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JeremiahKassin 3 points ago +5 / -2

It wouldn't have to be a war. If Quebec voted to leave Canada, it would leave. The UK just voted to leave the EU, and they're just leaving. If Scotland voted to leave the UK, they would leave. The Atom bomb changes things. If the South had had it, things may have turned out very differently.

Also, what makes you so certain the soldiers in the US army wouldn't defect?

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BEBOLDlikeTheLION 1 point ago +4 / -3

Because they would be rounded up and shot by a firing squad.

America is full blown communism now.

They won't allow anyone to leave .

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JeremiahKassin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then they fire the first shot, and it will be war. But we have to try something, and if we fire first, we lose the propaganda war before it even begins. You might be willing to lay down and die, but if I'm standing in my own grave, I'm going to fight like a lion with my last remaining breath. And right now the fight with the best chance of winning is secession.

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BEBOLDlikeTheLION 1 point ago +1 / -0

Go head and think succeeding will save you, if it happens and I highly doubt it, china and the usa would slaughter a state like Texas in a week or less .

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JeremiahKassin 1 point ago +1 / -0

Not with nukes.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Who would do the rounding up? More likely the commanders ordering such bs would be killed by their own troops.

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LibertarianXian 0 points ago +1 / -1

If I recall correctly from talking with canucks, there was a referendum already and the rest of Canada said, OK fine Quebec just pay up your debt and we'll let you go.

Lots of arrogant French gestures were made and Montreal is still in Canada.

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JeremiahKassin 2 points ago +2 / -0

This is a different situation entirely. Quebec wanted to secede for cultural reasons. We would be seceding to save our liberty and lives.

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LibertarianXian 1 point ago +1 / -0

True and I don't think DC will be amenable to any kind of discussion even if it was just cultural reasons.

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JeremiahKassin 1 point ago +1 / -0

They won't have any say in the matter. We form a new government, gain recognition from Russia, Mexico and Brazil right away, stop sending our Taxes in, nationalize any foreign occupied land, and take the military bases. We'll have men on our side, if we gain enough momentum. Unless Trump pulls a miracle out of his pocket in the next week, they're going to try to execute us. If we don't do something, they will succeed. I'd rather live free on a postage stamp than die a slave in a concentration camp!