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It really is although I don't know it's leanings. Google banned the Dissenter extension which allowed people to leave comments on web pages inside the dissenter app. However, people can still download the Dissenter Web Brower through Gab. So, we all can comment on sites that have comments disabled. Plus, it has up and down voting. Gab is much better than Twitter if you ask me because of this. Hopefully they won't ban their site.
You can manually import the addin into other chrome browsers still. Gab made it open source so anyone can use it still. Its just banned by Google for automatic installation via their extensions library.
I keep trying to get Dissenter as an addon but every time I visit the link all I see is a bunch of code that's really enlarged on the screen and nothing else.
I have no clue where to download or install it from.
And those things are actually allowed on lefturd platforms but freedom, truth and reality are bannable and deplatformable "offenses." Shows you how fucked leftism is.
What are they going to do if Biden gets in. Then Antifa fags who hate Biden already start threatening to attack the white house? Does twitter ban itself?
People like us are never the first to know. If we knew what the plan was right now, that would mean that all of the bad actors knew long before we did. If I were Trump and I had a plan to fix this now, I wouldn't even tell most of the people in my own administration. We've seen nothing but leaks and backstabbing for 4 years. Letting such a plan out of the bag just gives the enemy time to work on thwarting it.
I, for one, never understood that there should have been a far bigger power struggle between the state Legislatures and the SOS/Governors until it was way too late. The Legislatures should have pushed back until they got the forensic audit results in their hands. China is literally backing Brian Kemp and others to just ignore our election fraud, which is putting our freedom in danger.
I don't think Trump is done. Even if he isn't the President on the 21st, he is not done. His track record shows that he intends on seeing this through no matter how long it takes.
Just posting because “he did nothing to stop it” is not correct. He tried preemptive lawsuits (PA was one) but those got shot down. Then after the election when they filed the lawsuit it was tossed for waiting too long. Giving you benefit of the doubt new handshake account.
We shouldn't be too quick to disown its memory. Parler was a good sacrifice, because up to this point, normies have not been challenged in their view that "it's not censorship, just make your own platform!" This is something everyone can point to and say, it absolutely is censorship. Big Tech won't just inconvenience you, they will kill and erase any competition.
I think we need a two state solution. A few years ago, I had hoped America would enter a second Era of Good Feelings, but now I don’t think the two sides can coexists.
Well, now you understand why Obama flooded our tech industry with H1 visas from foreign shitholes. It was an incursion to commandeer big tech and force us into three seedier parts of the internet. Took FB 13 years to ban me, for literally nothing. Now, with their party about to have complete control, there isn't anything stopping them from suffocating our voices.
We don't know how to code. We don't have the ability to fight back (yet)... we're 8 years late to the information war.
I don't care if Parler is a horrible site. This is suppression of free speech. Jesus why can't people see this? Just because you may not like someone, doesn't mean you can silence them.
I think people do see it. We know its bad. But this is a war and you don't really have time to mourn each individual casualty. You have to keep morale up and focus on the fighters still in the fight.
I'm not sad Parler got nuked, I'm pissed that an American company would even think about doing that to another company. That alone shows that we are no longer united, haven't been for a while now.
Pretty much. They could at the very least throw up a static page saying "Hey, Amazon fucked us...we're working on it." Would take about 5 minutes to put something together and update the DNS with new IP addresses.
They built their platform on AWS, they were tightly coupled. I think it is feasible they could move to another cloud type host but there are not many and they are all huge corporations. Parler had the wrong people in technical positions, they set up a site that required a phone number, it had no public reading access and they trusted Amazon.
Parler was not setup just for an anti-trust suit, they just didn't see this coming and while we know better, I do understand them trusting Amazon. Why was Parler really banned from AWS? It is very clearly because Trump was going to move to it, the reason for the ban was to remove Trump's voice.
I think Parler should win their suit and get award huge damages, what Amazon did was disgusting.
The courts will find a hate-speech exemption and deny their case. Anyone relying on remedies through the judicial system is setting themselves up for disappointment
I love Bongino but the one time that I got angry with him is when he was slinging the “muh free market” bullshit after the censorship (eg Alex Jones) began.
I was so pissed that he didn’t understand the technical backend and that they would essentially shut you off at every point.
The lack of technical expertise really hurt Parler, I saw an interview with the CEO a few days back and the dumb fuck couldn't even get his microphone setup. I stopped listening after 5 minutes due to the bad audio quality.
My wife's parents are in their 70s and they can use Skype without an issue but a tech CEO can't?
It was fake news put out by the left, I looked at the archive they published, it was all public information.
I also refused to sign up because of the phone number requirement, at the end of the day they are still a business and likely had plans or currently were selling your data. I also think they were not as tech literate as they should have been.
There HAS to be something else going on because, if they can't get back up, with their own servers or foreign/non-cucked hosts, they are 100% incompetent and tech-illiterate.
I wouldn't put it past them to play the victim card, if there's a bigger payday for them.
Unfortunately, they are a huge target and businesses just aren't going to want the attention and liability. Don't believe when you're told that violence doesn't solve anything. It quite obviously does.
This is the biggest issue with having an over reliance on third parties. A company heavily relying on third parties is no different than a country heavily relying on foreign countries.
I feel bad for John Matze but the guy is a dumbass. He should have seen this coming a mile away and should have better prepared for it.
His last statements... sounds like they never bothered to backup their database anywhere other than on Amazon, if that. This would be the only reason they would need to get back on Amazon to save their site.
Plus they do seem to lack some tech skills, AWS takes care of so much, sure it is expensive but it is very polished.
You're right, they really would likely need to hire multiple people to do the admin and setup and change their architecture as well, so much time and money required to do that.
On top of that the site was clunky as hell and asked for far too much personal information.
My hunch: they built their platform using all the AWS services and now they can only move to other big tech platforms with similar offerings.
Gab runs their own servers. That’s the smartest but not the easiest way.
The Donald uses servers from who knows where - them not saying provides security (but I think they researched carefully which providers have been solid in the past). And have set things up to scale without big techs services
Making the decision to go that way after you’ve already committed to the big tech way is very hard and requires a lot of time and effort
And, frankly.
It’s likely their devs aren’t actually all that based. To put them on AWS in the first place was foolish. 90% of people who are actually based would have known that after watching big tech continually increase their aggressive censorship and deplatforming.
If their devs aren’t based then they’ve probably bailed for fear or never getting another tech job or some bullshit.
I don't like seeing anything shut down needlessly. I had a Parler acct but couldn't figure it out and could only sometimes view the feed. I have a GAB acct and it's hard to get on so I haven't figured that out yet either.
it's wrong.... it really is.... but parler really sucks / sucked anyway. gab is much better.
It really is although I don't know it's leanings. Google banned the Dissenter extension which allowed people to leave comments on web pages inside the dissenter app. However, people can still download the Dissenter Web Brower through Gab. So, we all can comment on sites that have comments disabled. Plus, it has up and down voting. Gab is much better than Twitter if you ask me because of this. Hopefully they won't ban their site.
You can manually import the addin into other chrome browsers still. Gab made it open source so anyone can use it still. Its just banned by Google for automatic installation via their extensions library.
I keep trying to get Dissenter as an addon but every time I visit the link all I see is a bunch of code that's really enlarged on the screen and nothing else.
I have no clue where to download or install it from.
No one should be banned unless it's like child porn or stalking and shit.
And those things are actually allowed on lefturd platforms but freedom, truth and reality are bannable and deplatformable "offenses." Shows you how fucked leftism is.
Or threatening to blow up the WhiteHouse, like Madonna
What are they going to do if Biden gets in. Then Antifa fags who hate Biden already start threatening to attack the white house? Does twitter ban itself?
Gab will get faster/more stable.
Trump needs a Livestream TV station.
People like us are never the first to know. If we knew what the plan was right now, that would mean that all of the bad actors knew long before we did. If I were Trump and I had a plan to fix this now, I wouldn't even tell most of the people in my own administration. We've seen nothing but leaks and backstabbing for 4 years. Letting such a plan out of the bag just gives the enemy time to work on thwarting it.
I, for one, never understood that there should have been a far bigger power struggle between the state Legislatures and the SOS/Governors until it was way too late. The Legislatures should have pushed back until they got the forensic audit results in their hands. China is literally backing Brian Kemp and others to just ignore our election fraud, which is putting our freedom in danger.
I don't think Trump is done. Even if he isn't the President on the 21st, he is not done. His track record shows that he intends on seeing this through no matter how long it takes.
Just posting because “he did nothing to stop it” is not correct. He tried preemptive lawsuits (PA was one) but those got shot down. Then after the election when they filed the lawsuit it was tossed for waiting too long. Giving you benefit of the doubt new handshake account.
We shouldn't be too quick to disown its memory. Parler was a good sacrifice, because up to this point, normies have not been challenged in their view that "it's not censorship, just make your own platform!" This is something everyone can point to and say, it absolutely is censorship. Big Tech won't just inconvenience you, they will kill and erase any competition.
Parler is dead. Long live Parler.
doesn't matter which one is better, the fact that Silicon Valley can do this me angry. The Bigtech have to be nuked off the face of the earth
They are just forcing us to innovate.. it is a blessing in disguise, soon we will have our own everything
This is the way
THIS IS THE WAY
I HAVE SPOKEN
Our own country some day?
We can only hope. I really thought it would be America.
I think we need a two state solution. A few years ago, I had hoped America would enter a second Era of Good Feelings, but now I don’t think the two sides can coexists.
Well, now you understand why Obama flooded our tech industry with H1 visas from foreign shitholes. It was an incursion to commandeer big tech and force us into three seedier parts of the internet. Took FB 13 years to ban me, for literally nothing. Now, with their party about to have complete control, there isn't anything stopping them from suffocating our voices.
We don't know how to code. We don't have the ability to fight back (yet)... we're 8 years late to the information war.
I don't care if Parler is a horrible site. This is suppression of free speech. Jesus why can't people see this? Just because you may not like someone, doesn't mean you can silence them.
I think people do see it. We know its bad. But this is a war and you don't really have time to mourn each individual casualty. You have to keep morale up and focus on the fighters still in the fight.
I'm not sad Parler got nuked, I'm pissed that an American company would even think about doing that to another company. That alone shows that we are no longer united, haven't been for a while now.
Either intentional or accidental (when it inevitably gets hacked/data leaks)
completely incompetent if they can't find a host
Pretty much. They could at the very least throw up a static page saying "Hey, Amazon fucked us...we're working on it." Would take about 5 minutes to put something together and update the DNS with new IP addresses.
I think their bigger problem is they used all the AWS services to make their life easier and are now limited to only a handful of big tech options
And that’s why they can’t find anyone else
I feel like Parler is just a setup for an anti-trust lawsuit, and that's why they haven't made their own servers yet.
They built their platform on AWS, they were tightly coupled. I think it is feasible they could move to another cloud type host but there are not many and they are all huge corporations. Parler had the wrong people in technical positions, they set up a site that required a phone number, it had no public reading access and they trusted Amazon.
Parler was not setup just for an anti-trust suit, they just didn't see this coming and while we know better, I do understand them trusting Amazon. Why was Parler really banned from AWS? It is very clearly because Trump was going to move to it, the reason for the ban was to remove Trump's voice.
I think Parler should win their suit and get award huge damages, what Amazon did was disgusting.
The courts will find a hate-speech exemption and deny their case. Anyone relying on remedies through the judicial system is setting themselves up for disappointment
I can't believe Bongino invested in Parler.
This month should be the month you all completely reevaluate your online presence and work to secure things a bit more.
I love Bongino but the one time that I got angry with him is when he was slinging the “muh free market” bullshit after the censorship (eg Alex Jones) began.
I was so pissed that he didn’t understand the technical backend and that they would essentially shut you off at every point.
The lack of technical expertise really hurt Parler, I saw an interview with the CEO a few days back and the dumb fuck couldn't even get his microphone setup. I stopped listening after 5 minutes due to the bad audio quality.
My wife's parents are in their 70s and they can use Skype without an issue but a tech CEO can't?
Don't anti-discrimination laws protect against this?
Laws? What laws? There are no laws.
Like I keep saying, America is now a post-legal society
Political ideology is not a protected class for those laws.
Then maybe we should make liberty our god and Trump its prophet. Hey religious perfectly for Trumpism
Probably. Especially since kushner (rat) apparently advised Trump not to use gab or telegram.
Requiring a phone number was big time sus
Those boomers just need to get on Gab already.
Many have migrated over to Gab. The FB and Twitter exodus has slowed their servers the past week or so.
Well lookie lookie! I seem to remember a spook nest in UT everyone hates, with enough oomph for EVERYONE to set up new replacements for social media!
Lawyers.
Make it hurt.
Stupid question: why they don’t have a merger with Gab?
Good question actually. Or at least use/build with Gab's servers.
sort of how AWS got started. Lease your extra hardware.
The internet sucks anyway. Let’s build our own.
Cryptonet
there's no way thats really what he said... epik.com will host them...
AWS is not just a normal host.
if he's turning down offers, then it was a trap
Epik is a registrar, not a host on the scale that parler needs.
They do offer webhosting but like you said, not on the scale Parler needs.
Is gab that much smaller?
What's the story on the 70 terabytes supposedly hacked? I refused to sign up because they wanted my phone number. Glad I didn't now
It was fake news put out by the left, I looked at the archive they published, it was all public information.
I also refused to sign up because of the phone number requirement, at the end of the day they are still a business and likely had plans or currently were selling your data. I also think they were not as tech literate as they should have been.
Dan is gonna be eating some humble pie next week if this is true.
Another dry run, next it will be _______.
if Gab can do it so can Parler - dude needs to figure this shit out - host it outside the US if possible
There HAS to be something else going on because, if they can't get back up, with their own servers or foreign/non-cucked hosts, they are 100% incompetent and tech-illiterate.
I wouldn't put it past them to play the victim card, if there's a bigger payday for them.
Unfortunately, they are a huge target and businesses just aren't going to want the attention and liability. Don't believe when you're told that violence doesn't solve anything. It quite obviously does.
The least they could do is buy one fucking computer, point their address IP to it, and make a status page with latest news or something.
Why do they need anyone to host them? Isnt the only requirement to have servers?
They are going to make HUGE money from the anti-trust lawsuit. They’ll be fine....
This is the biggest issue with having an over reliance on third parties. A company heavily relying on third parties is no different than a country heavily relying on foreign countries.
I feel bad for John Matze but the guy is a dumbass. He should have seen this coming a mile away and should have better prepared for it.
His last statements... sounds like they never bothered to backup their database anywhere other than on Amazon, if that. This would be the only reason they would need to get back on Amazon to save their site.
Build your own hosting
That is just BS. I think he is just angling for the antitrust suit.
Why dont they just partner with gab or minds or one of the other alt tech sites until they can get their own servers set up.
Why would they not reach out to rob at Erik?
I'm getting a sense that there's something else going on.
He also says they will be back. We'll see.
hosting as in Cloud? Why can't they go the same route as Gab?
That takes time, money and infrastructure. They CAN do that - but if they don't have the capital to get it off the ground, they're screwed.
Plus they do seem to lack some tech skills, AWS takes care of so much, sure it is expensive but it is very polished.
You're right, they really would likely need to hire multiple people to do the admin and setup and change their architecture as well, so much time and money required to do that.
On top of that the site was clunky as hell and asked for far too much personal information.
My hunch: they built their platform using all the AWS services and now they can only move to other big tech platforms with similar offerings.
Gab runs their own servers. That’s the smartest but not the easiest way.
The Donald uses servers from who knows where - them not saying provides security (but I think they researched carefully which providers have been solid in the past). And have set things up to scale without big techs services
Making the decision to go that way after you’ve already committed to the big tech way is very hard and requires a lot of time and effort
And, frankly.
It’s likely their devs aren’t actually all that based. To put them on AWS in the first place was foolish. 90% of people who are actually based would have known that after watching big tech continually increase their aggressive censorship and deplatforming.
If their devs aren’t based then they’ve probably bailed for fear or never getting another tech job or some bullshit.
They should do that. Gab was down for a month+ when this same thing happened to them. Parler needs to do the same.
Yeah he booted Q people from what I've read so what does he expect, sympathy?
Just go to gab.
I don't like seeing anything shut down needlessly. I had a Parler acct but couldn't figure it out and could only sometimes view the feed. I have a GAB acct and it's hard to get on so I haven't figured that out yet either.