nah, if i had a god, he wouldnt sit idly by whilst his followers had this done to them. because heres the thing, if youre wrong and theres nothing after death or worse yet rebirth here(most likely imo) were going through hell for nothing. if im wrong then send me to hell because i aint suffering through this for some sadistic fuck to stand by and watch us all be tortured by biden, might as well burn to make my last stand, aint no ones bitch.
Your comment leads me to believe that your concept of the history of the human condition is a grain of sand in a universe of desert.
I would suggest to you that we are not going through hell, currently. By any stretch of the imagination. Any discomfort you temporarily feel at this point is likely interpreted through a first world lens in the most advanced civilization ever to exist on earth.
Sack up. You're not going to make it if THIS is what makes you uncomfortable.
And if I'm wrong and God and hell don't exist, then I lose nothing. This existence and suffering and joy and happiness are just all meaningless. I don't believe that, however.
I think hard times make strong men and women. And God gives us grace and mercy and hope while our weak parts are broken down to build something better. But if you don't believe then I could see how life would be an endless string of disappointment.
hey man, if this actually goes down in a way i can appreciate, i might just believe again. but if i end up not being able to feed my family, and persecuted, i just dont feel like torment on them would make US stronger. i surely cant handle the pressure. i would fight till my dying breathe. but to see my family suffer and not shake my fist in anger at the sky is just something i cant be excepted to do. keep in mind i used to believe, but my prayers have fallen on deaf ears one too many times. it may seem confusing but i certainly live as close theologically speaking to being a christian.i always try my best to be patient and merciful, i am forgiving to others, i try to be generous, i do not engage in degeneracy. but i am only human and have many flaws im sure... if there is a god he will be understanding on how i lost my faith in such trying times, as the only god id want there to be would at the very least be merciful in light of my broken hearted attempts to be more christ like. if he has no mercy, then he is not love. For the record thanks for engaging with me, i feel so lost and hurt.
You're human. I'm human. The world is lost and confused. I dont pretend that I have all the answers. Smarter people than I have devoted their lives to understanding the Bible and why God allows suffering and lost their faith or still continue in their faith despite all their questions.
I actually went to church this morning after having stayed out of church for over a decade. I just bawled my eyes out for the same reasons you listed above. I'm scared for my children and my siblings and their children. I'm scared for you and for your family.
Jesus is the rock I am choosing to cling to in a world where other humans also have free will and use that to do unspeakable evil to others. I can't function without hope in a savior and a just and loving God who wants to draw us back to a relationship with him.
Thats just me. But if you ever need anything, reach out. The early church went through the same things we are going to go through. Our Rome is falling. We will make it. God has blessed us with hope and a community to lean on when things get bad. Be there for others. True followers of Christ will be there for you. Thats my mission anyway.
nah, if i had a god, he wouldnt sit idly by whilst his followers had this done to them. because heres the thing, if youre wrong and theres nothing after death or worse yet rebirth here(most likely imo) were going through hell for nothing. if im wrong then send me to hell because i aint suffering through this for some sadistic fuck to stand by and watch us all be tortured by biden, might as well burn to make my last stand, aint no ones bitch.
Your comment leads me to believe that your concept of the history of the human condition is a grain of sand in a universe of desert.
I would suggest to you that we are not going through hell, currently. By any stretch of the imagination. Any discomfort you temporarily feel at this point is likely interpreted through a first world lens in the most advanced civilization ever to exist on earth.
Sack up. You're not going to make it if THIS is what makes you uncomfortable.
And if I'm wrong and God and hell don't exist, then I lose nothing. This existence and suffering and joy and happiness are just all meaningless. I don't believe that, however.
I think hard times make strong men and women. And God gives us grace and mercy and hope while our weak parts are broken down to build something better. But if you don't believe then I could see how life would be an endless string of disappointment.
hey man, if this actually goes down in a way i can appreciate, i might just believe again. but if i end up not being able to feed my family, and persecuted, i just dont feel like torment on them would make US stronger. i surely cant handle the pressure. i would fight till my dying breathe. but to see my family suffer and not shake my fist in anger at the sky is just something i cant be excepted to do. keep in mind i used to believe, but my prayers have fallen on deaf ears one too many times. it may seem confusing but i certainly live as close theologically speaking to being a christian.i always try my best to be patient and merciful, i am forgiving to others, i try to be generous, i do not engage in degeneracy. but i am only human and have many flaws im sure... if there is a god he will be understanding on how i lost my faith in such trying times, as the only god id want there to be would at the very least be merciful in light of my broken hearted attempts to be more christ like. if he has no mercy, then he is not love. For the record thanks for engaging with me, i feel so lost and hurt.
You're human. I'm human. The world is lost and confused. I dont pretend that I have all the answers. Smarter people than I have devoted their lives to understanding the Bible and why God allows suffering and lost their faith or still continue in their faith despite all their questions.
I actually went to church this morning after having stayed out of church for over a decade. I just bawled my eyes out for the same reasons you listed above. I'm scared for my children and my siblings and their children. I'm scared for you and for your family.
Jesus is the rock I am choosing to cling to in a world where other humans also have free will and use that to do unspeakable evil to others. I can't function without hope in a savior and a just and loving God who wants to draw us back to a relationship with him.
Thats just me. But if you ever need anything, reach out. The early church went through the same things we are going to go through. Our Rome is falling. We will make it. God has blessed us with hope and a community to lean on when things get bad. Be there for others. True followers of Christ will be there for you. Thats my mission anyway.
Peace be with you brother.