It was a common tactic of the Soviet Union communists going back 100 years. You are with us or you are fascist, bourgeoisie, Kulak....Orwell was a socialist and fought in the Spanish Civil War against fascists but was labeled fascist by the Soviets because we wasn't in their group (he followed Trotsky who the Soviets later assassinated). If anyone calls me that I am going to tell them it is hate speech and they should be arrested.
Socialism, communism, and fascism are three demons that fought for power in dark times. They should have stayed there but communism struck a deal and survived. All three should be forgotten; 1 demon is not the antidote to the other.
Fascism is the party of Mussolini. Fascism, Socialism, and Comunism are the three forms of totalitarian governments spawned out of Europe in an extremely dark period in history. They should have stayed there.
Communism and Fascism are the same thing. The only difference is the propaganda they use to convince people that the people who control the laws also should control the means of production.
National socialism is the antidote to international socialism?
🤣😂
Common what kind of retarded shit is that ... not even in Germany the Nazis could hold on to power ... it’s a loser form of government for loser people
At least the communists hold on to power ... worthy enemies ... Nazis are just a joke ... a side show of history
The Nazis would be in power to this day if they hadn't followed Hitler's incompetent leadership. They had no pressing need to invade Poland, France, or the USSR. They had no pressing need to bomb Great Britain. They had no pressing need to genocide the Jews.
Imagine the Nazi regime had stopped after annexing Austria, the Sudetenland, Moravia and Silesia, then worked on gradually deporting the Jewish population to Africa or the Middle East. Germany would have become an ultra-powerful European ethnostate.
WW2 would never have happened. The Cold War would never have happened. White Guilt would never have infected the psyche of Western Europe and America. The world would be a very different place.
Oh my dear boy ... have you read “the unnecessary war”?
Hitler didn’t had to do those things ... except it was in his platform, it was practically his mandate ... it’s the only reason why anyone even considered becoming a Nazi, turns out you can’t piss off half of Europe and Russia without consequences
There cannot be a Nazi type regime without a “living space” and there cannot be a living space without war ... and there cannot be socialism without Europeans ... you’re screwed
The problem of Nazis is not the racial part, there’s plenty of ethnostates doing just fine ... it’s the socialism baby ... you can’t have a sustainable planned economy regime without theft and serfdom, turns out Europeans around Germany hate that shit
Ditch the socialism ... keep the nationalism and even the racial segregation ... there’s better historical backing for those
People became Nazis because (1) the Nazis promised economic development and (2) restoration of German national character and pride, both of which they delivered on.
I don't know where you're getting anything about socialism or a planned economy. The Nazis were heavily in favor of private industry. The de-nationalized almost everything.
The Nazis were in power for 7 full years before WW2. Before the outbreak of war, they built Germany into a European superpower with a high standard of living and a booming economy. They could have simply stayed along the same course.
The concept of lebensraum came to the Nazi party through Hess by way of his mentor Haushofer, who invented the theory of geopolitik. Like I said, it was picked up by Hitler due to bad judgment.
Really? The National Socialists did not had a planned economy?
Yeah ... that’s just not true man
The weren’t called the just nationalists
They expropriated businesses, they made 5 year plans, they instituted price controls, they made production quotas and build bridges to nowhere ... all socialists regimes work ... until you ran out of other peoples money.
It ain’t that complicated... look at Venezuela ... they had an amazing standard of living for the decade chavez was in power ... but they made the mistake of not invading the next door country and pillage it ... now they’re broke.
Giving Hitler superpowers ... he directed Germany at the whim of his finger ... is the comforting illusion Germans and socialists (communists too) tell themselves to avoid recognizing that all socialism points in the same direction ... war and misery
Hitler has as much power as any other king had ... recall he survived many assassination attempts... that doesn’t sound like a god emperor to me
It sounds like you have been reading too many leftist text books. I suggest you research some actual facts about the economy in Nazi Germany.
From ultra-far-left wikipedia:
After the Nazis took power, industries were privatized en masse. Several banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, and more were privatized. The Nazi government took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible. State ownership was to be avoided unless it was absolutely necessary for rearmament or the war effort, and even in those cases the Reich often insisted on the inclusion in the contract of an option clause according to which the private firm operating the plant was entitled to purchase it. However, the privatization was applied within a framework of increasing control of the state over the whole economy through regulation and political interference, as laid out in the 1933 Act for the Formation of Compulsory Cartels, which gave the government a role in regulating and controlling the cartels that had been earlier formed in the Weimar Republic under the Cartel Act of 1923. These had mostly regulated themselves from 1923 to 1933.
In short, the economy of Nazi Germany was almost exactly like our own economy: private businesses operating within a framework of government regulation.
Just as US magacorporations like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, US Steel, General Foods, etc operate in the US under a mountain of regulations, the same was true of arms manufacturers and heavy industry cartels in Nazi Germany.
And just as small business and entrepreneurship used to be encouraged in the US (until fairly recently), the same was true in Nazi Germany.
I understand why Wikipedia would have an interest in equating privatization and a free market with Nazism ... to further the myth that Nazis where right wing
There are sections of our economy that are socialized ... no doubt about that. But even with the current bureaucratic control I haven’t heard of price controls and compulsory cartels for all manufacturers
You can call it whatever you want but then bottom line is that Nazi Germany was a doomed enterprise form the get go ... just like soviet Russia and socialist Venezuela are unsustainable...
The case can be made that ww2 was completely unnecessary and the Nazi experiment would’ve died of natural causes ... however history gave its verdict already ... there’s no such thing as a peaceful and prosperous socialist nation
I mean if you continue to deny the facts in front of your face, nothing will ever change your mind. The reality is that Nazi Germany existed for 7 years before Hitler started WW2, and in that time Germany experienced an economic miracle, thanks to Nazi sponsorship of private industry. The Nazis were able to harness the creative drive and genius of the German people, which is something for which they should absolutely be commended.
Of course the Nazi leadership made some serious errors in judgement stemming from a desire for vengeance for their treatment after WW1. But one of the things the Nazis got absolutely right was their economic platform. German GDP and GNI per capita more than doubled between the Nazis coming to power and the start of WW2. Productivity increased. Per capita income increased. Standards of living increased. Unemployment decreased. The reason these things are never talked about is that leftist academia is petrified of ever painting the Nazis in a positive light.
It was a common tactic of the Soviet Union communists going back 100 years. You are with us or you are fascist, bourgeoisie, Kulak....Orwell was a socialist and fought in the Spanish Civil War against fascists but was labeled fascist by the Soviets because we wasn't in their group (he followed Trotsky who the Soviets later assassinated). If anyone calls me that I am going to tell them it is hate speech and they should be arrested.
I don't think communism & fascism are antithetical at all, in terms of ideology. Their competition is more like sibling rivalry, than opposites.
Fascism = merger of corporate & state
Communism = absorption of corporations by state
Either way, the elites rule and the plebs get to live in a dystopian, socialist (from each according to ability, to each according to need) nightmare.
Fascism, communism, socialism, Marxism, Islamofascism - all fingers on the totalitarian hand.
Fascism was developed by a socialist, if I'm not mistaken. It's just as leftist of an ideology as communism.
Any form of socialism is slavery.
"They demonize the antidote to themselves through propaganda"... Such an apt sentence.
Socialism, communism, and fascism are three demons that fought for power in dark times. They should have stayed there but communism struck a deal and survived. All three should be forgotten; 1 demon is not the antidote to the other.
An amputation is an antidote to an infection.
I'd still rather try antibiotics first.
The choice isn't fascism or communism. There are lots of other options. And the best antidote to BOTH is Christianity and a moral populous.
It is really a global Kleptocracy.
Racine, Wisconsin is the model where propaganda began in connection with Cornell University and the College of Racine.
Ed Bernays is The Godfather of propaganda. Dr. Seuss also was a key influencer. Both are linked with Cornell.
William Lutz is The Godfather of doublespeak linked through the College of Racine.
TFW you find out the people funding communists are the ones that want to institute fascism...
Heyoo
Fascism is the party of Mussolini. Fascism, Socialism, and Comunism are the three forms of totalitarian governments spawned out of Europe in an extremely dark period in history. They should have stayed there.
Antifa is not anti-facists, they are literally facists.
Communism and Fascism are the same thing. The only difference is the propaganda they use to convince people that the people who control the laws also should control the means of production.
Similar, not the same.
Exactly the same outside the propaganda used to get you to authoritarian government.
No. Fascist killed their own people as well...and communists killed others to take their resources.
This is objectively false.
Precisely. They're both authoritarian, and I don't like either form, but there's an obvious winner there.
National socialism is the antidote to international socialism?
🤣😂
Common what kind of retarded shit is that ... not even in Germany the Nazis could hold on to power ... it’s a loser form of government for loser people
At least the communists hold on to power ... worthy enemies ... Nazis are just a joke ... a side show of history
That’s a keen observation... I really didn’t thought of it that way
Either way the little guy gets screwed... it is devilishly clever
The Nazis would be in power to this day if they hadn't followed Hitler's incompetent leadership. They had no pressing need to invade Poland, France, or the USSR. They had no pressing need to bomb Great Britain. They had no pressing need to genocide the Jews.
Imagine the Nazi regime had stopped after annexing Austria, the Sudetenland, Moravia and Silesia, then worked on gradually deporting the Jewish population to Africa or the Middle East. Germany would have become an ultra-powerful European ethnostate.
WW2 would never have happened. The Cold War would never have happened. White Guilt would never have infected the psyche of Western Europe and America. The world would be a very different place.
Oh my dear boy ... have you read “the unnecessary war”?
Hitler didn’t had to do those things ... except it was in his platform, it was practically his mandate ... it’s the only reason why anyone even considered becoming a Nazi, turns out you can’t piss off half of Europe and Russia without consequences
There cannot be a Nazi type regime without a “living space” and there cannot be a living space without war ... and there cannot be socialism without Europeans ... you’re screwed
The problem of Nazis is not the racial part, there’s plenty of ethnostates doing just fine ... it’s the socialism baby ... you can’t have a sustainable planned economy regime without theft and serfdom, turns out Europeans around Germany hate that shit
Ditch the socialism ... keep the nationalism and even the racial segregation ... there’s better historical backing for those
People became Nazis because (1) the Nazis promised economic development and (2) restoration of German national character and pride, both of which they delivered on.
I don't know where you're getting anything about socialism or a planned economy. The Nazis were heavily in favor of private industry. The de-nationalized almost everything.
The Nazis were in power for 7 full years before WW2. Before the outbreak of war, they built Germany into a European superpower with a high standard of living and a booming economy. They could have simply stayed along the same course.
The concept of lebensraum came to the Nazi party through Hess by way of his mentor Haushofer, who invented the theory of geopolitik. Like I said, it was picked up by Hitler due to bad judgment.
Really? The National Socialists did not had a planned economy?
Yeah ... that’s just not true man
The weren’t called the just nationalists
They expropriated businesses, they made 5 year plans, they instituted price controls, they made production quotas and build bridges to nowhere ... all socialists regimes work ... until you ran out of other peoples money.
It ain’t that complicated... look at Venezuela ... they had an amazing standard of living for the decade chavez was in power ... but they made the mistake of not invading the next door country and pillage it ... now they’re broke.
Giving Hitler superpowers ... he directed Germany at the whim of his finger ... is the comforting illusion Germans and socialists (communists too) tell themselves to avoid recognizing that all socialism points in the same direction ... war and misery
Hitler has as much power as any other king had ... recall he survived many assassination attempts... that doesn’t sound like a god emperor to me
It sounds like you have been reading too many leftist text books. I suggest you research some actual facts about the economy in Nazi Germany.
From ultra-far-left wikipedia:
After the Nazis took power, industries were privatized en masse. Several banks, shipyards, railway lines, shipping lines, welfare organizations, and more were privatized. The Nazi government took the stance that enterprises should be in private hands wherever possible. State ownership was to be avoided unless it was absolutely necessary for rearmament or the war effort, and even in those cases the Reich often insisted on the inclusion in the contract of an option clause according to which the private firm operating the plant was entitled to purchase it. However, the privatization was applied within a framework of increasing control of the state over the whole economy through regulation and political interference, as laid out in the 1933 Act for the Formation of Compulsory Cartels, which gave the government a role in regulating and controlling the cartels that had been earlier formed in the Weimar Republic under the Cartel Act of 1923. These had mostly regulated themselves from 1923 to 1933.
In short, the economy of Nazi Germany was almost exactly like our own economy: private businesses operating within a framework of government regulation.
Just as US magacorporations like Lockheed Martin, Boeing, US Steel, General Foods, etc operate in the US under a mountain of regulations, the same was true of arms manufacturers and heavy industry cartels in Nazi Germany.
And just as small business and entrepreneurship used to be encouraged in the US (until fairly recently), the same was true in Nazi Germany.
I’m afraid I disagree with you
I understand why Wikipedia would have an interest in equating privatization and a free market with Nazism ... to further the myth that Nazis where right wing
There are sections of our economy that are socialized ... no doubt about that. But even with the current bureaucratic control I haven’t heard of price controls and compulsory cartels for all manufacturers
You can call it whatever you want but then bottom line is that Nazi Germany was a doomed enterprise form the get go ... just like soviet Russia and socialist Venezuela are unsustainable...
The case can be made that ww2 was completely unnecessary and the Nazi experiment would’ve died of natural causes ... however history gave its verdict already ... there’s no such thing as a peaceful and prosperous socialist nation
I mean if you continue to deny the facts in front of your face, nothing will ever change your mind. The reality is that Nazi Germany existed for 7 years before Hitler started WW2, and in that time Germany experienced an economic miracle, thanks to Nazi sponsorship of private industry. The Nazis were able to harness the creative drive and genius of the German people, which is something for which they should absolutely be commended.
Of course the Nazi leadership made some serious errors in judgement stemming from a desire for vengeance for their treatment after WW1. But one of the things the Nazis got absolutely right was their economic platform. German GDP and GNI per capita more than doubled between the Nazis coming to power and the start of WW2. Productivity increased. Per capita income increased. Standards of living increased. Unemployment decreased. The reason these things are never talked about is that leftist academia is petrified of ever painting the Nazis in a positive light.
You'll figure it out one day.
History has made its judgement ... might as well spend your time trying to revive absolute monarchy, imperial Rome or Hunter gatherers...
It’s been tried ... it died ... it won’t make a comeback
Get over it
It worked for Pinochet
You mean the guy who hired the Chicago boys ?
I don’t think you know what socialism is