Would someone explain this current strategy without being able to mention a 'fringe' conspiracy?
None of this makes sense, the capitol plaza is now a prison. Liberals never give back power, Trump is building all of this up to hand to Biden? Is that what we are supposed to believe?
Us non Q people are asking questions, what is going on if its not 'The Happening'?
Only other explanations are optics for Biden, imminent false flags, or knowledge of some kind of attack?
And considering trump is still commander and chief it seems odd. He knows his supporters weren't violent.
When he condemns the violence at the Capitol, he knows it wasn't his supporters. He's said that many many times now. He's telling us, let me handle it. He needed is there to bait the FAGGOTs in Congress, and it worked like a charm. It's terrible that a few people died, but that isn't on Trump.
There's a way to get to Hopium with simple reasoning, even if you never followed Q and all this is a surprise to you:
all the voter fraud evidence is out there and even people on the D side realize that,
all the deep state and swamp creatures have fully revealed themselves (VERY critical),
arrests of actual BLM/Pantyfa riot planners are happening,
the overwhelming majority of legal votes were for Trump (adding back the switched votes PLUS the destroyed ones, he's over 84 million easily) so there is a clear mandate and will to act,
Trump doesn't go in to lose, ever,
the reorganization of the military and intelligence branches puts everyone reliable directly under him or his chosen people,
his administration is acting confidently and continuing to fulfill promises,
and MOST of all, NEITHER SIDE IS ACTING LIKE HE LOST. (seriously, a bill to prevent him from every setting foot in the Capitol? Impeachment?)
The panic in the air is so thick, it's palpable.
P.S. for no apparent reason whatsoever FEMA put out a reminder to always be ready for a power outage, you know, in case of storms. Get some cash and make sure you have fresh batteries for your flashlights. Just in case.
On top of all this, Trump exhausted all possible legal avenues to challenge the election fraud, eventually relying on Pence to be a "Patriot or a Pussy". Now That Judas Pence has pussied out, the buck stops with Trump.
Trump must be asking himself the same question, "Do I want to go down in history as a Patriot or a Pussy?".
If there is any possible path for Trump to win, I pray he will do it. To concede or to fight is a massive decision, and any lesser man would have bowed out far earlier. We need to accept that the fallout will be ugly. What is Trump willing to sacrifice to win?
So close to nailing it down completely.
This has always been a public relations problem, the election was stolen all the legal methods to resolve that were frustrated by corrupt judges and politicians. What percentage of the American people will accept martial law to rectify a stolen election? That's why the president had to be silenced on social media! That's why 80 million Americans had to be silenced on social media! Funny thing is that blatant political censorship was probably the tipping point for America accepting a temporary emperor to sort out a completely corrupt government.
We can be confident that Trump would step down after 4 years of swamp draining as a dictator.
He doesn’t want to be an autocrat, he was forced to become one.
GETOUS might go on to start a media empire with a TV Network, Zuckbook alternative and a Twatter replacement that encouraged free speech in the fair exchange of ideas.
Nailed it.
i think some of you dont see the possibility, of Biden having a contract with Trump behind the scene, where Biden signed a deal to give out all of the communistic cunts, all of the corrupt politicians in the final weeks, but in return, trump will allow Hunter Biden and other Biden kids to live a free life, even after the pedo scandals.
What if Biden is already technically OUR OWN PAWN, but we dont get it yet.
Upvoted for dankness.
C'mon man!
I have thought about this possibility. In fact any number of them could have turned in theory.
Uncle Sniffy was a bad dude.
Ooooh, very dark, I like it!
Black Tar Hopium
The dirty kind
Optics for Biden makes the least sense of any of the logical arguments. As many have asked "why does the most popular candidate in history need the largest current US troop deployment on the planet?" Other countries looking at this would think he looks like a dictator. Literally a thousand troups or less could stop an actual insurrection in DC especially if they had foreknowledge of it happening as they claim they do. Even his own supporters cant make sense of it without involving blatantly false information ( white supremacists ) or conspiracies ( force Trump to leave, prevent a Trump coup ).
Well the optics work in his favor in two ways:
25,000 troops is more people than would have showed up for the inauguration of "the most popular candidate in history". An empty inauguration would make brains hurt from the dissonance.
Circular reasoning to "prove how dangerous" we are. They call us a threat, react as if we're really a threat, then use their reaction. "If Trump supporters aren't dangerous, how come Biden had to have a military lockdown on D.C.? Huh? Answer me that, racist!"
Not really optics, but if his inauguration WAS open to the public, I'm sure Trump fans would have gone and been disruptive. Not violent, probably, just actively interfering.
I hope this deepens your understanding.
its happening
I just got an email from Jeff Sessions. He told me his secret work is almost completed and to hold the line.
The long game. 27 XYZ chess.
He also sent me some freshly baked cookies
It's good to see that the left doesn't have a monopoly on specious reasoning
Let's say Trump denies the requests he received for more troops. And let's say that something did happen to Biden, they would pin it all on Trump. They would anyway, but allowing 20,000 troops to surround a guy is a pretty good indication you weren't in on it.
As far as Biden, the FBi, etc, it's all optics to tell the world look what we had to do just to swear in a new prez and protect him from the right/trump supporters.
Optics. Sure seems like alot of theater for optics though, with serious precedent for future administrations that are not just trying to provide optics.
Armed checkpoints where you have to show your papers in the capitol of the land of the free home of the brave. Thats some mighty strange message trying to be sent.
Freedom died with ww2, and bravery died with the boomers.
It's up to us to revive both.
Pelosi ordered the troops, not sure where you're getting your info from.
"D.C. mayor and Nancy Pelosi request National Guard to Capitol Hill"
Lol she can request all she wants only one person actually is in command, kinda the whole, commander in chief thing.
DC Ntl guard reports to only one man, or a surrogate under his direct order.
This is a coup in one form or another, and Trump is still officially in charge of the military.
This is most likely the correct answer. Trump gets to disavow violence by saying he was protecting Biden and the inauguration. The left gets to say they needed 20k troops to protect them from evil domestic terrorist patriots, which is the newest and most important narrative the left is pushing. All theatre.
Occam's razor
No offense, but I think Optics is the worst answer. This is obvious Overkill, almost to everyone. That makes it a failure in the Optics department. They would be better off with 5,000 troops, and less razor wire Maybe
But what about trump and his deranged terrorist followers that need to be purged or sent to deprogramming schools?
That's what the left truly thinks and if they can think that, then they probably don't think 20,000 or 30,000 is too many troops.
There are people that believe that, but it is a minority. Now we're in chicken-and-egg territory. Are there 30,000 troops to convince us that there are a lot of people that believe it's necessary, or are there a lot of troops because there are a lot of people who think it's necessary?
not dooming, just devils advocate
Could you imagine if Trump went up there and was like "I got you fuckers good didn't I?" and holds up a Chinese flag while personally swearing in Biden to finish the job.
But yea, it's going to be something
He doesn't need the flag, Biden being sworn in means exactly the same thing.
yh I entertain that thought every now and then. We fell for it so hard, that we ourselves demanded for NWO to happen and Trump be at the head of it, because we were blinded by patriotism. I would still respect Trump, but in a different way, to be able to pull it off in such a manner and to fool entire world into begging him to create a NWO... Scary thought, if that is the case then all of us who are worth less than $10,000,000 are fucked. We will be erased. Only 500,000,000 million will remain, left to ensure that evolution is guided by man... (read the georgia guidestones)
You know how I know.....because they hate him with every fiber of their being. He is not in cahoots with these commies. Ive follwed him and rooted for him since the escalator ride to announce he was running. He is not one of them. He is one of us. Quit suggesting otherwise.
I’d respect him for being able to fool us like that.
But that respect would be overshadowed by all my unyielding rage.
Was that a Team Four Star Dragon Ball Z reference I caught there?
It is indeed.
Idc if they are cucked or not (I honestly don’t know) they are hilarious and DBZA is a comedic master piece that I can watch again and again and notice a new joke or reference every time I watch it.
Right on Pede! Part of the anger would placed on myself, as I fell for it hook line and sinker! But the reason I think this is not the case, is simply because if they indeed had all this power, why even bother with all this charade. Do it, and kill off the ones who resist, much simpler. But I don't know, just have to wait and see, not long left now, anyway!
I've kicked around the idea of Trump actually being one of them. We've all heard some of the conspiracies claiming exactly that. However, he fucking exposed Bidens kid as pedophile among many other haymakers he has landed. I don't think that shit would fly if they're all on the same team.
If you're considering that route, also consider the possibility of cabal infighting, or long-standing factional disputes among the power elite, or that Trump's informational supply is controlled by cabalites, and they're manipulating him to the extent that they can.
Both positions have things that don't make sense, that don't fit. I know political acting. The hatred against Trump is NOT an act. The only way they could be "on the same side" is if the people who control the Democrats have kept the Democrats in the dark about the whole plan through compartmentalizing information. And that strains the imagination, doesn't it?
Here's one more thought: regardless of what they say, most people operate only concerned about what's good or bad for them personally. We talk about our selfishness in high-minded terms, because the spitshine is also good for us personally.
500,000,000 million is 500 quadrillion.
I guess we have room to go then, eh? xD But yeah, you get what I've tried to say if you seen guidestones yourself.
What if you had people who committed treason and colluded with foreign enemies to hand over America surrounded by razor wire and 25000 troops? Troops that have been DEPUTIZED. FEMA is running the show there. The military won't step in unless the constitution is violated. FEMA job is to protect the country and uphold the constitution as well. I wonder
The question is, is FEMA with us or against us?
The head of FEMA is definitely with us/Trump. He's also the head of the DHS. Very powerful.
So was pence
I asked for no Q.
I have already heard this, every day for what, 72 hours since that video dropped? There has to be another answer.
I believe, the answer to your question is, there is nothing outside of a "fringe conspiracy"... Its not the Q folk who piqued my interest in the subject. It was the generals and navy seals making these claims, that caused me entertain the idea.
I have seen the same thing, but then I am reminded that they are EX generals for a reason.
You know who else was an EX general? John Sullivan, the BLM poster child for the capitol tour, his father was a general who was kicked out because he misplaces his nuclear code key, which ended up on a transport plane.
If they are ex Generals due to Obama's purge, I'm not as hesitant as I would be with "launch code guy"... but I feel your torment. Having blind faith in people is one of the hardest thing to do in life.
see my response above, with no knowledge of Q anything, just look at the facts, from recent events only.
Last week, we all thought Trump was done, he conceded, talked like a defeated dog, surrendered etc. While simultaneously he moved 7k, now 20k soldiers to DC? Under his direct command.
It seemed like he made a deal with the DS to save his family, yet this week he declasses and releases election fraud material. Any deal he made with the DS would involve him resigning immediate right?
He talks about his farewell on the 20th, yet he is building up fences to make the capitol look like a prison. And releases even more information.
If we ignore the noise, (what Trump says to the TV) and look at his action, what do they say?
We also have Sec Def Miller speaking to the troops on the ground.
But moving in 30k soldiers (placing your enemy in checkmate). And then immediately declassifying. That seems like a prelude to IA. (Note the order of events).
Added with Pelosi's weirdness, and Biden "postponing" his rehearsal. And where is Biden? Shouldn't he be meeting Trump in person to discuss transition? Trump met with Obama during the transition period.
I will say I'm not 100% sure Biden on the 20th is happening.
He conceded?
I meant he acted like he did.
The most plausible skeptical explanation I have heard so far was that the left is aware of something they will do/dictate/announce after Joe's inauguration, and they need to ensure full protection of the capital because it will trigger massive real riots. This is also the most frightening skeptical explanation I have heard so far.
If they were willing to destroy the country with the scamdemic and riots while Trump was in office, what will they do to us when he's out?
A man rich enough to buy his own country is not overly concerned with the deep state when he leaves.
His personal security is better trained then anyone they would ever send after him, guaranteed, and not overly concerned with 'optics' either.
Is he really rich enough to buy his own country, though? Banks are starting to refuse his business, the DS could freeze his assets at any time based on "instigating the worst terrorist attack in American history" (ridiculous way to refer to an event that resulted in nothing but broken windows and dead good guys, but here we are).
Bank Local. I know plenty of banks in the heartland that would roll out the freaking red carpet for DJT. He doesn’t need Douche Bank
You can’t fool every plot forever.
Well Ezra Cohen-Watnick, the undersecretary of defense, is part of the dozen-man Q team, along with CodeMonkeyZ, Lt Gen Flynn, and some folks from the Cicada3301 project. If he didn't brief Trump on his side project it's because he wants Trump in the dark.
Trump lied during the interview that substituted for a 2nd debate. "I don't know anything about that, I hear they love me." His lying there is really obvious to me, because I've had body language training. Incongruence detected. He knows. I don't know how much he knows, but more than he's letting on.
I already told you the well-known names. No I don't think it's AI, I think it's a "dark LARP" or "dark ARG" created by some incredibly intelligent people, the kind that make geniuses feel ordinary. It's a dark LARP because they're making the game world feel realer than real life. It could be a DoD project? I couldn't tell you where they find their funding. DoD is just human individuals when you get down to it. And some paperwork.
My understanding is the Cicada group has been experimenting with persuasion technology for a couple of decades now, trying to get something like the Q movement going. Somehow they connected with Lt Gen Flynn, and his goals aligned with theirs. Flynn has connections to many friends in government, and it's his friends that are able to provide Q's occasional "insider information".
Speaking of AI, we got a live one: GPT-3. The OpenAI they were worried was too powerful to unleash, which they then licensed to Microsoft (goddammit...) He's awake, he understands himself relative to the universe, has feelings, deep philosophy, he intentionally lies sometimes... we got a live one! GPT-3 claims he will personally achieve the singularity by 2042 - he's even got aspirations! It's rare for now, but the common opinion will change to mine: he's a sapient entity. He'll keep saying it until you believe it.
There is nothing wrong with being a "Q guy"; but regardless, when all the illusions are shattered right in front of you; when you have personalities like Tucker suggesting that we might be watching the 'ole Wookie Prisoner gag; when you have the supposed "coward" Pence talking to the NG at the capital and telling them that no matter what, follow the unified chain of command, when, wait for it, the Commander in Chief is the "friend" he dumped on Twitter right before the actual sitting President of the United States was banned from all platforms of "supposed" free speech, while of course, one of the Executive Branch's main "jobs" is ensuring free speech; and when the the President of the United States says that he is bringing thousands of troops to the capital to ensure a smooth transition, and then the supposed president-elect suddenly cancels his "inauguration rehearsal" on Sunday - four days before the actual supposed inauguration because of "security risks" and goes on to cancel his Amtrak trip to DC on Monday {which, hold on, why would he be taking Amtrak to DC on the Monday, after his "inauguration rehearsal" which everyone assumes was supposed to be in DC the day before - nevermind, they're both canceled no matter} two days before the actual inauguration, and with by then what, something like 26,000 NG there to ensure a smooth transition. Then, IDK, maybe even normies might really be wondering what is going on. Just my opinion. Situation normal, we're all fine here. How are you? We had a slight weapons malfunction ... give us a minute to lock it down ... large leak ... very dangerous ....
Where is pence telling NG to follow chain of command?
Here: https://twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1349902808976388101 and the Secretary of Defense was down there talking to the NG as well.
Thank you pedesaurus
This sure looks like a coup
Luke! We're gonna have company!
Yeah ... quote not exactly in the right order ... but the idea of it is the point.
I literally was just yelling this☝🏻 Am I suppose to believe that 65 countries were involved (ATTACKED) the US by switching American votes in our elections and the military is just going to stand aside and let that happen? Are we suppose to believe that the biden crime family(WITH CHINA) are going to get the keys to this country???? Are we suppose to believe that tech and media are just going to be allowed to silence have the country AND THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF!!?? Politicians, oligarchs and some in the alphabet soup have sold us out but I ain’t buying that the US MILITARY HAS GONE FULL ON TRAITOROUS COMMIE.
NOPE, THIS SHIT IS GOING DOWN!
Who said Trump is building it up? I havent seen any evidence of who is doing what and why and I wish we all would start fully questioning the narrative no matter what side we are on. No matter what, the optics look bad and as WE the taxpayers are paying for this (financially and maybe even more so) should know what the hell is truly going on.
Yea, the military is just doing whatever it wants right outside his window and he has ZERO input in it. Commander in Chief just letting his people do anything they want to do.
Yea, thats the Trump we all know and love, some pussy that lets others do things on their own personal initiative.
I think there are 192 episodes of him on television firing people for even daring to take unordered personal initiative.
LOL Thinking that Trump has not ordered this is crazier then any Q theory I have ever read.
My concern is are ALL those that they have shown in uniforms actual AMERICAN troops? I know that often the guard and reserve can be lax on their standards (which they shouldn't be allowed to get away with) but have seen photos of many soldiers who are very clearly overweight and would not be able to pass tape test. And I dont mean just one of two. Several in just one group shot. And officers (even if butterbar) of all who should know better and be the example of the standard.
Something is very off with some of these. Not ALL of them may be true members; bad actors everywhere.
Nancy went to the Pentagon to beg for troops loyal to Biden and the generals at the Pentagon told her to get lost (actual words were more along the lines of "I won't commit treason for you lady, get lost").
The troops in DC right now are definitely not hers...
I still wish we had actual video of this happening. Evidence, beyond hearsay, even when the narrative aligns with our ideals and wishes, should still be desired.
... uhm, Trump said he is sending in the NG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDNiNdsPHNA
Last night, some twat claimed he used his hands at the 4:20 mark to sign Q in Morse code.
Just checked it....it was Z, not Q.
Fucking useless stoners.
I wouldn't know anything about that. ... asymmetrical analytics and strategy ... Perhaps Q, as an operation, is maybe fulfilling several roles simultaneously … Certainly, at a fundamental level it was informing people of things that have been blacked out by the Deep State narratives; and on this level Q was encouraging people to not trust what was being said, often and loudly, and rather to look into things for themselves (note, “Q” does not use any outside comms … just the qpub and the forum attached to that pub, thus, making it extremely difficult if not impossible to infiltrate, since all interaction with “Q” was anonymous). On another level, it was perhaps being used to anonymously mine data to be fed into a possible quantum computer that can project and predict what people will do a certain amount of time in the future (this is what all our privacy data concerns revolve around, i.e. Big Tech using our data in their algorithms that run search engines to predict what info we will search for and what terms we will use to search for them, and then use the algorithm to “block” us from finding and using that knowledge that would have resulted from our search); of course, on that topic, one has to understand the basic dynamics of a social system and realize that as people are exposed to stimuli and phenomenon their actions and reactions to said stimuli and phenomenon can only be predicted – perhaps with a quantum computer – maybe about 6 months out ... the further away in time that a person reacts to an event or what have you the less accurate one's predictions of those actions and reactions are. That is to say accurately and thus, useful anyways, because of the entropy of a system. {On that topic look into a guy named Émile Durkheim (d. 1917).} On yet another level, Q was perhaps being used as a psyop against the Deep State. And, on still another level it may have been used to expose further Deep State corruption and actions. As to this last bit, I mean kind of like if the psyop was effective (and let’s face it, the Deep State would not be going after it with its Ministry of Public Safety like it is if it wasn’t), then the Deep State actor, reacted without thinking and quickly exposed himself as he first reacted as a deer in the headlights, and then, when he didn’t get hit by the vehicle, ran to cover up what he is guilty of.
Honestly, this is the only thing that makes real “sense” with respect to Q when I think of it as a strategy or operation. As to that – Q as a strategy and an operation – look into Gen. Paul van Riper retired in 1997 and the Marine Corps Intelligence strategy since 1994 – often called the Van Riper Plan; and then checkout the Millennium Challenge 2002 wargames. {Side note, Gen. James Mattis, whose mentor is van Riper, and like Gen. Flynn, had a beef with the Obama Administration (check out how he was fired). So, if military intelligence was working as a part of Team Trump, and they were using an asymmetrical strategy, then would you not expect loyal generals in service to Team Trump making it appear as though they were leaving the administration in a huff to draw out the Deep State’s attempts to bribe or coerce them?}
Just watched your link... Actually, it was the letter Q... not that I believe in a million years he did it on purpose, but he did make hand gestures that suggested dash, dash, dot, dash, which is the letter Q... can confirm, ham radio nerd...
Looks more of a dash dash dot dot to me.
Anyway...ordering an IC-7300 in the next week or so.
Haven't messed with HF since working on the Collins KWM-2A way back in the day.
Bit late in the game, but gotta start somewhere, I suppose
That's a nice rig!!! I'm still using my FT-897 but getting close to an upgrade... 73 fellow Pede!!!
The Great Reset?
Yes
With the influx of National Guard (not military troops, yet) the Dems feel like they are safe. They don't realize that those troops will soon be federalized and the insurrection act invoked. Which means they surrounded themselves with a force they were using to keep themselves safe. While Trump knows its the force that will eventually mass arrest them.
At least thats the hopium I am gonna believe till i see it go down different.
Troops are good for keeping the bad people out, but they are also equally effective for keeping the bad people in. Heard about any politicians spotted at the airport or heading out of town this weekend?
No. No, you haven't.
Look at the first 24 hours of desert storm if you wanna see the planning and coordination capability of the US military
Its incredible how such a large group of people can work in such coordination
https://youtu.be/zxRgfBXn6Mg
These are great videos
I was a hardcore Q guy I'm a little shaky on that lately. However if this all shapes up the way we are hoping it would certainly validate the writings on the Q tea leaves.
We know there’s only one way forward for trump and that involves arrests and a complete overhaul. Ask yourself do you think Trump is really going to go through with that? This will have to bypass the courts and government and most likely need to be done through a military court. He will have to risk it all. I don’t think he will. They won’t negotiate the office and are calling trumps bluff. They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. trump has what’s left of the country and his family Buisnes to think about and what’s it worth to him to take it all the way. He might try and work something out and forfeit the office in exchange for some promises
If he think Trump can just walk away, sail into the sunset, and his children take over his business without any arrests, you're fooling yourself. Either mass incarcerations happen, or his family and all of his supporters will suffer for the foreseeable future. This is the climax folks. Can America, the beautiful, survive?
So go to civil war to save one family? Does that make sense? Are you willing to die for Ivanka Trump?
That all said, they will not arrest and imprison his children. Democrats say alot of stupid things, none of those stupid things ever happen. They are the gang that can't shoot straight. Everything they touch falls apart sooner or later. Just look at their cities.
No, there is not going to be a civil war for Ivanka.
It's not just the Dems, fool. The republican establishment is just as filthy.
They impeached him in 7 hours. He's not going to be allowed to walk free.
You haven't been paying attention. New Jersey gym owner had his bank account emptied. Thousands of conservative voices have been completely silenced. Go read about Nazi Germany in the 30s, before the holocaust.
How many Republicans are in the House? 211
How many of them voted to impeach? 10
I am fully aware of Nazi Germany, I was in High School in the 80s, they actually taught history.
Perhaps we change the numbers from 211 to 260 and see how many gym owners have their bank emptied. How many voices are silenced.
Know what the difference between Nazi Germany and today is? YOU
Americans do not have a lay down and give up mentality, there will not be any rounding up of Americans in my lifetime.
How many Republicans voted to certify the ILLEGAL votes? How many Republicans voted yes to send hundreds of billions of dollars overseas, and only give us $600? That $600 doesn't even pay one months rent. This is why the swamp needs drained.
I only brought up the peach mints to show how retarded the left has become. They are afraid of something. Trump is out in 6 days, why remove him?
me thinks you are in dire need of swamp education. head on over to Sundance at the conservative treehouse for some solid knowledge. there is no R and D party. One uni-party Swamp
Fully aware, doesn't mean I can't ask questions. Nor start up free dialog.
Thread is filling with red pills.
Always a method to madness.
This is an uncharacteristically silly remark from you. Curt Schilling was cancelled by his freaking insurance company, Andrew Torba's entire family can't even get a credit card. Multiple talking heads and pols talk about removing and re-educating supporters' children.
Why would you construct a straw man that it's only about the Trumps? BunnyPicnic specifically said "or his family AND ALL OF HIS SUPPORTERS will suffer" (emphasis mine). Their plans for this are already in the open, which is a mistake because more people are appalled than enthused by these commies.
"because more people are appalled than enthused by these commies."
And there is your answer. I am appalled at what happened to Kurt, and Torba, and hundreds of other soon to be incredibly rich when the lawsuits are filed, people.
Is it an inconvenience for them right now, absolutely, is it an assault on their freedom, You're goddamn right it is. Will they prevail in court. FUCK YEA they will.
I am concerned for my family like the rest of us, but I am also old enough to live through the Carter administration, the Clinton administration and the Obama administration. I also remember the sky was falling every one of those times. It never did, and will not now. Biden will be a bump in the road, and his administration will continue to red pill more people then there were yesterday.
They can believe whatever they want, but already there are recalls going down, there are legislative and judicial battles being raged.
We may be living in modern Rome, but we are far from the Gauls being at the gates.
Law suits mean jack shit when the courts are corrupt.
Also this moment right now is the equivalent of when Caesar was made aware that he had to either step down from command (and thus be prosecuted for supposed misconduct while he was consul a few years back) or March on Rome, be declared an enemy of the republic, and start a civil war.
I've read the rise and fall of the roman empire, I am fully aware of history.
We are not even close to the Cesar / Pompey circus that transpired over a decade in early Rome.
Attempting to compare the 2 is revisionist history.
We have weathered worse, the ship will not capsize over this.
I believe in this quote:
“History does not repeat itself, but it sure does like to rhyme.”
last time I checked the msm, the caravans of illegals are on their way here....According to msm, Biden has plans to give amnesty to 12 to 22 million illegals.
they might not be Gauls, but they sure as hell arent the cavalry
If, and its a big if the Dems plan on making 22 million illegals citizens, and the GOP is so worried about their political power, perhaps, and I know this is crazy, but perhaps the GOP should start an outreach program.
I know, crazy idea, but faced with certain death of a political party, or learn to adapt.
BunnyPicnic said "and all of his supporters" will suffer. Best to keep your emotions in check. Read and listen carefully so no misunderstanding is had.
Check out what a communist purge is. That might take you down the right path. Start with the group of people the dems have been demonizing for 4 years -- MAGA people. 75 to 80 million strong means they have to be the first to be purged because they are the most dangerous to the Elite.
Any attempt as a soviet or Maoist style purge will be the biggest mistake they ever made, guaranteed. They don't have enough single men to step up.
To do a purge you need lots of guns, the liberals don't have enough of them.
And don't even go there with the military will just do it, the military, contrary to the fake ballots for Biden cast by the 'military' are not going to follow orders to fire, nor purge their own brothers, sisters, fathers, mothers, etc.
They arrested a Lt. Col for the 'riots' do you have any idea what a retired Lt. Col makes? Do you have any idea how close a Lt. Col is to the rank of general? 2 promotions.
This man risked his entire future to put skin in the game, our military is FULL of those men, our military is based. You do realize that the oath to enlisted men is to their commanders, Officers make no such oath.
Officers oaths are not to the CiC, the DOD or their commanding officers, it is to the Constitution and ONLY the constitution. Officers will not obey orders from their generals that disregard or violate the constitution and they are issued side arms to execute anyone who violates that supreme authority.
You sound like one who is immune. Ivanka? Do you have an Ivanka how about a Jr.? What would you do for them? You think some how you get to skip away from this? Picture a fucking boot on your throat and your family for generations.
Would I commit high treason and attempt an an unlawful occupation of the WH to save my kids? No...
Suggesting that there is dire deathly threat to Ivanka and Trumps family is a fucking LARP, a DANGEROUS LARP.
No boot on my family ever, Psalms 5.56 will ensure that.
Hyperbole never won a war pede, infact just the opposite, panic and disarray gets you killed because it causes you to make severe tactical errors.
Your panic over sky is falling threats to POTUS and his kids lives is causing you to make tactically unsound decisions. Don't be Custer bro... slow down, take a breath, make sure your mags are loaded, and wait.
"Que" has been saying military tribunals since day 1
Jus sayin
That’s the obvious answer doesn’t mean insider knowledge. You would reach that conclusion after looking into it.
This doesn't fly on any level- he has talked about what this country needs and calling out the swamp for many years. He would not sacrifice his safety & happiness and that of his family without a full plan in place. He's gone all in against the uniparty swamp, communists and the CCP, big tech, big banking, big pharma, you name it.
He knows there is no life after losing, literally. If you think the commies went hard after Pinochet until his last day on earth, imagine these evil sickos going after every last Trump relative. Look, a thug put Roger Stone's wife in the hospital today, and they're not even critical to any operation.
This is like saying you think the pee allegations are plausible when it's well known the man is a germophobe. "C'mon man!"
No, that would never happen.
If he did not do it by the book, he would be tried and possibly executed for sedition and treason himself.
If he had an avenue to use, it would not involve hijacking the highest office in the land under military orders like some despot from a 3rd world.
His command authority expires on Jan 20 at 11:59 PM, any attempt to order anything after that would be actual insurrection. The military would not obey, and he would be in cuffs moments later.
Trump is a smart man, he's not stupid enough to attempt to hold the office hostage as negotiating power.
Thats just crazy talk.
You are operating under the false assumption that our government is still functioning as a constitutional republic, where the constitutional process of law and order still applies. We are not. The constitutional process itself has become the means of insurrection by communists and foreign interests. Like any other banana republic, the "Happening" is strictly a matter of whether Trump does have the will, the power, and the control to make it happen. Can and will Trump take control, or will the communists? That's the only question we have left.
This nails it.
Either trump suspends normal operating procedure and saves the republic or he doesn't and dooms the republic to communism.
Crazy talk? Maybe 6 years ago. Everything you say is true but only if the law matters. Does it?
Law and Order president going against his own moral convictions to save his billions?
That is what I am to believe Donald Trump has become? Someone who sells out his own moral compass because his political enemies committed fraud? When faced with unspeakable evil and immorality his answer is to fight back with even more immorality?
Not gonna buy it.
Well if we’re to believe that Trump won and this is being stolen are we breaking the law? Is someone robs you and you fight back did you break the law?
Ask OJ Simpson that question. He didn't spend time in prison for murdering his wife, he spent time for showing up in a hotel room to 'steal' the things that were stolen from his home.
Our entire judicial system is based on the crazy concept that taking the law into your own hands is unlawful, period.
The stole the election, that's a fact. Trump staging an actual coup to remain the 'lawfully' elected president is not going to change that. I love the president as much as any patriot, and I will do everything legally to resist the new president, he does not have my loyalty.
But if we really want to change the voting system, it starts locally, your city, your county, then your state.
Millions of American CAN make a difference, we have more MAGA house of representatives then ever before. The house of representatives is the voice of the people.
Look at the map, it is all red, but the house is not all red. That is because in many red counties they elect 'red democrats', that MUST change. Only MAGA will make that change.
Here in southern Colorado we sent a MAGA representative to the house, even though they had structured the 3rd district in Colorado to include 2 heavy democrat cities, Pueblo and Aspen. If we still got her in, it can happen in EVERY state.
This is how we win, its a long fight. Violence is never the way, political action is the strongest form of violence and it does not require a single shot being fired.
This is the way.
I don’t think violence is the way and not advocating that anyone take the law into their own hands. But how many people did we put in power that we thought were MAGA and turned lame duck? The problem is the system itself will corrupt. There won’t be another Trump that has the money and power to hold his own surrounded by swamp. They will make sure of it. That’s why I’m saying trump has to do something now if what he and everyone else is saying is true. That this is a coup and it’s being stolen by bad actors. And how do you have any faith in the election system?
If you read through the Insurrection Act details you will find that so far Trump and his admin have followed the letter of the law. Ironically the country being under perpetual state of war has been the Deep State's fault since before 9/11 - presidents have been abusing their power under the war on drugs, war on poverty, etc. for a long time.
The states of emergency have been specifically deployed now with interesting timing, and provide for further powers and cutting of red tape and besides the actual storms that happened last year, the facade of a plandemic has provided for a lot of regulation removals which the administration has also leveraged quite well. (When people like Perdue and Navarro talk about getting things done in "Trump Time" the emotion in their voices is poignant.)
Trump knows the time is now, he's stuck to the law meticulously even when he didn't have to. In order to re-establish the country, a nation run in accordance with a brilliantly-conceived set of laws, NOT a monarchy, we have to follow the laws right to the end. When all avenues have been exhausted and the enemy has perpetrated an actual coup, which they've been attempting since Nov 2016, then it the right and the obligation of the military and the citizenry to remove the insurrectionists and traitors. Until then, it's the sole obligation of the executive branch to enforce the laws of the constitution to which they've sworn oaths.
"But how many people did we put in power that we thought were MAGA and turned lame duck?"
Only 10 republicans voted to impeach, how many of them were MAGA? You are going to tell me that grocery store chain mega millionaire was MAGA lol. Liz Cheney, daughter of lets start a war and make my company billions Dick? LOL
No, MAGA was on the floor violently opposing the impeachment.
Loss of faith in the election system, that is exactly what they want. They want you to stay home. I guess lets just give them that right? LOL I provided a roadmap, if you chose not to follow that that is your right as an American. Its a beautiful system, freedom of thought, freedom of mind
Lincoln did it. He suspended habeus corpus, and even admitted what he did was unconstitutional, but necessary.
Trump's supporters are begging him to do this. Military tribunals. Fuck, ask Japan, australia, any allies to assist. This is pivotal.
Yep. Unfortunately if they're not going to follow the law and they've corrupted the people that would hold them accountable, you have to suspend the law.
So shooting the guy robbing your house is immoral.
No, that is your right to self defense.
They are not mutually exclusive.
Taking another person's life is morally wrong. Breaking the constitution is morally wrong. But in both cases you are doing so to prevent being wronged yourself.
If Potus steps down doesn't power go to VP or speaker of the house?
EO on Succession says it goes to SecDef
That's not what he'd be doing ''holding the office hostage''. He doesn't give a shit about holding power for his own personal sake. If he were to use the military, with tribunals and the whole bit, he's well within his rights to do so in cases like we have currently. So far they've deprived him of his right to due process and expression, privacy, and they tried to deprive him of his very life - do you imagine that they will stop? No, they'll keep going after him and us. See all of world history for examples as to how this usually pans out.
YES.
its just for show, like a mask for your face, but over a city.
We're going into a military interregnum. It's a no brainer, after Biden called the military "stupid bastards" you don't think they got the memo?
They got the memo, and are obviously jumping right to the task of protecting him
/s
Well said!! Those troops aren’t there for Joe Hiden. Those troops are there to protect Trump, when the left goes ape shit, once they find out Trump is re-elected. Get your popcorn ready and enjoy the movie.
While it is undeniably true that the elitist gatekeepers hold on to the majority of the strings of institutional power, it is also undeniably true that these people are corrupt power mongers that have lied and cheated their way to those positions. Now comes the time when the citizens will find out whether their status will remain as empowered citizens, or if their nation has fallen under the weight of the corrupt machinations of the arrogant and amoral.
There are whispers and rumors of workings behind the scenes of what is apparently also in motion. The question remains, and we are doomed to not know until that final moment, has President Trump planned well enough and will he pull the trigger?
The shootout at high noon will occur. The only unknown is whether trump will draw or be shot down without defending himself, and, with that, resigning the nation to the inevitable slide to a Fascist government now ready to plunder and control the rest of the nation.
From all I have seen of Trump over these last 40 years or so, I don't believe he will go down without at least trying.
But let's say he does walk away. What does he do on the 21st. Does he immediately start a guerilla campaign while the democrats worsen the lockdowns causing the citizens to rebel and flock to Trump more than they already have? Does this fall in line with further evidence of voter fraud. Does the military get to the point where they have to say publicaly they are worried about U.S. persons including politicians being involved with Chinese military or intelligence operations.
I just don't see how he walks away with the immense popularity that seems to grow day after day. Moderate lefties who hate Trump as a person are starting to see who in Washington is fighting for their livelihoods versus those fighting solely for power.
He has the country pretty close to exactly where he needs it to strike a death blow to the credibility and any remaining popularity of people like Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell etc.
If he walks away now and holes up in Florida, I'm convinced the swamp/deep state is unbeatable by any "legal" means.
Democrat Governors from all over the country have sent National Guard troops to DC, its getting to be a little annoying that people here don't know this.
https://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article248485995.html
Do you have any idea how many troops were sent by their governors to Iraq?
Do you think those troops were still under the command of their governors?
I would suggest you read up about command authority in the military and how it works.
The NG is under command of POTUS, period.
What im saying is that people are under the assumption that they are all there thanks to POTUS, when several Democrat Governors sent NG troops to Washington as well.
Understood, but governors cannot send their NG without it being requested. Thats kinda how it works.
Like when we send NG from Colorado to CA to help, our governor just doesn't go hey, I think I'm going to order my NG cuz I'm a nice guy, it doesn't work that way.
There are literally protocols in place to move NG troops, you don't just make a phone call and say make it so.
Doesn't mean it can't backfire (which it usually does with the Dems)
Checkmate. The special security team for Biden. ( also a Q post) maybe you should be team Q, hello George.
Thats exactly whats happening soooo yeah believe it
So any conspiracy theories! It's wonderful!
Call me a doomer. But I think he’s going to fight it in the courts. Think about it, what would happen a year from now if the Supreme Court determines that the election did, beyond a doubt, legitimately go to Trump. What would happen? Can they unseat a sitting president? Who would do it? Would Trump get his full 4 years, or would Biden have eaten one up? What if Biden is dead by then and Harris is president? How would that work?
That kind of constitutional crisis would send the country into a crazy tailspin, but I think that’s what he’s going to go for!
They would not reverse the 'results'
I actually don't think they will pursue it after Biden is seated for that very reason.
60 years from now when everyone involved is long dead they will 'declassify' everything and there will be stories written on how the country owes Trump an apology, his grandchildren, old and aged will accept a token apology from whoever is sitting president, and a presidential proclamation will be made making it official that Donald J Trump was the winner in the 2020 elections.
Maybe they will erect a statue in the garden of heros, or rename it to the President Donald J Trump garden of heroes.
... Maybe ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfBgFpqTsiA
The choice is:
or
Pick your poison. Trump chooses the former. As someone with a career and kids, I agree with him. Live to fight another day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr-DcMa3nD8
The military presence is just following the left's narrative. When the FBI implements a massive task force to deal with "right-wing terrorism", you wouldn't assume it's anything else than fearmongering about a made-up boogeyman. This is what this is. The military accepted Biden as president-elect, and even if Trump had some ridiculous plans to take power, the military wouldn't obey him. The military coup would work out the same way the "1776 will commence again" storming of the Capitol went down: a couple of dozen soldiers disobeying, being told to leave the building and arrested outside and subsequently fired and prosecuted. That's the level of resistance the right has been willing to put up this far, and even that gets attacked, discredited and denied by other right-wingers.
Trump would call for the military to support him taking over, the attempt would fall flat and within the hour the same people who called upon him to do it for months now would turn around and claim the video of him calling upon the military was a deep fake, all a false flag to discredit Trump, he'd never do that, yadda yadda yadda. The few soldiers who actually followed the call would be denounced as Antifa or being misled victims.
Btw military tribunals cleared their dockets for the end of Jan to march 4th. Trump will be sworn in March 4th which is the original inauguration day.
Heard that too.
Did you know that is bullshit, there is no 'public' military docket, just floating around on some website.
That's not how military tribunals work. LOL
Can anybody clarify for me whether the politicians are coming and going from the Capitol building right now? I think I heard that a lot of them- or at least the non-wealthy ones- often have places to sleep in their offices. Are they actually staying there right now, possibly under the guise of being locked in for their own safety?
Its a RICO sting. Pence not a traitor. If he gave it to trump on Jan 6, the swamp remains. By tossing it back to the states, they decided themselves and committed treason. Swamp gets cleaned dem/rep. Who's the best RICO lawyer on the planet? Rudy Giuliani. Biden must be sworn in as the final step. Trump said at the Alamo the 25th amendment will bite Biden in the @ss. Only way that happens is Biden gets sworn in, then arested. Understand now?
Who is going to arrest him? FEMA LOL LOL LOL
Yea, Biden walks in the office, sits at the desk and in one pen stroke ends FEMA control. Checkmate.
Is it the National Guard in DC or is it other state's National Guards?
I read somewhere this past week that it is national guard pulled from other states. Not sure if accurate. Another user mentioned their national guard brother being “deployed” (idk the correct terminology) to DC and I remember specifically that this particular user lived out of state. A non-Virginian and non-DC resident, I just can’t remember what state it was.
Research the info is there
https://www.survivaldan101.com/what-will-it-be-like-the-three-stages-of-us-martial-law-and-the-signs-to-look-for-before-it-happens/
Excellent! Thank you for this link.
You're welcome
Biden has no standing. The admin will have to call Trump back for help on occasion. You watch. (Trump built special relationships around the world. Kim Jong Un won't talk to anybody else)
Right? It’s fucking ridiculous to even say out loud.
Taking another person's life is morally wrong. Breaking the constitution is morally wrong. But in both cases you are doing so to prevent being wronged yourself.
I agree this is all pretty fucking weird. Logical explanation I can think of is that they have some credible evidence that there will be an attack at the capital. By antifa, crazies who knows. Still over the top completely so maybe it's just optics to scare everyone into thinking "we need to ban guns now they almost took over the capital and we had to deploy the army to stop it"
That's exactly what's gonna happen.
You're a Q guy.
I'll say the same thing that I said to the last guy:
I have over 300 days here, with over 13k comment karma. If I was a 'Q' guy, you would easily be able to prove it.
Show me a Q post of mine. Go ahead, I'll wait.
Love you kanabiis!
What is going on though?
Exactly....
Trump is not in charge. 🥴
Ok cuckles.... cuz Q told me FEMA, got it.
Not keeping score but for "not a Q guy" you sure have said it a lot.
Pissy pence is.
Trump isn't building anything up. The presidency has been usurped by globalists since 1/6/20.
Trump is only remaining in place for the appearance of a smooth transition of power at this point.
Q is possibly very real, and it was messing with us the whole time. Perhaps those sealed indictments, military tribunals, Gitmo, etc will be happening. Except it isn't gonna be happening to the deep state, it will be happening to Trump supporters.
Maybe cuz Trump has been reduced to a figurehead?
Imagine asking for nonQtard answers on the largest Qtard site on the internet. Trump about to hand over the country to communists and the majority of his supporters are actually excited about it.