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Cantshadowbanthemall 10 points ago +15 / -5

The RNA causing bells palsy is normal for vaccines in general, it is just this one is new. The better question is teratogenicity

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overtotheright 7 points ago +9 / -2

Thanks! Are you in medical? I’ve seen a lot of posts/comments/articles online, including in this very thread, claiming that this is the very first mRNA vaccine ever. And that it’s untested technology. Is that not true? Where have they been used before?

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Italianshamrock 17 points ago +18 / -1

It is the first mRNA vaccine. They’ve tried before and failed.

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SordidPontification 5 points ago +6 / -1

The failures were from the delivery mechanism, not the mRNA.

This one uses lipid nanoparticles to encapsulate the mRNA so that it can be delivered to the cytoplasm of the cells.

The problem is that the lipid capsids are impregnated with polyethylene glycol, and this appears to be provoking anaphylaxis in some cases. If anyone's reacting to anything, it's probably the PEG not the mRNA. mRNA is incredibly unstable outside cellular walls.

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theonlymagascientist 3 points ago +3 / -0

Yup. One possible outcome of receiving the vaccine is developing a PEG allergy. We have no data on the frequency of this outcome, just that it can happen.

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Cantshadowbanthemall 3 points ago +4 / -1

They've been used in animals for years, the question of birth defects and others is because we haven't seen them in people.

The bells palsy is likely from a reaction to one of the other ingredients causing inflammation impinging on a nerve.

As it is right now, hospitalized pregnant patients with sars-covid face pregnancy termination because of the toxicity of current treatments.... All in all a pretty shitty situation that (I feel) China got away with Scott free

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overtotheright 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks! Yeah, what a mess.

I heard about the Bell’s palsy but not birth defects.

What kind of animals get them? Regular farm animals or pets? Or do you mean lab animals like rats? Are they safe in animals? What kinds of birth defects are they worried about?

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overtotheright 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks! Yeah, what a mess.

I heard about the Bell’s palsy but not birth defects.

What kind of animals get them? Regular farm animals or pets? Or do you mean lab animals like rats? Are they safe in animals? What kinds of birth defects are they worried about?

This entire situation is crazy. Just look at those basic questions! In a sane society I could switch on something like CNN and hear these kinds of discussions rather than asking people online.

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Cantshadowbanthemall 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's why I want the equal time to come back for any program that calls itself news