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DrinkLikeAGilmore 34 points ago +45 / -11

Elon is for transhumanism and is building a Tesla plant in China of all places. Why do people still fangirl over him?

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polk_high_4_td 76 points ago +79 / -3

Because he's not a liberal they way they all want him to be. He also doesn't have disdain for conservatives. He questions things, especially the news since they frequently hit him hard. I used to not like him, but have warmed up as he calls out CNN and others. Plus his cars are cool. Stock is insanely overvalued, but the cars are really fun. I think he's ok. He's definitely not in the Bezos, Zuckerberg, Dorsey mold.

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Twoftlongnonefttall 13 points ago +13 / -0

Because he's not a liberal they way they all want him to be.

Clearly he's been happy to oblige them.

All of this has been made possible by liberalism:

  • Tesla's growth depends a lot on the green new deal mandating more BEV electric vehicles. The (currently expired) tax credits had the American taxpayer subsidizing wealthy people buying expensive Model S/X

  • Tesla only makes money because it sells carbon credits. It loses money selling cars. In Q3 2020: $331 million profit, of which $397 million were carbon credit sales.

  • Quick googling says that Tesla/SpaceX have received $5 Billion in government handouts

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ColbyP 9 points ago +9 / -0

You're not wrong, but also what do you expect him to do? If the government is dumb enough to offer him free money, he'd be a terrible businessman if he turned it down.

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Awakened 4 points ago +4 / -0

Exactly. They say the same thing about Trump.

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polk_high_4_td 6 points ago +6 / -0

Yeah that's why i didn't like him before, taking advantage of tax credits to sustain his business. But the part you quoted, i was referring to his not conforming to them the way they do cancel culture, political correctness and their general mob mentality. He has frequently stood up to their bs, like calling out fake news directly. Here he is tearing cnn a new asshole... https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1250694035984969732?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1250694035984969732%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftownhall.com%2Ftipsheet%2Fleahbarkoukis%2F2020%2F04%2F16%2Felon-musk-hits-cnn-over-fake-news-on-ventilators-n2567038

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prayinpede 5 points ago +6 / -1

Unfortunately with our corporatism laws, big corps cant compete wothout it. So does a person avoid the money out of principle and get left behind or take it and persue their vision?

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DrinkLikeAGilmore 3 points ago +3 / -0

Seems he is a fraud.

For freedom and does business in China after all that has been exposed about them even just over past year?

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hilboggins 7 points ago +17 / -10

He will flip whichever way has more profit.

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Meto1776 20 points ago +22 / -2

Which is at least totally honest

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Pukeahontas 18 points ago +19 / -1

He is also for building colonies in space. He even published a draft of some interplanetary law that says governments of earth have no right on properties in space LOL. Half his ideas may never work. If he can get transhumanism to work why not give it to those who want it? He has been calling the COVID bullshit for what it is - a scam - from very early on. Tons of people red pilled by him on this alone.

They tried everything to close down his Fremont factory due to china virus. And even before that, there was too much bs in his factory, with people spying on it with satellites and spies, trying to expose him. The county ordered him to close the factory. China meanwhile probably sucked his dick to get him to open a factory - they really go the extra mile to appease large companies, especially tech companies, so they can steal the tech and appropriate the plants later. If they do that to him, its his problem.

Dont see any reason to hate him tbh

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AmericanPatriot6f0 1 point ago +1 / -0

Isn’t Tesla open source anyway?

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GopnikGod 10 points ago +10 / -0

Yes to the first one, hard no to the second.

Why China.. ffs.. Of all places, Elon.

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Red_Hibiscus 4 points ago +5 / -1

He’s a business man who believes in his products, and not cancel culture.

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DrinkLikeAGilmore 6 points ago +6 / -0

If he is giving China (CCP) money by having his company there, he definitely believes in cancel culture by helping fund it.

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Choomguy 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yeah, i listened to him on the rogan podcast about his implant bullshit. He doesnt get that he wont control that, and people dont get that he will sell it to the highest bidder, probably the cia.

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DrinkLikeAGilmore 3 points ago +3 / -0

He is probably making it FOR the 🤡

Yes, he is incredibly brilliant but I think he's an evil genius who is all on board with new age nwo ideals. I dont trust him.