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Youtube just NUKED Mike Lindell's live interview off of RSBN's YT page. I was watching it and suddenly it just cut off and said "This video is unavailable." and its gone.
I'm apprehensive about Trump using IA for three reasons.
First, Trump doesn't like to start or escalate conflicts. He would be effectively starting a civil war if he used IA to take control of the government without some extremely damning evidence nobody has seen yet. I doubt he has that kind of evidence. If he did, the best time to share it would have been after SCOTUS dismissed the Texas case, indicating the court of public opinion was the only way forward. Instead of seizing power and starting a civil war, Trump will let Democrats escalate tensions until they are the clear protagonists of a civil war.
Second, Trump would be setting a dangerous precedent for IA to be used by Democrats in the future. Our side tries to play by the rules but you know Democrats would take any chance they can to bend logic to support using IA outside of the original intent. Think using IA to flip state elections or put all conservatives in camps because we're "insurrectionists" against the Democrat government simply because we disagree with their style of governance.
Third, there is no Constitutional path for Trump to seize power. If he used IA at this point, it would be very disruptive to processes and rules mandated by the Constitution. Effectively, he would be destroying the Constitution and the country would be finished.
The text of the letter Mike is holding may have a simpler explanation. Trump may be holding onto the possibility of using IA to quell unrest, and that is it. I don't like the fact Biden and the Dems stole the presidency, but we can't change that without violence at this point. We have to look for peaceful solutions before looking to bloody solutions.
No Act or law can supersede the Constitution. If the Constitution says the Congress determines the next President through the electoral process, then Trump can't use the Insurrection Act to make himself President without violating the Constitution.
I really wish there was a remedy for this situation in the Constitution, but it wasn't designed to account for large conspiracies.
The Constitution also outlines a process in which state legislatures are in charge of election procedures in their states. The executive branches in a number of states colluded with the judicial branches and stripped state legislators of their constitutional authority. This election being certified was unconstitutional, it was unconstitutional before any of the certifications even took place.
If Trump were to willingly allow this to go forward, I would say that he is complicit in the sense that his inaction allowed the constitutional rights of every voting citizen in this country to be stripped from them along with state governments and so on. He has a duty to defend the Constitution, I don't know that allowing someone to break the rules and game the system is what I would consider defending the Constitution. If Biden and Harris were charged as they should be, they would no longer be eligible to hold office. Probably a large majority of the other people that might have some claim to the Presidency after that would also have to go down for their part in these crimes.
I think that's where we disagree. We lived through Obama. We can live with Biden.
What you seem to want is a short-term victory, while ignoring the long-term cost. What I want is a long-term victory. That means a fundamental shift in how Americans view their relationship with government. Nobody will change their ideology by force or coercion. The Democrats will try, and will achieve the reverse in the process.
I guess the Founding Father, Thomas Jefferson, was unconstitutional due to enacting the Insurrection Act in 1808 then.
And, I sort of think that using 3rd parties to modify the votes cast, courts dismissing legal challenges to the vote, second impeachment over nothing and the Left/Rino refusing to cooperate combines into a pretty nasty form of insurrection in my opinion, nearly surpassing what Jefferson was dealing with. Hell, I would call it conspiracy.
I guess the Founding Father, Thomas Jefferson, was unconstitutional due to enacting the Insurrection Act in 1808 then.
If you think I am suggesting any use of the Insurrection Act is unconstitutional, then you misunderstand my argument. I am only suggesting that it would be a severe breach of the Constitution to use IA to change the results of a Presidential election after the electoral votes have been certified by Congress.
The framework set in the US Constitution doesn't have remedies for such a large conspiracy as the one we have seen over the past months. Trump can use IA and violate the Constitution, or he can do nothing to stop Democrats, and let them trample on the Constitution. Either way is a terrible option for the US.
It doesn't require violence, just a mass arrest by the military.
Trump wouldn't be setting a precedent as the IA has been used several times before.
There is a consitutional path available. If the election is annulled then a new election will be forced. Trump would need to be re-elected but this time it would be a fair election under martial law and a landslide for Trump :)
Trump is more aware than most people of how close China's coup is to reality. If anyone is going to stand up to it, it will be Trump.
Mass arrests by the military would lead to violence from the Left. It would effectively trigger a civil war.
IA has never been used to change the results of a Presidential election. That is the precedent which is dangerous to set.
Which part of the Constitution describes annulment of Presidential elections? I couldn't find it and I'm fairly sure that isn't an option. We have impeachment for Presidents, and that is it.
I want this situation to be made right as much as anyone else on this site. I also don't want Trump to do something that would make the situation worse, but I am sure he is already aware of the potential consequences of everything he is considering.
We've had violence from the left for nearly a year and it's about to get much worse no matter what.
This isn't changing the result - it's upholding the result
By default, if there is no (valid) election then an election must be held.
Literally nothing Trump could do would make this worse, even nuking China would be an improvement. Read 1984 and let me know if you think anything could be worse than that.
That violence was from a faction of the Left. We can deal with one faction if the mayors and governors aren't cucked. We shouldn't escalate the situation to an all-out civil war of left vs right. Let the Dems be the protagonists, not us.
I understand your point, but I am referring to changing the (illegally and illegitimately) certified electoral votes. IA can't be used to override that Constitutional process
There is no process for annulment of a Presidential election in the Constitution. Nobody has the authority to do that without an amendment being added.
If Trump's actions start the civil war, he goes down as the bad guy in history. If Dems' actions start it, we win.
Are you sure that a military tribunal can't annul it? I honestly don't know but the rules probably change under martial law. Courts can invalidate rulings if fraud is proven, for example.
Trump acting now, using clear evidence and due process through military tribunals, would save so much suffering and death compared to civil war. Trump will be forever the bad guy if he becomes the president who let a foreign power take over when he could have stopped it.
The Left thinks they have won. Taking that away from them is like taking candy from a manchild. It has to be done carefully and you have to substitute it with something else or they will fight back.
I think this country is on a path towards a civil war, as a result of the past four years of abuse from Democrats. The next two years of tyranny will bring overwhelming numbers to our side and defeating the far Left will be much less bloody when they know they are vastly outnumbered.
Have patience. America will get better, but we may have to endure some dark days before we see the light again.
I don't like either option. Use IA and destroy the Constitution and the country, or let Dems have power and watch them destroy the country both sound very bad.
A real leader is good at finding alternative solutions. Hopefully Trump has something else in mind. If not, we're going to have some dark days ahead.
Do you really think the Democrats that blatantly stole this election give a flying fuck about the Constitution? Stopping this coup is our only shot at saving the Constitution and this country.
Trump tried to show the evidence and use the courts, but the swamp is too deep and there are only so many options left to deal with this. It's not like Trump can just pull an alternative solution out of his ass and summon those scientologist alien spirit things that live in the volcano to come gobble up the evil Democrats and RINOs while they sleep and then take them back to the planet Zorg.
It is definitely a frustrating situation to not have any good options available. I'm just trying to point out that IA is not a good option, even if it gets us what we want. No matter how justified you or I feel it would be for Trump to use IA, the consequences must be considered.
I hope it doesn't come down to that, but you also have to weight the consequences of letting the Dems get away with this. Let's look at a few different scenarios for life after January 20th 2021.
Scenario 1: Biden becomes president
Democrats controll all three branches of the government and now they know they can get away with stealing elections without any consequences.
Best case?: Democrats control everything and there will never be another fair election but they let us believe we still have a say in things by allowing RINOs to win some elections. Democrats let us peasants live on a short leash, conservatives are silenced, MSM and Big Tech continue unchecked, our country is sold out to China, our children are brainwashed, freedom of speech and our right to bear arms is taken away and they shove their progressive and socialist BS down our throats until we all believe there are an infinite number of genders. You keep your head down, mouth shut and do what you are told. If you step out of line your social credit score will be negatively affected which could lead to you taking a trip to your local reeducation camp and if your score gets too low you get Epstein'd.
Worst case: Democrats crank the censorship up to 11, most conservatives are labeled as "white supremacists" (regardless of their skin color) or "domestic terrorists" and that's their excuse to start taking our guns away and rounding us up. Ends in Civil War or a conservative holocaust and everyone else lives in the above case.
Scenario 2: Trump stays in office
This proves the system isn't 100% corrupt and that we have a chance to save our country but it's going to be an even bigger up hill battle than the first 4 years.
Best case: Trump has one last option and he's able to wake up a majority of the American public. Antifa and BLM throw a fit in a few cities but Trump puts a quick end to that and the tide begins to turn and corrupt politicians and those involved with the election fraud are prosecuted. A majority of Americans begin to realize Democrats, the MSM and Big Tech have been lying to us and trying to divide us. Than a majority of Americans are onboard to MAGA.
Worst case: Trump has to involve the military and things get ugly. If Trump isn't able to get the truth out and expose the Democrats, MSM and Big Tech to the American people then it becomes a Civil War.
There will never be another time where the fraud is as evident as it is now. Trump won this election and we are in the right. I wish it never came down to invoking the IA or involving the military but I also wish the Democrats wouldn't have stolen the election and we could have continued living our lives and kept MAGA. I dont think invoking the IA is a good option, but at this point it is one of the only options left.
I pray that Trump has a peaceful way to stay in office. But if it comes down to it then we have to make a stand now while we have a chance to save our country, or else we kick the can down the road a few years and the swamp becomes even more entrenched and then the only thing we have left to fight for is our lives.
Our movement is gaining strength. As they try to squash MAGA, they send more to our side. Twitter and Facebook's recent actions are proof. All of the redpilling over the past four years is even more proof. America is waking up.
If Biden takes office, Democrats will show everyone their tyranny and wake up more Americans faster. They will not last long if they try to impose reeducation camps or repeal 2A.
Will conflict over the Presidency end if Trump uses IA to seize power? Not likely. The Left will act as if they won legitimately and fight back. Tensions will only escalate.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact they stole the election doesn't provide us with justification to do anything we want. We have to find a legal way forward for now. Support for our cause will grow over the next two years as Dems show the masses who the real tyrants are.
I believe Trump, like many others, do not want to bear the burden wrought by their decisions. I’m inclined to believe that many of the judges and state legislators weren’t all necessarily “in on it” but simply didn’t want blame placed on them for the destruction that would ensue
(GA republicans in said they don’t want to feel responsible for Atlanta burning down)
So then they are cowards at best, afraid to do what is right in the positions granted to them by both God and the citizens of this country for fear of "consequences". Well i hope the consequences of abdication are 1000 fold worse for them then
Speak for yourself. Trump is not God. He can and has made mistakes. If he fails to use all of the powers at his disposal to take down this obvious coup, he is failing himself, and most of all, the country.
It was obviously released to get the media to talk about things, perhaps as a distraction. They have been doing this since the primary campaign, and they fall for it every time.
You can tell Mike is expecting that he's being watched, the way he's looking around to make sure. And then he just so happens to stop and chill for a while before leaving? Yeah, them photographing the notes is 100% intentional on his part.
Yep. As said above, 'No way to start this late in the game' is very true, and that's because it has already been started. That's why nothing ever comes of any of these things, whatever is to happen has already been kicked off, probably years ago. Considering the enemy op definitely started over a year ago, any counter op would have also started then or before.
I never thought I'd be sitting here on the computer theorizing about an infomercial pillow salesmen who beat a crack cocaine addiction meeting with real estate mogul and former reality tv star Donald Trump, who is now president, about their plans to drain the corrupt Washington DC establishment...
From what Trump is speaking, and with all the tweets from the WH, it looks like he conceded, surrendered and will not invoke the IA. And that he made a deal with the DS.
Keep in mind, he replaced Esper and some other officials back in November, everyone here thought he was prepping for a potential civil war. Along with switching around DoD organization to his benefit.
He also went to that army and navy game, to thundering applause.
On the 6th, everyone doubt that Trump can use the IA, due to the Pentagon obstructing him. He appears to concede, then immediately moves 7k troops to DC, and now 30k? Now they're in DC and the Pentagon can't block him anymore.
Then he starts declassifying and releasing fraud docs and EO's. So he didn't take a deal with the DS? And why hasn't he resigned?
Now Biden delayed his rehearsal. And where is he? Shouldn't he be meeting with Trump, the same way Trump met with Obama?
I have a feeling the bombshell miracle will happen but not coming from Trump himself. Right now he's acting like he's given up so he can't be accused of planning something. When Biden is exposed and can't be inaugurated Trump will act surprised and like he had nothing to do with it.
Who will be this military leader that gets a statue for defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. Stop the steal.
Okay. So this is driving me nuts. I've seen no photos of this from a distance and if there were photos, they would be at an angle and the lighting would not have been even.
This is fake news. Could be from Trump or could be from Biden. I don't know and I don't believe it.
Photos can be digitally straightened out its quite easy. Windows has a program that can do that built in. The lighting is even because it all in shade.
Its clearly digitally enhanced a bit, probably to make the letters pop more, and to blow up the letters to make them readable.
We all want it. At this point it's America or no America..
CORRECTION: It's America or America with 100% open carry.
Youtube just NUKED Mike Lindell's live interview off of RSBN's YT page. I was watching it and suddenly it just cut off and said "This video is unavailable." and its gone.
I'm apprehensive about Trump using IA for three reasons.
First, Trump doesn't like to start or escalate conflicts. He would be effectively starting a civil war if he used IA to take control of the government without some extremely damning evidence nobody has seen yet. I doubt he has that kind of evidence. If he did, the best time to share it would have been after SCOTUS dismissed the Texas case, indicating the court of public opinion was the only way forward. Instead of seizing power and starting a civil war, Trump will let Democrats escalate tensions until they are the clear protagonists of a civil war.
Second, Trump would be setting a dangerous precedent for IA to be used by Democrats in the future. Our side tries to play by the rules but you know Democrats would take any chance they can to bend logic to support using IA outside of the original intent. Think using IA to flip state elections or put all conservatives in camps because we're "insurrectionists" against the Democrat government simply because we disagree with their style of governance.
Third, there is no Constitutional path for Trump to seize power. If he used IA at this point, it would be very disruptive to processes and rules mandated by the Constitution. Effectively, he would be destroying the Constitution and the country would be finished.
The text of the letter Mike is holding may have a simpler explanation. Trump may be holding onto the possibility of using IA to quell unrest, and that is it. I don't like the fact Biden and the Dems stole the presidency, but we can't change that without violence at this point. We have to look for peaceful solutions before looking to bloody solutions.
Trump doesn't like to lose. Trump loves America and has agreed to uphold the constitution. He doesn't like to start or escalate conflicts...lol.
I'm no lawyer, but using IA to seize power is not Constitutional. You can't claim to uphold the Constitution while asking Trump to violate it.
Using the Insurrection Act to stop an insurrection is exactly what it is for...
No Act or law can supersede the Constitution. If the Constitution says the Congress determines the next President through the electoral process, then Trump can't use the Insurrection Act to make himself President without violating the Constitution.
I really wish there was a remedy for this situation in the Constitution, but it wasn't designed to account for large conspiracies.
Explain literally the entirety of 2020 then.
Unconstitutional BS implemented by tyrannical leftists. Unfortunately, we had to comply or be pushed out of society.
The Constitution also outlines a process in which state legislatures are in charge of election procedures in their states. The executive branches in a number of states colluded with the judicial branches and stripped state legislators of their constitutional authority. This election being certified was unconstitutional, it was unconstitutional before any of the certifications even took place.
If Trump were to willingly allow this to go forward, I would say that he is complicit in the sense that his inaction allowed the constitutional rights of every voting citizen in this country to be stripped from them along with state governments and so on. He has a duty to defend the Constitution, I don't know that allowing someone to break the rules and game the system is what I would consider defending the Constitution. If Biden and Harris were charged as they should be, they would no longer be eligible to hold office. Probably a large majority of the other people that might have some claim to the Presidency after that would also have to go down for their part in these crimes.
If no one stands up now this country is finished.
I think that's where we disagree. We lived through Obama. We can live with Biden.
What you seem to want is a short-term victory, while ignoring the long-term cost. What I want is a long-term victory. That means a fundamental shift in how Americans view their relationship with government. Nobody will change their ideology by force or coercion. The Democrats will try, and will achieve the reverse in the process.
I guess the Founding Father, Thomas Jefferson, was unconstitutional due to enacting the Insurrection Act in 1808 then.
And, I sort of think that using 3rd parties to modify the votes cast, courts dismissing legal challenges to the vote, second impeachment over nothing and the Left/Rino refusing to cooperate combines into a pretty nasty form of insurrection in my opinion, nearly surpassing what Jefferson was dealing with. Hell, I would call it conspiracy.
If you think I am suggesting any use of the Insurrection Act is unconstitutional, then you misunderstand my argument. I am only suggesting that it would be a severe breach of the Constitution to use IA to change the results of a Presidential election after the electoral votes have been certified by Congress.
The framework set in the US Constitution doesn't have remedies for such a large conspiracy as the one we have seen over the past months. Trump can use IA and violate the Constitution, or he can do nothing to stop Democrats, and let them trample on the Constitution. Either way is a terrible option for the US.
Mass arrests by the military would lead to violence from the Left. It would effectively trigger a civil war.
IA has never been used to change the results of a Presidential election. That is the precedent which is dangerous to set.
Which part of the Constitution describes annulment of Presidential elections? I couldn't find it and I'm fairly sure that isn't an option. We have impeachment for Presidents, and that is it.
I want this situation to be made right as much as anyone else on this site. I also don't want Trump to do something that would make the situation worse, but I am sure he is already aware of the potential consequences of everything he is considering.
That violence was from a faction of the Left. We can deal with one faction if the mayors and governors aren't cucked. We shouldn't escalate the situation to an all-out civil war of left vs right. Let the Dems be the protagonists, not us.
I understand your point, but I am referring to changing the (illegally and illegitimately) certified electoral votes. IA can't be used to override that Constitutional process
There is no process for annulment of a Presidential election in the Constitution. Nobody has the authority to do that without an amendment being added.
If Trump's actions start the civil war, he goes down as the bad guy in history. If Dems' actions start it, we win.
p.s. thanks for the interesting exchange :)
The Left thinks they have won. Taking that away from them is like taking candy from a manchild. It has to be done carefully and you have to substitute it with something else or they will fight back.
I think this country is on a path towards a civil war, as a result of the past four years of abuse from Democrats. The next two years of tyranny will bring overwhelming numbers to our side and defeating the far Left will be much less bloody when they know they are vastly outnumbered.
Have patience. America will get better, but we may have to endure some dark days before we see the light again.
We all like peace, but the Democrats don't want that. So we are forced with the IA option
What they are doing and have done is insurrection.
I don't like either option. Use IA and destroy the Constitution and the country, or let Dems have power and watch them destroy the country both sound very bad.
A real leader is good at finding alternative solutions. Hopefully Trump has something else in mind. If not, we're going to have some dark days ahead.
Do you really think the Democrats that blatantly stole this election give a flying fuck about the Constitution? Stopping this coup is our only shot at saving the Constitution and this country.
Trump tried to show the evidence and use the courts, but the swamp is too deep and there are only so many options left to deal with this. It's not like Trump can just pull an alternative solution out of his ass and summon those scientologist alien spirit things that live in the volcano to come gobble up the evil Democrats and RINOs while they sleep and then take them back to the planet Zorg.
It is definitely a frustrating situation to not have any good options available. I'm just trying to point out that IA is not a good option, even if it gets us what we want. No matter how justified you or I feel it would be for Trump to use IA, the consequences must be considered.
I hope it doesn't come down to that, but you also have to weight the consequences of letting the Dems get away with this. Let's look at a few different scenarios for life after January 20th 2021.
Scenario 1: Biden becomes president
Democrats controll all three branches of the government and now they know they can get away with stealing elections without any consequences.
Best case?: Democrats control everything and there will never be another fair election but they let us believe we still have a say in things by allowing RINOs to win some elections. Democrats let us peasants live on a short leash, conservatives are silenced, MSM and Big Tech continue unchecked, our country is sold out to China, our children are brainwashed, freedom of speech and our right to bear arms is taken away and they shove their progressive and socialist BS down our throats until we all believe there are an infinite number of genders. You keep your head down, mouth shut and do what you are told. If you step out of line your social credit score will be negatively affected which could lead to you taking a trip to your local reeducation camp and if your score gets too low you get Epstein'd.
Worst case: Democrats crank the censorship up to 11, most conservatives are labeled as "white supremacists" (regardless of their skin color) or "domestic terrorists" and that's their excuse to start taking our guns away and rounding us up. Ends in Civil War or a conservative holocaust and everyone else lives in the above case.
Scenario 2: Trump stays in office
This proves the system isn't 100% corrupt and that we have a chance to save our country but it's going to be an even bigger up hill battle than the first 4 years.
Best case: Trump has one last option and he's able to wake up a majority of the American public. Antifa and BLM throw a fit in a few cities but Trump puts a quick end to that and the tide begins to turn and corrupt politicians and those involved with the election fraud are prosecuted. A majority of Americans begin to realize Democrats, the MSM and Big Tech have been lying to us and trying to divide us. Than a majority of Americans are onboard to MAGA.
Worst case: Trump has to involve the military and things get ugly. If Trump isn't able to get the truth out and expose the Democrats, MSM and Big Tech to the American people then it becomes a Civil War.
There will never be another time where the fraud is as evident as it is now. Trump won this election and we are in the right. I wish it never came down to invoking the IA or involving the military but I also wish the Democrats wouldn't have stolen the election and we could have continued living our lives and kept MAGA. I dont think invoking the IA is a good option, but at this point it is one of the only options left.
I pray that Trump has a peaceful way to stay in office. But if it comes down to it then we have to make a stand now while we have a chance to save our country, or else we kick the can down the road a few years and the swamp becomes even more entrenched and then the only thing we have left to fight for is our lives.
Our movement is gaining strength. As they try to squash MAGA, they send more to our side. Twitter and Facebook's recent actions are proof. All of the redpilling over the past four years is even more proof. America is waking up.
If Biden takes office, Democrats will show everyone their tyranny and wake up more Americans faster. They will not last long if they try to impose reeducation camps or repeal 2A.
I don't think they're will be a peaceful solution. They know shit is about to hit the fan which is why military and fema are everywhere.
First - Trump didn't start this conflict. But America is asking him to end it.
Second - the fact the Uniparty STOLE the election in broad moonlight sets a pretty fucking dangerous precedent, no?
Third - The Constitution LITERALLY ASKS YOU TO DEFEND AGAINST ENEMIES FOREIGN and DOMESTIC.
I FEEL LIKE I'M TAKING CRAZY PILLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will conflict over the Presidency end if Trump uses IA to seize power? Not likely. The Left will act as if they won legitimately and fight back. Tensions will only escalate.
Two wrongs don't make a right. The fact they stole the election doesn't provide us with justification to do anything we want. We have to find a legal way forward for now. Support for our cause will grow over the next two years as Dems show the masses who the real tyrants are.
Fuck that noise, they tried to steal a presidential election. Their nothing worse than that. Let the blood flow
If POTUS fails to do this, he is derelict in duty...
Agreed. He has an obligation.
He swore to protect us from foreign and DOMESTIC. If he doesnt he committed treason.
He spoke a lot about other people having courage, I wish he'd show the courage he asks of others.
I believe Trump, like many others, do not want to bear the burden wrought by their decisions. I’m inclined to believe that many of the judges and state legislators weren’t all necessarily “in on it” but simply didn’t want blame placed on them for the destruction that would ensue
(GA republicans in said they don’t want to feel responsible for Atlanta burning down)
So then they are cowards at best, afraid to do what is right in the positions granted to them by both God and the citizens of this country for fear of "consequences". Well i hope the consequences of abdication are 1000 fold worse for them then
Pretty much
You're 100% on point with this.
We support Trump here, if he decides it is not the best course of action,
then we have to support that too, but FUCK would I want to know why,
because with what we know, nothing fucking makes sense anymore if he does not.
Love Trump, but i will not support not doing it.
Speak for yourself. Trump is not God. He can and has made mistakes. If he fails to use all of the powers at his disposal to take down this obvious coup, he is failing himself, and most of all, the country.
That said, I'm not giving up hope.
If he is trying to convince Trump, then that means its not going to happen. No way to start this late in the game.
It was obviously released to get the media to talk about things, perhaps as a distraction. They have been doing this since the primary campaign, and they fall for it every time.
You can tell Mike is expecting that he's being watched, the way he's looking around to make sure. And then he just so happens to stop and chill for a while before leaving? Yeah, them photographing the notes is 100% intentional on his part.
Yep. As said above, 'No way to start this late in the game' is very true, and that's because it has already been started. That's why nothing ever comes of any of these things, whatever is to happen has already been kicked off, probably years ago. Considering the enemy op definitely started over a year ago, any counter op would have also started then or before.
Agreed. And maybe Lindell is being used (with or without his knowledge), as a red herring.
I wish Trump would. Has the Pillow guy made any statements at all since then?
I don't think so, it's been unsettlingly quiet.
I never thought I'd be sitting here on the computer theorizing about an infomercial pillow salesmen who beat a crack cocaine addiction meeting with real estate mogul and former reality tv star Donald Trump, who is now president, about their plans to drain the corrupt Washington DC establishment...
Abraham Lincoln grew up poor and impoverished. He was a farmer and carpenter before he became a self taught lawyer.
Going from crack addict to making awesome pillows and bedding is just as honorable.
stick 'em pillows up democrats asses ...
The based pillow guy to the rescue. He is the cracken (head)
From what Trump is speaking, and with all the tweets from the WH, it looks like he conceded, surrendered and will not invoke the IA. And that he made a deal with the DS.
Keep in mind, he replaced Esper and some other officials back in November, everyone here thought he was prepping for a potential civil war. Along with switching around DoD organization to his benefit.
He also went to that army and navy game, to thundering applause.
On the 6th, everyone doubt that Trump can use the IA, due to the Pentagon obstructing him. He appears to concede, then immediately moves 7k troops to DC, and now 30k? Now they're in DC and the Pentagon can't block him anymore.
Then he starts declassifying and releasing fraud docs and EO's. So he didn't take a deal with the DS? And why hasn't he resigned?
Now Biden delayed his rehearsal. And where is he? Shouldn't he be meeting with Trump, the same way Trump met with Obama?
His words say surrender.
But his actions?
I have a feeling the bombshell miracle will happen but not coming from Trump himself. Right now he's acting like he's given up so he can't be accused of planning something. When Biden is exposed and can't be inaugurated Trump will act surprised and like he had nothing to do with it.
Anyone got a working link to this Mary Fanning/ Alan Jones report yet?
this guy is full of crap and manufactured a narrative from many bad assumptions.
Oh great he sure wants to kill the populist movement
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Well no shit bud, everybody’s been saying it but nothing has happened
Who will be this military leader that gets a statue for defending the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC. Stop the steal.
Always give the best advice after a good night sleep.
More coincidence for the conspiracy theorists...
My Pillow CEO...
Sounds eerily like...
My Pelosi O...
Hmmm...
The is disinformation.
Liddell let it be photographed to throw off the msm.
Okay. So this is driving me nuts. I've seen no photos of this from a distance and if there were photos, they would be at an angle and the lighting would not have been even.
This is fake news. Could be from Trump or could be from Biden. I don't know and I don't believe it.
Photos can be digitally straightened out its quite easy. Windows has a program that can do that built in. The lighting is even because it all in shade.
Its clearly digitally enhanced a bit, probably to make the letters pop more, and to blow up the letters to make them readable.