Thanks! Are you in medical? I’ve seen a lot of posts/comments/articles online, including in this very thread, claiming that this is the very first mRNA vaccine ever. And that it’s untested technology. Is that not true? Where have they been used before?
The failures were from the delivery mechanism, not the mRNA.
This one uses lipid nanoparticles to encapsulate the mRNA so that it can be delivered to the cytoplasm of the cells.
The problem is that the lipid capsids are impregnated with polyethylene glycol, and this appears to be provoking anaphylaxis in some cases. If anyone's reacting to anything, it's probably the PEG not the mRNA. mRNA is incredibly unstable outside cellular walls.
They've been used in animals for years, the question of birth defects and others is because we haven't seen them in people.
The bells palsy is likely from a reaction to one of the other ingredients causing inflammation impinging on a nerve.
As it is right now, hospitalized pregnant patients with sars-covid face pregnancy termination because of the toxicity of current treatments.... All in all a pretty shitty situation that (I feel) China got away with Scott free
I heard about the Bell’s palsy but not birth defects.
What kind of animals get them? Regular farm animals or pets? Or do you mean lab animals like rats? Are they safe in animals? What kinds of birth defects are they worried about?
I heard about the Bell’s palsy but not birth defects.
What kind of animals get them? Regular farm animals or pets? Or do you mean lab animals like rats? Are they safe in animals? What kinds of birth defects are they worried about?
This entire situation is crazy. Just look at those basic questions! In a sane society I could switch on something like CNN and hear these kinds of discussions rather than asking people online.
RNA is toxic and causes liver damage/inflammation amoungst many other things, probably the reason for bells palsy
The vaccine is mRNA-based not RNA. mRNA is extremely unstable outside the cellular cytoplasm. That's part of the reason why the vaccines have to be stored at such a low temperature.
The other problem, and the reason why the Pfizer vaccine has to be colder, is because of the genetic optimizations that were done to increase the transcription rate of proteins from the mRNA. The Moderna vaccine doesn't appear to do this, thus it's more stable at higher temperatures than the Pfizer vaccine.
As I posted in another comment, the reactions causing various things ranging from anaphylaxis to alleged Bell's Palsy cases are probably from the polyethylene glycol-stabilized lipid nanoparticles. PEG is generally considered safe, biologically inert, and non-toxic, but we know it can provoke an immune response.
I highly suspect that if there's a problem with this vaccine, it's from the PEG used to stabilize the lipid capsoids, which are used as the delivery mechanism.
Why the fuck did they not ship the doses on dry ice? I was told several months ago that there'd be a huge dry ice shortage, but that never happened. This should be common sense for any pharma company.
Some tid bits from the anons
it degenerates quickly and deterates past 50% effectiveness when it is out of perfect lab conditions really easily
RNA is toxic and causes liver damage/inflammation amoungst many other things, probably the reason for bells palsy
they really dont know of it works more trials are needed but its supposedly safe enough to see if it works on the general population.
Makes more sense why the ceo sold a bunch of stock the same day it released.
Classic move! Where the fuck are the sleepy SEC when you need them?!
They scheduled the stock sales 5 or 6 months in advance. Coincidence much?
Sure are a lot of coincidences going around these days!
The liver damage point makes sense with the withholding of alcohol that they were suggesting.
I guess nancy didnt get the memo
Acetaminophen, found in popular Tylenol and store brands, should also be curbed. It can be pretty toxic to the liver at lower doses.
END THE MEDICAL INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX WHICH BROUGHT US THE LAB CREATED VIRUS AND MANDATES THE VACCINE
The RNA causing bells palsy is normal for vaccines in general, it is just this one is new. The better question is teratogenicity
Thanks! Are you in medical? I’ve seen a lot of posts/comments/articles online, including in this very thread, claiming that this is the very first mRNA vaccine ever. And that it’s untested technology. Is that not true? Where have they been used before?
It is the first mRNA vaccine. They’ve tried before and failed.
The failures were from the delivery mechanism, not the mRNA.
This one uses lipid nanoparticles to encapsulate the mRNA so that it can be delivered to the cytoplasm of the cells.
The problem is that the lipid capsids are impregnated with polyethylene glycol, and this appears to be provoking anaphylaxis in some cases. If anyone's reacting to anything, it's probably the PEG not the mRNA. mRNA is incredibly unstable outside cellular walls.
They've been used in animals for years, the question of birth defects and others is because we haven't seen them in people.
The bells palsy is likely from a reaction to one of the other ingredients causing inflammation impinging on a nerve.
As it is right now, hospitalized pregnant patients with sars-covid face pregnancy termination because of the toxicity of current treatments.... All in all a pretty shitty situation that (I feel) China got away with Scott free
Thanks! Yeah, what a mess.
I heard about the Bell’s palsy but not birth defects.
What kind of animals get them? Regular farm animals or pets? Or do you mean lab animals like rats? Are they safe in animals? What kinds of birth defects are they worried about?
Thanks! Yeah, what a mess.
I heard about the Bell’s palsy but not birth defects.
What kind of animals get them? Regular farm animals or pets? Or do you mean lab animals like rats? Are they safe in animals? What kinds of birth defects are they worried about?
This entire situation is crazy. Just look at those basic questions! In a sane society I could switch on something like CNN and hear these kinds of discussions rather than asking people online.
The vaccine is mRNA-based not RNA. mRNA is extremely unstable outside the cellular cytoplasm. That's part of the reason why the vaccines have to be stored at such a low temperature.
The other problem, and the reason why the Pfizer vaccine has to be colder, is because of the genetic optimizations that were done to increase the transcription rate of proteins from the mRNA. The Moderna vaccine doesn't appear to do this, thus it's more stable at higher temperatures than the Pfizer vaccine.
As I posted in another comment, the reactions causing various things ranging from anaphylaxis to alleged Bell's Palsy cases are probably from the polyethylene glycol-stabilized lipid nanoparticles. PEG is generally considered safe, biologically inert, and non-toxic, but we know it can provoke an immune response.
I highly suspect that if there's a problem with this vaccine, it's from the PEG used to stabilize the lipid capsoids, which are used as the delivery mechanism.
Why the fuck did they not ship the doses on dry ice? I was told several months ago that there'd be a huge dry ice shortage, but that never happened. This should be common sense for any pharma company.
They are, apparently, but the question is how long you can warm it up to room temp while still remaining viable.