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NonNobisDomine3 238 points ago +240 / -2

People with a brain knew this was a scam and that a vaccine cannot be developed on a moments notice and be fully safe and efficient.

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JoinTheDiscussion 66 points ago +77 / -11

Why not when its just a flu vaccine?

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OwnaLib87 147 points ago +147 / -0

We wish. Instead they used the opportunity to push a whole new technology of mRNA “vaccine,” that’s not really a vaccine by definition at all.

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DCdeplorable 94 points ago +95 / -1

Someone gets it! I've been saying "gene splicing" or "genetic modification" any chance I get, and throw in some Bioshock references for the lulz

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gloriouschairmanpao 113 points ago +113 / -0

fun fact: mRNA can be used to inject novel strains of genetic material into new cells. apart from the fact that nobody knows what the fuck this thing does, also nobody knows what the long-term effects will be. there's a reason mRNA treatments have never been approved in use in human patients before: ethical concerns that it might cause cancer. if you interrupt the expression of telomere chains, you could accelerate cellular degeneration. not saying that will happen, but there's no way to know that it won't. they're gonna inject a billion guinea pigs and see what happens.

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BlueRay83 23 points ago +23 / -0

genetic modification of foods, NO WAY! Genetically modification of peoples, YES PLEASE

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shadypollster 6 points ago +6 / -0

Mutagenic serum hmmmMmmm

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markolbb 6 points ago +6 / -0

Haven't played bioshock in... a decade maybe? Remind me with some references!

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TRUMP_1776 5 points ago +5 / -0

I hope the new game comes out by next year

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BasedRadioChaz 14 points ago +15 / -1

Yeah, I'm not beta testing no fucking vaccine, thanks.

If it renders liberals sterile maybe they'll have fixed our problems for us in 3~ decades.

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gloriouschairmanpao 31 points ago +31 / -0

that is their claim, but they can't hide from the fact that mRNA treatments have been proposed for decades, and shot down due to ethical concerns for decades. there are thousands of published articles about why mRNA is too risky for use in human patients.

Edit: also worth pointing out, there is a growing body of evidence to suggest that RNA -- specifically mRNA -- plays a crucial role in the development of many types of cancer

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Cicicici 11 points ago +11 / -0

It can’t...unless it has a reverse transcriptase, or the mRNA codes for a reverse transcriptase.

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DomTullipso 3 points ago +3 / -0

Does it not tell proteins how to fold? Isn't that what DNA does? So does it do the same thing as DNA whether it affects it or not?

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EpstinDidntKilHimslf 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wise tactic. What about HIV RNA?

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DrinkLikeAGilmore 5 points ago +5 / -0

Axeine

As in they want to give us all the axe

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ronaldcamillo123 4 points ago +4 / -0

I wonder what the GMO people think.

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SteelMongoose 21 points ago +21 / -0

There are some important differences between developing a vaccine for a novel corona virus and developing an anticipatory vaccine for seasonal flu.

Beyond that, we're talking about mRNA biotech, which is a whole different thing from traditional vaccines.

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BigDaddyT 16 points ago +17 / -1

The reason they had to do this is because "Covid-19" cannot be isolated let alone create dead virus to give you like a traditional vaccine. That's how we all know Covid-19 isn't real. It doesn't exist.

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Consumerbot381732 3 points ago +3 / -0

Can you help me understand how and why my wife and mother-in-law both recently lost their sense of taste and smell, describing it as a novel experience, while they and our entire family experienced significant fatigue, and the one individual tested popped positive? I’m extremely skeptical of any “official” information, and at this point fully believe that SARS-COV19 was developed in a lab, likely in Wuhan. I’m open-minded, though, and would welcome any information you could share that would support your assertion that there’s no such thing as COVID-19.

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freebirdie 3 points ago +3 / -0

I've tried explaining this to people a few times but I've yet to make an impact. At least you understand.

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GODwins76 0 points ago +2 / -2

But the virtual model!

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DRKMSTR 17 points ago +17 / -0

The influenza vaccine is well understood, all they do each year is switch the strain based upon estimated outbreaks and mutations.

It would take a year or two to develop a Coronavirus vaccine + a year of tests. This new "mRNA" is a shortcut. It's messy because they haven't used it ever before.

No opinion here, just fact. I'm a bit indifferent until I see solid evidence on either side.

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OVERMENSCH 11 points ago +11 / -0

Why do you need evidence to agree that rushing a vaccination of a type that has never before been approved for human experimentation to billions of people isn't a good idea?

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DRKMSTR 7 points ago +7 / -0

I was only speaking on the merit of whether the vaccine is or is not evil.

I didn't comment about that. Yes it is rushed, that is a fact.

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Atlantapede 10 points ago +10 / -0

lol

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unicornpoop 3 points ago +3 / -0

But it’s not. Regular flu vaccines are made from weakened virus. This is a MRNA vaccine that has only been tested in trials but never approved to use before. I think it was being developed for cancer treatment. It affects your dna.

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theonlymagascientist 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not all flu vaccines are made from attenuated viruses though. There are recombinant vaccines for flu like Flublok, which is generated in bioreactors. You're right that mRNA vaccines have been mainly tested for cancer though. They don't integrate themselves into the host genome however, so they don't actually modify your DNA.

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edxzxz 33 points ago +33 / -0

idk about that - they say you can still get china flu even after you've been vaccinated, have to keep wearing a mask, and it has already killed and permanently injured a couple people. I could mix up some rat poison and lavendar oil in 10 minutes, claim it's a vaccine, and get the same results.

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maga_mama_757 40 points ago +40 / -0

Yep. I have a doctor friend who is on the biden covid team. She posted a picture of herself on fuckbook yesterday after getting the second dose of the vaccine wearing a mask that says,

Vaccinated But still wearing a mask

I wanted to comment, "Then what's the freaking point?!?!" but didn't.

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edxzxz 25 points ago +25 / -0

So if the vaccine doesn't stop you from getting the disease, what does it do?

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maga_mama_757 21 points ago +21 / -0

I have no freaking clue, but sure as hell don't want to find out for myself...

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skatestraight 8 points ago +8 / -0

Lessens the symptoms they claim.

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Here_we_go 8 points ago +8 / -0

I dont have that restraint

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Humans have been on the planet for years. When have we ever ran around in masks for months on end? My father lived his whole life and never once had to wear a mask to go into a store.

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edxzxz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Honk Honk!

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Consumerbot381732 3 points ago +3 / -0

True. And did you know that they eventually learned that those masks didn’t actually help during the Spanish flu?

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

For this length of time? Really?

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debacle 16 points ago +16 / -0

The vaccine was ready in JANUARY. Before we even locked down. And then they slow walked the trials over the next 6-8 months.

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freebirdie 4 points ago +4 / -0

Exactly. Plandemic indeed.

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UbiquityZero 2 points ago +2 / -0

And wasn’t the CARES act passed in 2019? Before all this shit?

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1337Gandalf 9 points ago +9 / -0

Especially when it alters your RNA

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ThoroughInspection 3 points ago +3 / -0

Covid is a scam.

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HockeyMom4Trump 3 points ago +3 / -0

Election is a scam, too.