the officer thought the president was going against the constitution they could go against the office of the president. This is intentional, the founding fathers wanted the military to support the constitution not just the current leader of the government. Or else we end up in one of those situations like Rome where the military just followed their generals and the emperor.
I see no justification for the downvotes. You're just stating facts. The part about the military swearing an oath "to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" is, well, in the Constitution FFS. It's the same oath the President takes, except for the military, "against all enemies foreign and domestic" is added.
The military can refuse orders they believe un-Constitutional (as you point out in your later comment). Unfortunately they can also commit treason or sedition under the pretext of defending the Constitution. OR the Marines really could be about to come to the aid of the Constitution that constitutes these United States and rescue our nation from the traitors. I'm praying for that.
It's not a magic document that settles every possible contingency in advance forever. It's one of humanity's greatest political achievements, but it was still made by humans for humans.
It means that Trump has the power hand, not the fascists. Trump has been firing people from the DOD that werent patriots. He has support from 85% of the troops, 99% of combat arms troops and soldiers that have sworn an oath to the constutution that the Dems are violating, not Trump. Its not hopium, its logic and facts. Trump 100% commands SOCOM, our most elite and flexible force.
Listen I’m not trying to be a dick, I want this to be true as much as you do. But once again that’s not what it means. Simply that officers would not be arrested “by the NCO corp“ as you have stated. First off the NCO corps doesn’t have that kind of power it’s not backed up by the UCMJ (The only time and an enlisted individual can arrest an officer is if that officer is in the process of committing a crime or has with due evidence committed a crime (which disobeying a illegal or unconstitutional order in the eyes of the officer is not a crime, the worst thing that officer could face at that moment would be relief of duty/command by their commanding officer). Secondly, there are as many right wing officers in the military as there are left-wing Officers, The same goes for the enlisted force. It turns out the military (as it was intended to be as a cross-section of America). And within the institution of the military there are people are varying thought and beliefs. So some of this will obey the president, and some may not. Also some NCOs may disobey and some may not.
That’s not how it works. And the rules aren’t any different. Officers don’t make an oath to the office of the president. We make an oath to the Constitution. In theory if the officer thought the president was going against the constitution they could go against the office of the president. This is intentional, the founding fathers wanted the military to support the constitution not just the current leader of the government. Or else we end up in one of those situations like Rome where the military just followed their generals and the emperor.
I see no justification for the downvotes. You're just stating facts. The part about the military swearing an oath "to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution" is, well, in the Constitution FFS. It's the same oath the President takes, except for the military, "against all enemies foreign and domestic" is added.
The military can refuse orders they believe un-Constitutional (as you point out in your later comment). Unfortunately they can also commit treason or sedition under the pretext of defending the Constitution. OR the Marines really could be about to come to the aid of the Constitution that constitutes these United States and rescue our nation from the traitors. I'm praying for that.
It's not a magic document that settles every possible contingency in advance forever. It's one of humanity's greatest political achievements, but it was still made by humans for humans.
SO WHEN DEMOCRATS ARE INTENT ON REMOVING THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE, ANY SOLDIER, SAILOR OR AIRMAN MUST SHOOT THEM.
Would our military round up and genocide Americans?
Tell that to Lt. Calley.
I fail to see the point you’re attempting to make with that statement.
It means that Trump has the power hand, not the fascists. Trump has been firing people from the DOD that werent patriots. He has support from 85% of the troops, 99% of combat arms troops and soldiers that have sworn an oath to the constutution that the Dems are violating, not Trump. Its not hopium, its logic and facts. Trump 100% commands SOCOM, our most elite and flexible force.
Listen I’m not trying to be a dick, I want this to be true as much as you do. But once again that’s not what it means. Simply that officers would not be arrested “by the NCO corp“ as you have stated. First off the NCO corps doesn’t have that kind of power it’s not backed up by the UCMJ (The only time and an enlisted individual can arrest an officer is if that officer is in the process of committing a crime or has with due evidence committed a crime (which disobeying a illegal or unconstitutional order in the eyes of the officer is not a crime, the worst thing that officer could face at that moment would be relief of duty/command by their commanding officer). Secondly, there are as many right wing officers in the military as there are left-wing Officers, The same goes for the enlisted force. It turns out the military (as it was intended to be as a cross-section of America). And within the institution of the military there are people are varying thought and beliefs. So some of this will obey the president, and some may not. Also some NCOs may disobey and some may not.