We were hesitant to do this because of the social aspect. We are older pedes and growing up when we heard someone was homeschooled there was a serious issue with the kid. Now notsomuch. He is almost 3, so he never stepped foot in a school.
We are still wrestling with it purely for the social aspect but we will not sit by and watch people put their twisted version of reality into our son's head. Thankfully PA (currently) has school choice.
I really am posting for other pedes to think about this decision. I wish we had a maga online charter school
Probably the best thing anyone can do at this point....prevent the state from brainwashing their own kids. Updoot for not crying and doing nothing like most conservatives seem to do.
Husband was a marine (once a marine always a marine). He doesnt give up, just restratigize.
We started last fall. Never going back. I envision us starting small businesses and putting kids to work in those at a young age.
We have church and other homeschooled kids nearby to supplement the socializing.
We are giving homeschooling a second shot right now. My wife would readily tell you that she does not have the gift of teaching, at least not when there are 4 (pretty lazy) kids. But the indoctrination and the dehumanizing with the masks is too much. I’m so glad she decided to give it another try. And good for you—I’ll pray it works out for both of our families.
You don’t have to actually TEACH like a teacher. My family does the self-teaching route. The majority of the time the kids work on their own assignments and pursue their own interests. Takes like a hour or two a day most of the time. There’s no reason to be having “school” 8 hours a day.
I've heard many home schooling parents say this. They can teach in an hour or two what takes a public government school 8 hours to do.
100% accurate.
For those reading- it really is.
My wife and I can teach more and get more done with our kids in like 2-3 hours than many do in 2 full days at a regular school.
Same here... plus, our kid can get a full night sleep no matter what time he goes to bed, and he's not inundated with hours of homework at night, gives him time to play, do stuff, build stuff, etc.
As a public school graduate, I honestly hated this aspect of school. Getting up everyday and going to school for most of the day. It’s like they’re conditioning you to defer to authority figures and get you accustomed to doing scut work for hours at a time, THEN send you home with hours more work. Felt like a job I hated, combined with a prison sentence. I did not enjoy school at all.
That’s what school is. That’s what feminism was intending to cause. This is the cancer that liberalism has created.
Because public school is basically free daycare with indoctrination as it’s primary function.
Yes!!!
Plus the whole 8 hour school day was literally conditioning for work on the factory floor. They even copied the end-of-shift bell from the factory into the schools.
Now that very few kids will ever even see a factory floor, much less work on one, this outmoded daily schedule remains for daycare & indoctrination (not necessarily in that order).
Yeah man, we homeshool ours. You literally buy the books online. And say, for like 3rd grade math, you just make sure that in a year, your kid works their way through the book. So every day, my daughter will do 6-7 printed worksheets from her math book which takes an hour, maybe two and then she reads for 30 minutes out loud, and does a little art craft or a small science experiment for kids here or there my wife finds online. Takes about 3 hours.
Yep, same here. Our oldest is a math major now too. Self taught until he started taking dual credit as a junior in high school which is free in our state.
As a public school graduate, I honestly hated this aspect of school. Getting up everyday and going to school for most of the day. It’s like they’re conditioning you to defer to authority figures and get you accustomed to doing scut work for hours at a time, THEN send you home with hours more work. Felt like a job I hated, combined with a prison sentence. I did not enjoy school at all.
Well.... at least in prison you get paid to do a job.... maybe not much, but something.
We are done in 2 hours as well. Stress level is WAY down
I used to get my work done by like noon and then go play baseball with my dad (my mom worked) for a few hours in the afternoon while all the other kids were still sitting in school lol. Best life for a kid ever.
Yeah this is pretty much what I did. I was home schooled for 9 years and essentially taught myself everything from textbooks and tye corresponding school work. Kids can teach themselves everything IMO. It's not until you get into advanced mathematics and stuff that having a professor/expert is necessary. My homeschool group used to meet on Fridays from 8-3 where the students would turn in their work from the last week and the teachers (who were volunteer parents) would go over the material for the week/present projects/etc. and would grade the work and have it back by the end of the day.
To be fair, a lot of teachers don't have the gift of teaching, either.
I will pray for your family as well. So much time is wasted on nonsense in school on a regular day. When I was in school I was bored in high school. Teachers had zero drive and students did the bare minimum.
Even if your kids do school work for 3 hours in the morning, they will get more done than most kids do all day. That leaves the afternoon for important practical learning out of doors.
Help them start a garden. Raise a chicken or a rabbit. Eventually teach them how to build a fort. Teach them to cook their own meals and do their own laundry. Maintain a budget. Do something with electronics or coding.
Church is good for socializing, but there are many homeschooling mom groups now - more than there ever were 20 years ago. These groups go on field trips to museums and whatnot and get together at different intervals for socializing.
All things I learned while homeschooling, and I made it through gradschool doctoral candidacy before I moved on with my life. And both my parents worked so I taught myself from grade 5 up at my grandparents house.
You can do it!
this is what happens: https://i.imgur.com/TFOiBnF.jpg
The kids sit around while the teacher lectures, and then the teacher tries to ask questions to find out if kids are getting it. If one kid isn't getting it, everybody else has to sit and wait for it to be explained.
Then somebody has to go to the bathroom, and somebody else is kicking the kid in front of him, and somebody else is trying to steal or sneak something, and.....
A lot of time is wasted because kids are bored and restless, and because they can't just move ahead with their own work while others are catching up. And nobody can move onto another subject until the current subject is done.
And so on.
Even in the little red schoolhouse, kids were allowed and encouraged to work at their own pace and to get ahead in their good subjects.
Check out different home school programs
One example 👇🏽
https://www.memoriapress.com/
It’s great. Most of these programs have a study plan, daily routine etc for your wife (or you) to follow. You pay for the books and stuff but it all comes with a lesson plan for each day of the school year.
As far as social aspects. We are catholic and the parish we go too also has a school. My kids are able to participate and take part in all their sports programs. Basketball, football, volleyball, soccer etc. Its awesome.
Also, check out the YMCA. They often times, especially in the spring and summer, have a ton of sports programs and activities for kiddos.
We’ve homeschooled from the very beginning and will continue to do so. Very much worth it!
I was homeschooled after the age of 7, so I had minimal exposure to communist indoctrination. I went to a trade school, and now make north of $70k a year. So yes, if you do it right you will have a success story, not a messed up kid. That said, I do know a few parents who "homeschooled" their kid, and didn't actually teach them at all. Those kids are indeed screwed up. Homeschooling takes time, effort, and a willingness to teach, as well as a strong curriculum. My parents had all of that, and used the stellar Alpha & Omega line of curricula supplemented with a lot of other material.
used the stellar Alpha & Omega line of curricula supplemented with a lot of other material.
This sort of thing is a huge advantage alone. Homeschool curricula is very developed, and, free of Wokeism, very objective.
Not to mention the field trips. "We're learning about ancient cultures, and are covering mound builder culture? Get in the car kids, we're going to Pinson Mounds!"
https://tnstateparks.com/parks/pinson-mounds
Now at school the only thing you can say about ancient cultures is that they were victims.
https://www.focusonthefamily.com/parenting/homeschool-curriculum-options/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1042701&utm_source=Announcements&seid=113766586
Really good sources for you...
Thank you pede! Need all the help we can get.
And give your local church a call.. they often have groups that meet up for similar efforts.
Don’t forget to find out if there are homeschool co-ops in your area. Helps with teaching different subjects, socialization, field trips, etc.
Best way to socialize your child is to keep them out of public schools! Here is a start on info: https://hslda.org/legal/pennsylvania
Thank you fellow pede!!
https://www.thehomeschoolmom.com/homeschooling-in-pennsylvania/homeschool-organizations-support-groups/
https://chaponline.com/
https://chaponline.com/find-support-groups/
There is an America First home school program, Tom Woods and Ron Paul did it. Maybe called Liberty Classroom or something like that?
Almost. Ron Paul has a homeschool curriculum simply called the Ron Paul Curriculum, which Tom Woods made a bunch of history videos for.
Tom Woods also has his own "curriculum", which is called Liberty Classroom, but that's not for homeschooling necessarily. It's for anyone who is interested in learning more about history and economics from a conservative/libertarian perspective.
As far as I know Ron Paul's curriculum isn't overtly political, whereas Liberty Classroom is. It pretty much has to be.
I dont have any children yet, but I plan to do the same thing...at least until highschool.
I was homeschooled for a couple years in elementary school... Because my mom didnt like the local elementary school that i was attending.
I loved being homeschooled.
It was awesome, wasn't it? I loved it as well, and it taught me that learning doesn't end after school- we learn constantly and are better for it!
You get to know your kids much better, too. Their talents and strengths become very apparent.
It was great... I learned far more. I was in triple advanced math. The level of attention helped me so greatly.
It was also cozy, especially for a little 4th grader lol.
Right there with you.
We do the same for ours. It was leaving the minds of the future in the hands of schools that got us into this current culture we deal with now.
Parents of the year....My daughter is an online Charter School teacher in PA.
The Biggest issue I see is making sure your kids socialise with other kids, so they don't become isolated.
There's these things called "homeschool groups" you can join which have regular get-togethers where the kids (and parents) can socialize.
That's our biggest worry. But will pursue little league, karate etc. He is going to be a big guy so physical activities are a must. Right now we have an indoor trampoline to burn his energy.
Can you find pods of homeschoolers in your area? This is becoming much more common. It can also split the burden between multiple families
This is the second time I see pods/learning pods mentioned. What is it, and how does it work? I'm genuinely curious, as my wife and I will need to make a decision for our 3 year old daughter soon.
It's just getting 3-10 children together from different households to do the educating. Small classrooms put together by parents.
There are tons of socializing groups for homeschooling. Find a few others homeschooling in your area and they can help too. The homeschooling websites and groups organize this also.
Don't worry too much about the socialization aspect. Your kid will end up being an actual adult if they spend a lot of time around adults. Putting a whole lot of kids together and wanting them to be like each other isn't exactly a recipe for success.
This is another good point. My oldest is 2.5 and I talk to her like an adult. Her vocabulary is far more advanced than her same age cousins in daycare all day. She knew all her letters and numbers to 10 before she was 2, but we worked with her every day on flashcard for 10 minutes.
She plays with kids at the playground or at church so socializing isn't an issue. I worry less about her misbehaving than I do about other kids setting a bad example.
One aspect of the old one room schoolhouse that was positive is the different ages. I don’t think it’s healthy for kids to only socialize with their own age group. It’s good for them to have older kids to learn from, and younger kids to assist.
Boys need physical exercise, but our feminized school systems have replaced Phys Ed and sports with diagnoses of ADHD and drugging them with Ritalin.
Covid has made that a problem for most parents/children now. This is no longer a homeschooling issue but a societal issue enforced by draconian rules. Since kids are already dealing with a lack in socialization, homeschooling is no different in that regard. If anything, homeschooling will be more socialized as they will be with an actual person and if you coordinate with other homeschoolers they can actually interact with other children. The left thinks they are sticking it to us, but if anything, they are drawing us closer together, true unity.
Exactly but to clarify, "learning to socialize" isn't the important part since the skill of socializing with immature kids rather than adults isn't a useful skill. The important part of having friends their own age is simply for their mental health.
I homeschool my 13yo. He’s fine. He will be mentally stable. Not liberally brainwashed. He has some friends. He knows how to read, add, and that communism is really really bad. He loves history so we spend extra time on that. He’s going to turn out fine! You can do it!! Plus you only get so much time with your kids. Then they have the rest of their life to go socialize with people. Socializing with brainwashed kids your own age is overrated.
If your kid likes history and your family is Christian, try a research project on the early church. It's fascinating.
I started homeschool this past September because they wanted my 8 (then 7) year old to wear a mask ALL DAY. now I will continue homeschooling indefinitely because my kids will not be getting the vaccine or be indoctrinated. It's hard, my husband and I both work full time but I do/have always worked from home. That being said, we will wrap up the second grade, entirely, by Friday. Keep in mind when you do homeschool you do not have to use a program or website, even though google searches will suggest them, just by the curriculum you want (we use spectrum), the individual work books at Mardel's are less than $10 each and at least for the lower grades you don't need the "teaching" book since you already know basic math.
When you get to upper grades, try Saxon math. Its self explanatory for kids, and advanced that it got me through college and grad school.
Read the explanation, look at the examples, do the problem sets with each lesson. So simple.
Liberty University has K-12 options also! I was researching this summer. Also, the people who say kids need daycare for socializing are ridiculous. Unless you and your hubby are not humans, your kiddo will be socializing with you and probably with other homeschool kids.
We pulled our 7 year old this year and it has been THE BEST DECISION we have ever made. Her behavior has improved immensely, and she gets so much more work done in a third of the time as she would in school. Theres way less stress on the family and she's happy about it. You need to do it. And I advise any pedes out there debating whether or not to go with homeschooling, to do it. You won't regret it. Invest a little in your kids. They will pay you back.
Do it. I had the same misgivings and trepidation when my wife told me she wanted to homeschool our children about 10 years ago. Best decision we made for our kids. Our older kids lost the crappy attitudes they’d picked up from their school friends with less discerning parents, and became sweet and happy kids again. I have one homeschool graduate who’s going to college for Political Science, and two more about to graduate in a year or two. I feel secure about their futures, especially not being brainwashed by the indoctrination.
I was homeschooled, and while I'm definitely a little quirky, I don't think anyone would say I'm not socially adept. And I probably would've been an oddball anyway.
As a 15 year old pede I can tell you this is absolutely the right decision schools now are horrible, with the indoctrination its usually a teacher to teacher thing from what I've heard, but in my experience it started all the way at the top and they were forced to do this some were fine happy with it though, the last one I was at staff was always breathing down my neck waiting for me to do something cause they dont like what i say, and they encouraged people to report me. Got suspended for a week cause I said faggot, principle was an actually gay though turns out, but hes also a faggot
lol you're going to turn out alright.
https://files.eric.ed.gov/fulltext/ED573486.pdf
We've been homeschooling our two kids for 5 years. The best decision we've ever made! You have a multitude of resources available online. Just do your due diligence researching the homeschool forums, curriculums, etc. You'll never regret making this decision for your children.
This pandemic made an immediate 20% increase in homeschooling in my district. I hope that's a permanent increase.
He will turn out respectful, well educated, able to think independently, and not a Leftist. Excellent choice. I would never send anyone I loved into the tender embrace of the government school system.
I wish I could pay a private party to include my child in a homeschool program.
I am a single father and cannot homeschool and work at same time.
I'd have to get a work at home job and likely take a large pay cut.
Have you considered not only homeschooling your own children, but seeing if any of your neighbors would pay you some to homeschool their children too? You could have a small home school classroom of 3-10 students. That way you can make it a revenue generator and add a social aspect to it so students can bounce some ideas off each other.
Homeschooling Pods & Microschooling options are becoming much more popular right now. Maybe there's an option there that would work for you.
We homeschool and it’s GREAT! You are making a great decision.
My kiddos are all able to do the social thing via sports. We belong to the parish so they’re allowed to play and participate in any and all sports.
My oldest two play basketball, volleyball, soccer, flag football etc.
Also, YMCA offers tons of sports options!
There are tons of ways to socialize homeschooling.
Also, do you really want your kids socializing in the toxic mainstream culture we have today? Overly sexualized, feminized, and illiberal?
in a culture of so much filth, I think we can agree that kids "not being completely cultured" is a very positive thing.
If you haven't already canceled your amazon account, there's a free kindle US History book from 1910.
It is filled with things I never learned in school. Pieces of history that were just left out of my history books in the 70s and 80s.
https://www.amazon.com/History-United-States-Charles-Austin-ebook/dp/B004TQGEM4
There are a lot of interesting things in that book, maybe because in 1910 there was a lot less history to gloss over than there was 70 or so years later.
Might be a good thing to pick up!
Thanks for the tip. I might read it myself... even in college we skipped over tons of stuff thats useful to know now in favor of the big wars and inventors and whatnot.
My new hobby is finding out how people lived before technology was a thing. What did they eat? How did they source it? How did my great grandmother make it through the great depression and manage to have 6 kids of her own with no income...
I guess they call it homesteading these days.
I have been reading a chapter or so right before bed, and I also picked up "A Patriot's History of the United States" for myself for Christmas. I'll start tackling that once I'm done with this 1910 book.
The kindle history book also has questions at the end of each chapter that seem really designed for conversation as opposed to one sentence answers.
It's also available for free on Project Gutenberg: https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/16960
That's a great site in general if you are looking for older public domain works.
Thanks for this!
Set up conservative social gatherings in the neighborhood to get the social aspect. I will crawl over hot coals and broken glass naked to get my kids to school that isn't a public indoctrination camp.
Look for homeschool groups and co-ops in your area. Everywhere I've homeschooled my kids the parents are always getting together to hang out and let the kids party. Cause they can. It's your schedule, you can decide how long it goes and what you'll do before and after. Sure, they might miss out on some of the "rites of passage" like getting milk cartons thrown at them and stumbling across kids tik-toking each other giving BJs, but kids can grow into successful adults without all that.
Don't worry about the social aspect hon - that's what families and playdates are for.
We use Abeka homeschool. It's a Christian homeschool and the first class is Bible, but the first things we do everyday are say the pledge of allegiance and sing a patriotic song.
My kid could read after their preschool curriculum.
Homeschool is challenging but worth it.
I think homeschooling is a preferable option even to private school. Even though private schools aren't as deliberately indoctrinatory, they're still run & staffed by people plugged into this subversive culture.
Private schools still punish & recommend medication for boys being boys, for instance. They're plugged into the emasculated model culture has produced for the ideal male.
I was homeschooled. I’m a senior biologist today with no social issues. Just keep your kids involved in activities/sports. We’re homeschooling too now. :) cheers
Please let's start a online MAGA charter. Together we can do anything. Communication is key.
Are any Pedea out there in Fort Worth? We would love to start a homeschool group together.
RonPaulHomeSchool.com
We been homeschooling for 15 years. We have kids ages 6 to 20. Our kids are all patriots, including our teen daughters and sons. But homeschooling doesn't guarantee anything nowadays with tech and social media. Be picky with outside influences too, including church groups, sports, and online classes. Get to know the parents. If they are leftist or RINOs their kids likely will be too. Hillsdale College is good for online. So is Homeschool Connections for the most part. But best of all is if you can teach your kids with real books. If you have trouble connecting with your kids check out Teaching Self Government which is based off of the old Boys Town method. It works wonders. You can see it in action on the Worlds Strictest Parents show when the Peck family hosts two British out of control teens. Nicholeen Peck developed it after she was asked how she and her husband have transformed so many troubled foster children. The whole program they sell is expensive, but all you need is their book "A House United" and the free video series on being calm and teaching kids to be calm (as opposed to losing your calm w kids or allowing kids to get "triggered", which is too common nowadays bc so many of us weren't taught how to parent, or we are raising larger families than we were raised in)
How do you balance controlling your kids' tech usage & exposure with not being overly restrictive and unrealistic about preparing them for adulthood / the outside world?
You don't want the social values and interactions that a Marxist/Communist education system would provide.
Your kids will be far better off without all that.
Good choice. It must be hard, but it is definitely the right choice. One of the states most coveted resources are the children. You have hit them where it hurts.
I would say it depends on where you live. We live in rural PA and at this point, are comfortable with our public school. Our son's teacher has a dog named Remington, the school routinely has American pride themed days, and they don't seemed to have bought into to the whole PC agenda. We do take an active role with his learning though as well, as any parent that sends their kids to school should since there is so much that school doesn't teach. With that being said, I won't hesitate for a second to yank him if I feel he is being indoctrinated.
Homeschooling my oldest in 2nd grade right now. Has anyone read the Tuttle Twins books? They are supposed to be about civics and self reliance. I’ve seen advertisements and was curious if any pedes has any feedback on their material?
There may still be extracurricular activities at the local school that your child may still attend. Such as sports. It's a good way to socialize your child without the indoctrination.
Find other homeschoolers that love America and build your own classrooms in each others homes.
You might want to look into the cyber charter schools. That's how I graduated after I got kicked out of public and private schools (I had issues with authority). The one I did was Pennsylvania Distance Learning Charter School. They actually have field trips where kids can meet up and a big graduation ceremony at Penn State. It's not the same as having daily face to face interaction, but there isn't much of that these days anyway.
And whereabouts in PA are you? My youngest is 4. My wife and I would love to see him have some friends.
The smartest kids are going to be the homeschooled ones.
Their social ability will be as good or bad as you want it to be. If you are generally social and outgoing, that doesn't change when you homeschool, you actually have more chances to set up social interaction. If you make it a priority they will be better off
The good and the beautiful has a very easy to use curriculum although you don’t need much till kindergarten