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nuhbin 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'll never understand how people can fully believe something they just learned about 5 minutes ago

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Qcumber [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you suggesting this is not true? If so, based on what?

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nuhbin 1 point ago +1 / -0

whatever debt you believe is incurred in our names that makes us slaves can't be called in, which makes it fake

for what it's worth all finance is fake, and the only things that make it real are collateral or the confidence that the debt will be honored

a secret debt that has no mechanism for being called in and doesn't have weighed and measured collateral isn't a debt at all

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Qcumber [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Interesting argument, no citation to authority (e.g. statute, such as found in the article I linked to)

I see it differently, consider this, th “Covid pandemic” mandatory shutdowns, face covering, sheep comply, go along, it’s merely conditioning, How about race propaganda e.g. you owe someone something because of the color of your skin.

When people loose their personhood, and value “others,” or the “collective” more than themselves, it’s not such a stretch to have them work, for others. Think socialism or communism.

While I agree no one can show up with your birth certificate and collect you as a slave, but if your corporate country leveraged you and stands trillions of dollars in debt and that debt gets called, subversively turning your populous into servants is ostensibly the same result & the way things are going that scenario isn’t too far off.

So contrary to your belief I believe “we” are weighed and measured (literally at birth) and per our social status, this value established. (There’s a risk with all investment of course). I also believe the debt that used us as collateral can be called in as described above.

When we throw off the shackles of the Corporation, we will be free, until then, we are not, IMHO

& return to the gold standard so the work we do is exchanged or preserved with currency that actually has value.

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nuhbin 1 point ago +1 / -0

there is a very good argument that Americans citizens are themselves used as collateral for the central banks, I won't argue against that because I believe it is true

but when you think about that "fact" in the grand scheme of things all you're really doing is describing modern central banking

the reason that doesn't make me afraid is that I don't think the central bankers have the means to call in the debt, so they fall back on trying to start shit

I'm not afraid of them starting shit because we will most assuredly be the ones who finish it (in my opinion)

the best they can do is cheat s puppet president into office who promised to run our debt up a few trillion a year, and the bankers get their ends

all in all I feel like we are in way better shape than almost every other country in this regsrds

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Qcumber [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good not to be afraid.

The simple fact that we work and MUST give 30+% of our money to the gov’t who then sends more overseas (then back into their pockets) than they commit to support their own citizens screams slavery to me!!! We are already slaves working for them!!!

If we want a quality of life, we need to work, if we work we MUST give them some money. Ergo, the ones who work are slave workers, the ones who don’t are suppressed by various societal means (crime, drugs, poverty, welfare, poor “public” education). If we want to travel, we need their permission, if we get married, we need their approval etc. those are the ways they control us & keep track of their slaves and THEN, come the end of the year they want to make sure they got what they demanded so WE have to pay accountants to tell them EVERYTHING and prove we paid our “obligation.”

That’s how it’s been.

If you’ve been paying attention the CCP has their claws in us, They like more control over their slaves. The made a virus (which isn’t terribly harmful) directed their lackeys to lock us down, demand we mask up, don’t socialize, don’t work, they are literally breaking people!!! They are also seeing a population that is very suggestible, the sheep. They turn those against the thinkers, script the MSM the sheep watch to distort reality, stoke hate and division (divided we fall).

Biden is owned by China, they want to control us and our great resources. Whose going to defend us if Biden is pres? He will execute their plan. Bill gates already proposed a vaccine passport, everyone will need if they want to work, travel, etc. the vaccine, has nano particles and MRNA, literally changing your genes, it’s deadly (but I believe not being administered US). Once vaccinated, we will be controllable, literally.

We are standing at a juncture where we will either be free, thanks to the work of our amazing military with uncompromising integrity, and our Great POTUS, or we will be further enslaved with no chance for freedom.

Thank god POTUS has got this and will, literally, be freeing us from the ties that have bound us for approx 100 years

It’s a great time to be Alive my Fren, freedom is so close I can smell it ... or is that popcorn? WWG1WGA 😁