Jesus told them, “You will indeed drink from my bitter cup. But I have no right to say who will sit on my right or my left. My Father has prepared those places for the ones he has chosen.”
Matthew 20:23 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.20.23.NLT
Jesus is talking to them about the way he will be rejected and how he will be crucified. He has warned us multiple times we will suffer the same for his name. Just as he was warning them.
He went on a little farther and bowed with his face to the ground, praying, “My Father! If it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.”
Matthew 26:39 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.26.39.NLT
Then Jesus left them a second time and prayed, “My Father! If this cup cannot be taken away unless I drink it, your will be done.”
Matthew 26:42 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.26.42.NLT
Be forewarned, the freedom we have had to worship Christ in the open is being stripped away.
“Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because you are my followers. And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people. Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come.
Matthew 24:9-14 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.24.9-14.NLT
This is why I don't read or promote the NLT. They added the word bitter to the following verse because the translators thought they understood. There is no greek word there for bitter.
Anyone who teaches something different is arrogant and lacks understanding. Such a person has an unhealthy desire to quibble over the meaning of words. This stirs up arguments ending in jealousy, division, slander, and evil suspicions.
1 Timothy 6:4 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/1ti.6.4.NLT
he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions,
I Timothy 6:4 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/1ti.6.4.NKJV
They also didn't talk about the baptism either. Does that make it any less God's word? If the NLT can bring someone to Christ, why do you condemn it? Being a theological purist doesn't make you correct, it just shows a lack of compassion. Just because the word doesn't have an origin in greek does not discredit the translation.
Yes actually, it does discredit the translation. The fact of the matter is translations of the Bible are not the Bible, they're just english translations of it. These people arrogantly thought it best to add words to Scripture, thinking they knew what they were talking about.
News flash, they didn't.
James and John did not have to drink the cup Jesus was about to drink, they are two different cups.
But Jesus answered, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink?” They said to Him, “We are able.” He said to them, “My cup you shall drink; but to sit on My right and on My left, this is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by My Father.”
— Matthew 20:22-23
"My cup" is different from "the cup", they are two different cups. What is He referring to when He tells them they shall drink?
And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.”
— Matthew 26:27-29
What about the cup He was about to drink? You made a correct reference of it when He was in the garden saying let this cup pass from Me, but you still do not understand what was in the cup.
This is the second what is the cup thread you've made. Both have devolved into nothing. If you are so highly enlightened, share your superior knowledge. Impress upon us what only you know.
There are many cups in the bible, what they represent literally or figuratively mean nothing. All that matters is Christ, his sacrifice and resurrection.
No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven. And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life.
John 3:13-15 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/jhn.3.13-15.NLT
You say there is no free will. But why does scripture say:
“Look, today I am giving you the choice between a blessing and a curse! You will be blessed if you obey the commands of the Lord your God that I am giving you today. But you will be cursed if you reject the commands of the Lord your God and turn away from him and worship gods you have not known before.
Deuteronomy 11:26-28 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/deu.11.26-28.NLT
And again:
“You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way.
Matthew 7:13 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.7.13.NLT
If your argument is that you have to partake the Lord's blood as communion, why did the thief on the cross get a pass?
Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your Kingdom.” And Jesus replied, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.”
Luke 23:42-43 NLT
https://bible.com/bible/116/luk.23.42-43.NLT
You seem fixated on the golden idol of the cup. James the apostle did die for his faith. And John suffered greatly for his. You do not understand scripture as you should.
“See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse: the blessing, if you listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, which I am commanding you today; and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, by following other gods which you have not known.
— Deuteronomy 11:26-28
People have the choice to listen or not, however this choice is not based on man's free will. This is a foolish argument to make, just like all the other foolish arguments you're making.
No one will listen and make the right choice unless they are given ears to hear so that they will listen, which comes from God.
And the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the Lord had spoken to Moses.
— Exodus 9:12
The hearing ear and the seeing eye,
The Lord has made both of them.
— Proverbs 20:12
They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error.
— 1 John 4:5-6
I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances.
— Ezekiel 36:27
Who causes people to walk in His statutes, is it man's supposed free will, or is it God who causes it to happen?
For someone who makes such confident assertions about things, you sure don't know much about what you're talking about.
And He said, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.
— Luke 8:10
As far as the cup, you believe James and John drank it because one of them died and one of them suffered greatly?
Have you never read:
For a cup is in the hand of the Lord, and the wine foams;
It is well mixed, and He pours out of this;
Surely all the wicked of the earth must drain and drink down its dregs.
— Psalm 75:8
Jesus told them, “You will indeed drink from my bitter cup. But I have no right to say who will sit on my right or my left. My Father has prepared those places for the ones he has chosen.” Matthew 20:23 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.20.23.NLT
Jesus is talking to them about the way he will be rejected and how he will be crucified. He has warned us multiple times we will suffer the same for his name. Just as he was warning them.
He went on a little farther and bowed with his face to the ground, praying, “My Father! If it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.” Matthew 26:39 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.26.39.NLT
Then Jesus left them a second time and prayed, “My Father! If this cup cannot be taken away unless I drink it, your will be done.” Matthew 26:42 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.26.42.NLT
Be forewarned, the freedom we have had to worship Christ in the open is being stripped away.
“Then you will be arrested, persecuted, and killed. You will be hated all over the world because you are my followers. And many will turn away from me and betray and hate each other. And many false prophets will appear and will deceive many people. Sin will be rampant everywhere, and the love of many will grow cold. But the one who endures to the end will be saved. And the Good News about the Kingdom will be preached throughout the whole world, so that all nations will hear it; and then the end will come. Matthew 24:9-14 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.24.9-14.NLT
This is why I don't read or promote the NLT. They added the word bitter to the following verse because the translators thought they understood. There is no greek word there for bitter.
Anyone who teaches something different is arrogant and lacks understanding. Such a person has an unhealthy desire to quibble over the meaning of words. This stirs up arguments ending in jealousy, division, slander, and evil suspicions. 1 Timothy 6:4 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/1ti.6.4.NLT
he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, I Timothy 6:4 NKJV https://bible.com/bible/114/1ti.6.4.NKJV
They also didn't talk about the baptism either. Does that make it any less God's word? If the NLT can bring someone to Christ, why do you condemn it? Being a theological purist doesn't make you correct, it just shows a lack of compassion. Just because the word doesn't have an origin in greek does not discredit the translation.
Yes actually, it does discredit the translation. The fact of the matter is translations of the Bible are not the Bible, they're just english translations of it. These people arrogantly thought it best to add words to Scripture, thinking they knew what they were talking about.
News flash, they didn't.
James and John did not have to drink the cup Jesus was about to drink, they are two different cups.
But Jesus answered, “You do not know what you are asking. Are you able to drink the cup that I am about to drink?” They said to Him, “We are able.” He said to them, “My cup you shall drink; but to sit on My right and on My left, this is not Mine to give, but it is for those for whom it has been prepared by My Father.” — Matthew 20:22-23
"My cup" is different from "the cup", they are two different cups. What is He referring to when He tells them they shall drink?
And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. But I say to you, I will not drink of this fruit of the vine from now on until that day when I drink it new with you in My Father’s kingdom.” — Matthew 26:27-29
What about the cup He was about to drink? You made a correct reference of it when He was in the garden saying let this cup pass from Me, but you still do not understand what was in the cup.
This is the second what is the cup thread you've made. Both have devolved into nothing. If you are so highly enlightened, share your superior knowledge. Impress upon us what only you know.
There are many cups in the bible, what they represent literally or figuratively mean nothing. All that matters is Christ, his sacrifice and resurrection.
No one has ever gone to heaven and returned. But the Son of Man has come down from heaven. And as Moses lifted up the bronze snake on a pole in the wilderness, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, so that everyone who believes in him will have eternal life. John 3:13-15 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/jhn.3.13-15.NLT
https://thedonald.win/p/11RhKJDxJc/many-of-you-reject-the-bible-as-/ This you? You literally made my argument about NLT.
You say there is no free will. But why does scripture say: “Look, today I am giving you the choice between a blessing and a curse! You will be blessed if you obey the commands of the Lord your God that I am giving you today. But you will be cursed if you reject the commands of the Lord your God and turn away from him and worship gods you have not known before. Deuteronomy 11:26-28 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/deu.11.26-28.NLT
And again:
“You can enter God’s Kingdom only through the narrow gate. The highway to hell is broad, and its gate is wide for the many who choose that way. Matthew 7:13 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/mat.7.13.NLT
If your argument is that you have to partake the Lord's blood as communion, why did the thief on the cross get a pass?
Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your Kingdom.” And Jesus replied, “I assure you, today you will be with me in paradise.” Luke 23:42-43 NLT https://bible.com/bible/116/luk.23.42-43.NLT
You seem fixated on the golden idol of the cup. James the apostle did die for his faith. And John suffered greatly for his. You do not understand scripture as you should.
“See, I am setting before you today a blessing and a curse: the blessing, if you listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, which I am commanding you today; and the curse, if you do not listen to the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside from the way which I am commanding you today, by following other gods which you have not known. — Deuteronomy 11:26-28
People have the choice to listen or not, however this choice is not based on man's free will. This is a foolish argument to make, just like all the other foolish arguments you're making.
No one will listen and make the right choice unless they are given ears to hear so that they will listen, which comes from God.
And the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart, and he did not listen to them, just as the Lord had spoken to Moses. — Exodus 9:12
The hearing ear and the seeing eye, The Lord has made both of them. — Proverbs 20:12
They are from the world; therefore they speak as from the world, and the world listens to them. We are from God; he who knows God listens to us; he who is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. — 1 John 4:5-6
I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances. — Ezekiel 36:27
Who causes people to walk in His statutes, is it man's supposed free will, or is it God who causes it to happen?
For someone who makes such confident assertions about things, you sure don't know much about what you're talking about.
And He said, “To you it has been granted to know the mysteries of the kingdom of God, but to the rest it is in parables, so that seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand. — Luke 8:10
As far as the cup, you believe James and John drank it because one of them died and one of them suffered greatly?
Have you never read:
For a cup is in the hand of the Lord, and the wine foams; It is well mixed, and He pours out of this; Surely all the wicked of the earth must drain and drink down its dregs. — Psalm 75:8