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posted ago by substantialmajestic +31 / -0

I've started debating lefties every chance I get.

My best response so far: "Have you ever talked to a Republican who actually believed this. What did they actually say. I don't know any Trump supporters who are against any of those groups. In fact, I know many Trump supporters WHO ARE THOSE GROUPS! LOL. I know many Hispanics that voted for Trump because they came here legally and care about their faith. I know many blacks that voted for Trump because they care about economic opportunity and the privilege of being raised by a mom and a dad. I know many gays who like masculine men and are worried masculinity is being canceled. I know many women who value family and do not want their businesses closed."

I've started debating lefties every chance I get. My best response so far: "Have you ever talked to a Republican who actually believed this. What did they actually say. I don't know any Trump supporters who are against any of those groups. In fact, I know many Trump supporters WHO ARE THOSE GROUPS! LOL. I know many Hispanics that voted for Trump because they came here legally and care about their faith. I know many blacks that voted for Trump because they care about economic opportunity and the privilege of being raised by a mom and a dad. I know many gays who like masculine men and are worried masculinity is being canceled. I know many women who value family and do not want their businesses closed."
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otistoole 4 points ago +4 / -0

Just tell them KKK was started by Democrats and they will start stammering B..b...but those were DIFFERENT Democrats. Muh party switch

You are wasting your time on these idiots

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substantialmajestic [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've red pilled moderates by debating. It's been easy to peel away the extreme left talking points but I want to get stronger.

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otistoole 1 point ago +1 / -0

I do approve but at this point im a cynical misanthrope asshole

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Maxmax 4 points ago +4 / -0

I’m a woman and never found a Republican who didn’t like me.

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RustyShacklefordsMom 2 points ago +2 / -0

Same. The most “sexism” I’ve ever encountered was a gun salesman asking if this was my first gun. I laughed and listed my 4 other guns (that I’ve since lost in a terrible boating accident) and we started talking about MAGA 😂

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PorcupineKing 3 points ago +3 / -0

The response you'll probably get is something like, "NOOOO!!! THOSE ARE FACTS AND FACTS ARE RACIST!!! REEEEEEE!!!!!"

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MaouRem 2 points ago +2 / -0

Republicans have diversity of thought, democrats have someone else choose their thoughts, disagree, and start infighting over who has the power

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Insanejub 1 point ago +1 / -0

Literally debated this topic over the past 15 years in person and online several thousand times at this point. Hit me with any conceivable points you think they might throw at you and I can give you multiple rebuttals for each contention.

Leftists, not too be confused with moderate liberals, are the most predictable people on the planet when it comes to this stuff. They will continually shift topics and goal posts when they feel they are going to get pinned down and have to actually answer something honestly.

This is not hard to do though because most of them have never heard a counter argument before.

My overall opinion/argument is this:

I do not give a damn what anyone's race, color, creed, gender, or orientation is. Those traits have zero impact on my judgements of an individual. The ONLY thing I care about is their personality and character. Forcibly injecting others' race, gender, or sexual preferences into every conceivable aspect of YOUR perspective of the world and of people, is what causes you to judge others on traits which they have no control over.

Show me one policy from the past 4 years where republicans have advocated to discriminate against any one of the groups you've mentioned? Not nationality (border wall), not 'removing discriminatory behaviors by the government' (affirmative action), and not 'affirming the rights business owners' (forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding).

Because I sure as shit can show you example after example of where and how democrats have done exactly what you are claiming conservatives do.

Affirmative action; title IX in colleges;
forcing children to apologize for the color of their skin and causing children to stereotype based on skin color at a young age;
promulgating the mindset to poor black communities that they will never be able to achieve anything because the "white man" is holding them down, dooming them from the start because theyll now not even try to; breaking up the nuclear family in black communities by encouraging fatherless households and government dependence; thinking black people are too stupid to be able to get a driver's license;
trying to get more abortion clinics in black neighborhoods;
raising minimum wage in inner cities which hurts minority communities more than anyone else; advocating for increase in low wage immigration population which hurts minority communities more than anyone else;
advocating gender reassignment surgeries and/or hormone transition therapy as a "treatment" for trans people when research has shown makes their depression worse and increases incidences of suicidal attempts;
treating Mexican immigrants like 2nd class citizens so liberals have to pay less for their house keepers, lawn maintenance, or business staff; promulgating the sick idea that a person's self worth comes solely from traits that they cannot change (gender, race, sexual orientation); etc etc etc

Their arguments are all trash. That is why they censor. ANY platform that doesn't censor conservative view points ends up seeing conservative viewpoints thrive. It is the only way they can operate.

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substantialmajestic [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

YES!

They weave and bop as it suits them. They consider the individual, then the system, something specific, then something general as it suites them. They reason this is a sign of intelligence and the whole time they think we are not educated. Exactly. They are so slippery. Getting them cornered is easy but they slip off to a new corner. But, they are all corners.

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InVentive44 1 point ago +1 / -0

Trump has brought the lowest unemployment for all these groups before the China virus in decades

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Prophet46 1 point ago +1 / -0

Debating with commies is impossible because they dont (want to) listen.

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TownesVanCamp 1 point ago +1 / -0

I basically say, “you are fucking retarded” then walk away. If you wrestle pigs, you only come out covered in mud. There is no sense discussing anything with them. No proof is proof enough. They have to see if for themselves when they are ready to see it

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substantialmajestic [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've red pilled moderates by debating. It's been easy to peel away the extreme left talking points but I want to get stronger.

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TownesVanCamp 1 point ago +1 / -0

Moderates are relatively easy. A lot of them cannot give you a valid reason as to why they are dem. So provide them with truth and the flip to the right quickly.

It’s the ones with reasons that cannot be flipped. No matter how terrible a reason.

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substantialmajestic [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm OK with that. I don't need a guarantee of success in order to fight.

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