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ListenCarefully [S] -5 points ago +1 / -6

May it never be! Rather, let God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written, “That You may be justified in Your words, And prevail when You are judged.” — Romans 3:4

His words on the topic are all that matter, the opinions and philosophies of men don't deserve the trust of anyone.

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mimefortheblind 3 points ago +3 / -0

Here's the problem that is obvious to everyone else: It's not "his words" it's "your filter".

I never met him but in my youth I knew people who knew David Koresh. You sound a lot like him. Normal people in real religions have some buffer between what the religion teaches them and what they imagine to be true. It's keeps them on an even keel and prevents them from going on the internet and proclaiming that they have the one true inside dope and everyone else going to hell.

This is why there are no Methodist suicide bombers or Lutheran terrorist cells.

Now, Christians DO believe in a concept called the "scandal of particularity" which holds the Jesus is the only way to be saved. But in Christianity, this is an occasion for great humility and a desire to love one's neighbor not an excuse to get rowdy on the internet.

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ListenCarefully [S] -2 points ago +1 / -3

I don't see a verse anywhere.

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mimefortheblind 2 points ago +2 / -0

Let's go very, very, slowly.... I don't actually disagree with you. At least not in the most technical sense. Your methodology for getting there is dangerous. Starting this fight here is an embarrassment. Those are my concerns.

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ListenCarefully [S] -2 points ago +1 / -3

If a lump of clay had the ability to shape itself then we could say free will exists, but clay doesn't budge, unless it is in the hands of the potter. Have you never read:

There is no one who calls on Your name, Who arouses himself to take hold of You; For You have hidden Your face from us And have delivered us into the power of our iniquities. But now, O Lord, You are our Father, We are the clay, and You our potter; And all of us are the work of Your hand. — Isaiah 64:7-8