Is it just me or should people like Flynn and the my pillow guy be strongly looked down on from here on out? Flynn went on Alex Jones' show the day before the 6th and said he was 10 out of 10 certain that Trump would get a second term. To me that's literally insane. He didn't say it was a coin toss. He could've at least said he was 9 out of 10, leaving some room for 'the plan' (whatever the hell it was supposed to be) not working. But he said 10 out of 10.
It makes me wonder how a person with judgement that shitty even got to be a general in the first place, and that's scary to think about. He mentioned one possibility on the 6th being Pence does something that buys them 10 more days. But it was a big IF that Pence could've or would've pulled that off. Back before the 6th nobody knew what was going to happen, apparently not even Trump (as evidenced by his speech on the 6th). And even if he had done it, what's 10 more days? We had 60 days to flip ONE state, and still hadn't.
It seems really irresponsible of him to say that shit and get people's hopes up, to me. Unforgivably so. How could he have been so careless? He said things that just poured gas on the fire for people who are more and more detached from reality, living in a fantasy world that Trump uses the military or who knows what. It sucks that Biden is going to be inaugurated, but what's the point of getting people's hopes up for them to be dashed on the 20th?
Then AFTER the 6th and Pence just counted the Biden electors, Lindell makes a video still saying the same thing, Trump will still remain president. Does this guy like making money? Because what's going to happen after the 20th when everyone sees that he was selling false hope? What's going to happen to his business then? He could've just said 'we still support Trump and think the election was stolen" and he still would've sold pillows. I for one won't want to buy shit from that guy when it turns out he was essentially lying to everyone.
What explains these guys? I'm not even bringing Lin Wood into this because fuck that guy, he's not even worth talking about. But Flynn was a general and Lindell a popular businessman who was publicly known as a buddy to Trump. Why did these two lay so much on the line and sabotage their own images this way? Does anyone have any takes on this that could explain it? And have either of them said anything more recently admitting they were wrong?
Fair weather MAGA was never MAGA to begin with.
if your son had a little league baseball game, and the other team cheated on the field but the umpire called it in their favor, and everyone knew that that umpire was related to the coach of the opposing team and favored them, and saw the play was a cheat but let them get away with it, and that play ended up costing your son's team the game, would it mean you don't support your son's team or that you don't love your son if you said to him "sorry billy but your team doesn't get to go to the championship game this year"?
no, and you fucking morons don't apply this stupid type of logic to ANYTHING ELSE in your lives, ONLY to trump. in your retarded child like minds, someone just simply acknowledging the shitty reality that they successfully stole the presidency and are getting away with it, means that that person is somehow bad or evil. i can't fathom how fucking stupid you have to be to think that way. and again, you know it's stupid because you or any of the other people using that type of logic don't apply it anywhere else in life. you don't attack the messenger in any other case, for bringing or acknowledging bad news. only here and for this one thing do your brains just switch off completely.
Don't worry you'll catch up with the rest of us soon.
you have nothing to say or you would've addressed my point about how your brains have melted and you're using shit-tier non logic.
Cool story bro. Does it make you feel superior to insult people on the internet?
I'm not going to do your research for you. Clearly you haven't put the time in. Just wait six more days and you'll have your answers.
i gave a simple analogy about the kind of logic you people are using and you can't address it.
and by the way dickhead, that analogy was in response to ME being 'insulted by someone on the internet'. someone claimed that i'm not maga simply because i can see that biden is about to be inaugurated. which as i've clearly demonstrated, is pisspoor logic. so go fuck yourself.
Well I'm sorry if you took it as an insult but I didn't mean it as one.
Patience is a virtue.
I have used my logic to come to a point where I have faith that Biden will not be the next president.
Q exists, but only your logic can convince you that it's real. You have to do the research yourself in order for you to trust that it's true. It's the way that it works.
https://greatawakening.win/p/11S0beta21/listen-to-daddy-trump-/c/
Biden will never be President.
Is Biden President right now? No? Then that means there is still time for these respected people to be right. Why are you so adamant they’re wrong?
I hope they are right, but so far they have made a lot of noise that has come to nothing. If it had been a Kraken, even the corrupt courts couldn't have dismissed cases so easily.
i think the obvious answer to this question, which anyone actually having a brain should've been able to see, was because biden had more than enough electors vote on him, which is what decides the presidency, and because the idea that trump was going to do a military intervention of some kind was just completely fucking stupid. and the idea that somehow he could've done one and it would've been actually kept secret even though it would have to involved hundreds of military types, some of whom are libs and would rat him out. only a major simpleton would've thought that was possible.
so i wonder if these 'respected people' have less of your respect now, for being monumentally wrong, or just flat out liars?
but you can't just compare them to us. both of them claimed to have insider info that we don't have. they presented themselves as if they were relaying factual inside info to us, letting us know to 'trust the plan' because they had seen it and KNEW it would work out in trump's favor. again, flynn said he was 10/10. only the legit crazy psychopaths around here have or still are saying anything like that. flynn was a general. nutcases should've never got to that high of a rank in anything let alone the military. you can't just wave this off.
Flynn absolutely claimed to have inside intel. He said over and over that Obama's biggest fears were N. Korea and Mike Flynn because he knows where all the bodies are buried. Flynn was supposed to expose the truth after we fought to help him get his pardon.
But instead he hyped us all up and deserted us on the battlefield
Flynn appears to be a jerk who used us!
Lindell made that video where he was on a plane and claiming to be going to some big meeting, I think with Flynn and others. The whole point of him saying that is to imply there is some kind of secret thing happening that will give Trump a second term and he was part of it or privy to it.
Flynn himself may not have specifically said he had insider info on Jones' show, but he said he was 10/10 sure Trump would be president. Considering his background as a general, he knew that people would take that to mean he knows something. And I'm positive he said other things to hint that he did. Both of these guys totally passed themselves off as being privy to something that will guarantee that Trump remains in office.
no but you can type flynn alex jones into google. should bring it up. or just go to infowars site. the lindell one might be a bit harder to find but it was posted here about a week ago a lot. many many times.
Answer: HOLD THE LINE
Get out of here troll.
Go back to r/politics
Under normal circumstances, the election fraud would have been prosecuted to the absolute fullest extent of the law. This time around, crickets,...
agreed. but why did flynn and lindell promise us trump would remain after months of countless judges openly showing they don't care about any of the evidence? and with only a couple of weeks left?
Absolutely nothing is adding up, and that is to be expected.
This is an INFOWAR. Nothing is real. We are in a movie right now.
Flynn and Lindell know the real deal and are working to make sure you turn to God and turn to Law and Order before anything else. They are lions crying out in the desert, it is up to you to take or leave the message of hope.
My gut tells me that Lindell is gonna be a senator after all this is over. Flynn might be VP or Secretary of Defense. Pence will simply disappear (he might be a double-triple quadruple agent).
No matter what happens, keep asking yourself this question:
He is gonna use them, and it will all happen at once. There ain't no plan about it; it is already done. He gave them every opportunity to come clean and elect him for a reduced sentence and they spat in his helping hand. Now comes the time he rubs their filth in their faces.
when or let's say if biden is inaugurated on the 20th, will you reassess your own judgemental ability? will say to yourself 'gee i thought all kinds of crazy shit would prevent this, but it didn't happen... maybe i'm just crazy'?
because you seem to firmly, absolutely believe that, i guess you're talking about the 'military option' correct? the one where trump would need hundreds if not thousands of people in the military to back him? are you aware that there are liberals all over the military? have you ever thought about this? here's a thought for you since you clearly haven't- do you think it's at all possible to organize hundreds/thousands of military types without ONE liberal catching wind of the plan?
i don't need to explain to you what would happen once the first liberal caught wind, do i? they'd run to.. who? that's right, the media, the police, congress, everyone. "trump's trying to steal the white house!"
so you tell me how trump organizes something like this without ONE liberal ranking officer or even simply rank and file soldier, ever finding out. they'd all have to be 100% trump supporters. hell how do you even hand pick all those people without a general (they all seem to be libs, how many of them have stabbed trump in the back again?) seeing that something is going on?
please explain how you think this is remotely possible to do something like that and keep it secret from liberals who are also all over the military. i'll wait.
Rank and file soldiers don't need to know what the op is, just the orders.
They don't need the military to come in either, that's just posturing. The name of the game in modern war is strike teams.
"Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" is the belief that you can trust your enemy to betray you but you can't trust your friend not to. Trump intentionally surrounded himself with known traitors and enemies in order to eliminate variables. If you know this guy will betray you, then you can plan ahead for that event.
Any and all spies or turncoats are already known because Trump intentionally put them in those positions and fed them BS info. With so many people reporting back to the Left hivemind with conflicting intel, even if they were told the real plan it would just be lost among the 100 other plans different plants were given. This plays on the idea that being overt can sometimes be covert.
I'm also expecting Biden to be "inaugurated". More than likely they've already recorded the event since it is gonna be virtual. Biden could have died last week and we wouldn't even know it. They'll play the tape regardless of what occurs in reality because they are that desperate.
They are desperate enough to siege the congressional building with Antifa infiltrators posing as Trump Supporters, then they are desperate enough to do just about anything at this point. If you know you will have House, Senate, and Presidency, you don't need to do these big false flags right now. It can wait until after inauguration to frame Trump supporters as terrorists. Why do it now!?
Trump won on Nov 3rd. Not just the election, but the Nation. All they had to do was NOT steal the election and they would have been able to win later. They got greedy and impatient and fell right into a big fat trap. Every moment since then Trump has been offering them chances to come clean in the courts, legislatures, electoral college, and in media. They chose to go down with the sinking ship.
Like a toddler having a temper tantrum, the parent only has to wait until the child wears themselves out. The Left are currently using every trick they have, and they wouldn't be doing that if they think they won.
oh ok so you're one of those people who literally is going to believe that trump is ACTUALLY president, even after biden gets inaugurated. i see. makes perfect sense.
In Mike Lindells defense, I think some of those videos you're talking about were recorded before the 6th. I think Flynn, Sidney Powell, Mike Lindell and Patrick Byrne were all working together on trying to expose this, because they all had the same talking points. I really hope they weren't larping just to make some money. We need to keep an eye on where the money from that fund that Sidney Powell set up is going. She's probably going to need it for her defense now that Dominion is sueing the shit out of her. The tell will be if they keep fighting to expose the fraud or just go radio silent.
i thought the video with him on the plane was done on the 8th? and if it was their own plan, then that just makes it even worse that they both told us they were 100% sure it would work. what the actual fuck could THEY have done, when trump himself was powerless.
they both heavily implied they were privy to something trump was doing, that they had inside info about a plan of trump's. and they both deemed it to be 100% sure thing, and they both seem to have been clearly wrong. i can't imagine how someone could just be that wrong, especially not a general who is supposed to expect the unexpected, supposed to figure out and be aware all the ways a plan CAN and WILL go wrong. but he said 10 out of 10.
they either lied to us to bring themselves attention so they could sell books or whatever, or they have abysmal judgement. i can't see any other possibility.
You're one of these idiots that leave the movie before the end of the show - and then demand your money back because you didn't like the outcome like you expected!
just want to point out that i'm going to be ignoring all you lost fools who are still clinging on to the idea that trump just magically remains president. you're not worth my time or effort dealing with. and i know you types are incapable of ever admitting you were wrong. you'll still continue living in a shared delusion even after biden is inaugurated. you'll probably say some retarded shit like trump still IS secretly the president, he cut some kind of deal allowing biden to appear as president but it's only a front. but i do know 100% you'll never admit your fairy tale fantasies were bullshit and you were idiots for believing them this long.
In all honesty, it is not a stretch to claim that Trump will remain President post-January 20. I have reviewed enough of the information relating to voting fraud to conclude that Joe Biden did not win the Nov. 3 election. I fully understand the USA Government's desire to put the election fraud issue to rest; failure to do so will lead to a destruction of their power.
On the other hand, the USA Citizens are left with serious questions relating to their role in the Republic. Anyone of voting age is mature enough to realize that a vote audit would have been harmless and in fact gone a long way in restoring confidence. Unfortunately, an unelected government of DS actors and various media made the decision to sweep election fraud facts under the rug. US Citizens are left with a festering wound that will likely infect the entire Republic. Bad Times Ahead.
it is a stretch. just knowing something doesn't stop biden from taking office. it is on track to happen. unless you think god himself comes down and forces something, it's going to happen. it's a stretch. if trump were going to use military tribunals, why wait until i guess right up to inauguration day? just like the other court battles, they did those earlier so there'd be enough time. so why wouldn't he have rolled that out already?
I suppose my point is that is one thing to CLAIM something and another thing to have something RECOGNIZED. It is obviously clear that election fraud of monumental proportions occurred. Trump was victorious on Nov. 3. The problem is that the USA Government (including various media, judicial authorities and intel agencies) refused to recognize the fact that election fraud existed. I believe this entire episode is a wake-up call for the USA Citizens which will not end well for the bloated USA Government. Trump is likely to accomplish more good for USA Citizen freedom as a USA Citizen than he ever could as the elected president.
As far as military tribunals are concerned, it is not going to happen this time around. These folks that are drawing paychecks from the Govt coffers are not going to place themselves in a position of losing their perceived power. No way. The presidency is nothing more than a figure-head and we as USA Citizens should always remember that. We need to be wary of the Obama-type false messiahs that want to make it a position of making public policy.
now you're saying who's president doesn't matter? and that trump won't be president? but you literally just said: "In all honesty, it is not a stretch to claim that Trump will remain President post-January 20."
Needed to be said.
I get holding out hope in November and I get wanting to follow Rule 1, but some of what is being said is over the top incredible.
rule 1- being a trump supporter, in no way contradicts admitting they got away with stealing the election. the two things have nothing to do with each other. thinking they somehow do is the biggest, stupidest, broken ass logic mistake so many people here have been making since november.
it's the saying 'don't shoot the messenger', and a huge huge portion of trump supporters have no fucking concept of that age old adage. well, they do, because they, like normal people, typically live their lives by it. i guarantee you none of these absolute psychos go to a doctor, and cuss him out for giving them bad news. 'your leg is broken in 4 place' 'oh yeah? well FUCK YOU DOOMER'
because they know that would be retarded. but yet for SOME reason, they DO use this exact kind of broken ass, busted ass, child minded idiotic non-logic, in this case, and this case only.
either you BELIEVE trump is going to be president on the 21st, or you're a bad guy!
NO. i'm not. and anyone who thinks like that is a complete fucking mental midget. look people, i'm sorry biden stealing the election and getting away with it has completely shattered your brains. but not mine. you're the ones with the problem, not me (and i'm not talking about you, sistercovfefe, but this shit is driving me crazy).
I understand your frustration. I'm in the same boat.
We should look down on Patriots now? No, it's just you, hypocrite.
thanks for not addressing one damn point i made. like how they pretended to have insider info and clearly didn't. which means they lied and got everyones hopes up for nothing.
i mean i'm just not sure how 'patriotic' it is to sell false hope to trump supporters in the form of... lies? either they had inside info that showed them that trump was GUARANTEED a trump victory, or they didn't. but they definitely strongly insinuated that they did.
Flynn explicitly stated that several friendly countries had provided intelligence clearly exposing the dominion fraud. We will know by January 20th whether or not that was a false statement.
The problem may be that they have all that clear info, even from foreign intel, and the Congress is just refusing to do anything about it, or the courts will. Perhaps Flynn and Lindell didn't expect this level of pure corruption from the justice system and thought they had a slam dunk situation, but now are finding out no evidence in the world will work because a large group of very evil scumbags is in control of every facet of this country and they are determined to keep Trump out of the Oval Office.
Perhaps your assessment is correct; however that particular viewpoint leads to the conclusion that Flynn is a coward. Honestly, if Biden is sworn in on Jan. 20, it is difficult for me to get past the fact that Trump (and all of his various mouthpieces) is either a coward or a liar. A coward if he has the goods but refuses to cross the rubicon for fear of personal destruction. A liar if he doesn't have the goods that he, and his minions, claimed. I am sure there are those who will chime in with their conjecture about how it is all part of some grand plan.
courts couldn't even do something fast enough if they waited, for some reason, until the 20th to reveal this amazing evidence. things take time. why would trump's team have just sat on this big MOAB of evidence and hold it all the way up until the 20th? it makes no sense. lawsuits take days to months to unfold. on the 20th biden gets inaugurated. you aren't going to get a court to un-inaugurate biden once that's happened. that will never, ever happen.
and that explanation doesn't clear flynn/lindell for that reason. they made those statements RECENTLY. as in, when there's already not enough time. courts had already shown us that they will not hear any evidence, no matter what it is. how the fuck does flynn say he's 10 out of 10 after how many examples of courts clearly demonstrating they don't give a shit? there's no simple explanation for what flynn said that just involves the bad guys outsmarting his 10 out of 10 certainty which was given on the 11th hour. more like 11:58
ok but you do understand that even with proof of something like that, you still have to go through some kind of legal process to actually do something. which takes time. days. and on the 20th, there are no more of those 'day' things left. because that's the day biden takes over.
I am an attorney, so yes, I understand when a legal process is necessary. Flynn's statements clearly described a situation which would not fall under the jurisdiction of US Civil/Criminal Courts. Flynn described an act of war which should have been addressed by military tribunals.
To be clear, I am of the opinion that the amount of voter fraud we witnessed amount to a declaration of war against the citizens of the USA. Unfortunately, USA Citizens are not equal to the USA Government (anymore) and the USA Government are the aggressor against the USA Citizens specifically in this election fraud fiasco. See the problem?
the problem is flynn lied when he said he was 10 out of 10 sure that whatever the plain is would guarantee a trump victory. either that or he has horrible judgement and never should've been a general.
since you're an attorney maybe you can explain to me why this 'military tribunal' plan requires waiting until the day of inauguration? see because, the other court cases, they used the strategy called 'bringing them in a timely manner since this is a time sensitive issue with a deadline'. but apparently military tribunals.. i don't know... what? maybe they exist in a dimension outside of time and space? how does that work?
also could you explain how none of the many many liberals who populate the military, from all the way down to grunts, all the way up to officials (where they seem to dominate), that not any of them have leaked this plan that would require massive amounts of time, preparation, and organization? magic? the first lefty in the military who saw what was going on would run to the media/police/congress and tell everyone that trump was trying to stay in office forever as a dictator by using the military. hell there'd probably even be some trump supporters who'd be uneasy about him trying to use the military. it's a pretty fucking drastic measure and could completely destroy our political system. how do you ever just go back to 4 year elections when a president just said 'naw fuck that dog look at my tanks over here'
a) ok but again, Flynn said 10 out of 10. he was a general. and that was his judgement. should anyone with such poor judgement have ever been a general? if some bad guy just foiled their plan on the 6th, how did that just completely blindside a respected general? or how did the respected general FAIL to see that possibility? even trump himself didn't seem sure of what pence would do on the 6th, but flynn said 10 out of 10. shit judgement? terrible horrible judgement? how was he a general?
b) lindell said he was certain trump would be president on that video on the plane, i think that was after the 6th right? so why would he be so certain about it AFTER their best plan was already foiled and now they're on plan B which is uncertain?
face it, these guys lied to us and sold us false hope. for some reason.
They probably don't know much anyways. They probably have a feeling. I am sure they have good intentions. I love MyPillow. Only pillows in my home. Support America!🇺🇲
i guess you don't remember how they said those statements? they didn't say it was a feeling. lindell claimed to be on his way to a meeting. he pretended to 'know something' we don't know and guaranteed us trump would remain. he didn't say 'maybe'. he said he knew. same with flynn, he said he was 10 out of 10.
you can't just easily dismiss that as feelings. they claimed to have inside info. if they really didn't, the only possible reality is they were lying.
If thwy did have inside information, they wouldn't be allowed to speak about it. If every knew, then it would be blocked. We have to wait and see what happens. I won't discredit them, until they speak again.
What explains them saying BS things? Likely 1 or 2 things: -They are fed wrong info -They like the attention
Same as everyone else. See: Adam Schiff
yeah the fed wrong info thing seems like a possibility. the attention thing also, but i would think that's the more insane possibility. because saying those things would get you short term attention but in just a few weeks everyone would see that you were full of shit and it should rightfully tarnish their names if and when biden is inaugurated. why risk that for short term attention?
so if they were fed bad info who fed it to them and why? seems like they would've got it from trump himself.
You know - it can mean virtually anything. Maybe something very significant changed, like a key person turned out to be a traitor and the enemy had all of our plans. Maybe we just need to wait another week to see it play out.
but flynn said he was 10 out of 10 sure. so he didn't account for this possibility that a bad guy got the plans and wrecked the whole scheme? he was a general FFS. aren't they supposed to take everything into consideration? should he have ever been a general if he could be THAT wrong?
Sadly, Flynn appears to be a big liar. Not only about Trump's chances but he said he Obama was scared of him and led us all to believe he had inside info on the deep state that he would expose once he got his pardon.
Welp, we busted our asses to help him clear his name and now he's nowhere to be found.
He really pisses me off!
You are either the source or the target.. in this case, you are on someone's cross hairs
shut the fuck up you fucking moron. don't make vague fucking threats at me bitch.
They have to inaugurate Biden for them to be able to Convict a falsehood presidency
Pillow guy has no worries, it’s win/win for him when goes into politics.
Flynn, was he promising the President more then he had ??
how is my pillow guy going to win in politics when he promised millions of trump supporters that trump definitely WOULD remain as president, and then is shown to be a complete fraud when that doesn't happen? are people just going to forget that he lied to them?
and flynn didn't ever say he had his own plan that would guarantee trump a victory. he went on jones and strongly insinuated that trump himself had some kind of plan and that would 10 out of 10 guarantee trump remains. so how was flynn ever a general when he could have judgement that shitty? he left no room at all for the possibility of a biden presidency. aren't generals supposed to take everything into consideration?