I've reserved my judgement on Pence until after the 20th. Trump has been known to counter punch people out of existance. There are a few things that have bothered me. One of them was Trump's tweet from the 4th which said Congress would certify fraudulent votes. He knew what they were going to do.
If he knew, he must have a plan to counter. Just my 30 pence.
I also gamed out the possibilities. If Pence did do something, then would they not have called in a few bribes and gotten the Legislators to certify a Biden result, which as plenary would then become constitutional?
I actually don't know how much of the court cases and actions were done on purpose to avoid allowing them to legitimately seize control.
That still sits with me as well. There was a lot of disinformation going around as to how the President would seize victory. I see all of these people squawking about insurrection act, Pence, send the guard in to count the votes, kick it back to the legislators, but I am almost certain all of that was distraction.
If trump is a master strategist, then why would it be inconceivable that he and Pence are working together to set the trap? If Pence had returned the slate of electors to the states, it would have delayed everything. If this was a trap, then Pence could well have played the villain to sell the corruption.
Not saying that's what happened, but if it did, he will be remembered as the guy who destroyed his reputation to save a republic. It would also then make sense that Lindell, Powell, and the rest of the patriot gang are claiming Trump is being railroaded and isolated by his inner circle. It may all be a disinfo campaign to sell weakness.
It's a stretch, but until Biden is sworn in, I choose to have hope.
The first thing, is that if Pence sent the slates back, then all it takes is some corrupt legislators to ensure that they then now have a legal reason to certify Biden, as they have plenary power. So he has actually denied them the ability to back of a fraudulent certification.
The Lindell, Powell and gang claiming he's railroaded is so obviously disinfo to me. First off, this started way back at least as far back as the bioterrorism beginnings of 'covid'. Any investigation or work was instigated probably last January or even before then. Operation Warp Speed is probably cover for what is occurring. So appointing a special counsel to handle it, or start the investigation is so completely ludicrous, as it started a long time ago.
The thing is, if I was in Trump's shoes, I think I would quickly and by the book had Pence return the votes especially since the legislators finally saw the evidence and want to change the electors. This will make Trump win legally. Then I would take care of traitors in my 4 years.
What is the purpose of playing this covert game where Pence is acting as a duel agent. Have Congress certify and then bring in the military and look like a dictator? I just hope there is a plan because I can't wrap my head around this. 3 more days pede.
The doomer in me thinks they took away all options Trump had and Biden's pussy ass will be inaugurated.
The realist and spiritual side of me sees a path to the NWO no matter who wins. If Biden wins we are going to go to war with Russia, nukes, ww3 etc. Killing him or not killing him this path is set.
If Trump wins, they hate how he refuses to go to war, but they will do everything in their power to get rid of him and go to war with Russia, nukes, ww3. Killing him, removing him etc. End game it really doesn't matter. They have a path to their goal and will achieve it no matter what. End times scenarios don't just disappear because a few people rose up. If it's meant to be for us to fight evil it will happen.
Trump said something about it will take great courage to do something, but even more courage to do nothing.
To me, doing something means choosing to win in the current system. Doing nothing means girding the loins for the dark road ahead, especially if they plan full military action. Choosing to allow it to occur could mean cementing themselves to action, hence why it may require more courage.
"Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice President Pence has to do is send it back to the states to recertify and we become president and you are the happiest people."
"And I actually, I just spoke to Mike. I said: Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage. And then we’re stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot and we have to live with that for four more years. We’re just not going to let that happen."
Then after Pence rejected it, Trump said Pence didn't have courage.
I tried to analyze this on face value and it just doesn't make sense at all. I tried playing with it to see if he misspoke and it still doesn't make sense. He said Pence didn't have courage and as stated above courage is for someone to do nothing!
Also it says it takes courage to do nothing and when you do nothing you will be stuck with Biden. And we won't let that happen.
Honestly I played with this for days trying to fix the speech to see if it's a misspeaking or it's coded or there is another meaning. All I know is at face value it doesn't make sense, even the theory that Pence is still with Trump.
I just gave up and we will find out wed
The way my mind sees it is that he could do the right thing, and their chances would be up to lesser men. Or he could have great courage, cement it there that they will follow through on extraordinary action.
Pence is a traitor!. Don't forget it was Mike Pence, Rience Priebus, and Paul Ryan that tried to get Trump to step down in 2016. The three of them are personal best friends. Pence is a TRAITOR PERIOD! Stop sticking up for him.
He was tested and failed when it mattered. Currently it is difficult to forget the betrayal, but I'm sure there will be enough time before political amnesia sets in.
debate away, am loving hearing these different points of view. will wait until the 21st to make up my mind about him. but I do know Lindsay Graham is a snake and a traitor.
I've reserved my judgement on Pence until after the 20th. Trump has been known to counter punch people out of existance. There are a few things that have bothered me. One of them was Trump's tweet from the 4th which said Congress would certify fraudulent votes. He knew what they were going to do. If he knew, he must have a plan to counter. Just my 30 pence.
I also gamed out the possibilities. If Pence did do something, then would they not have called in a few bribes and gotten the Legislators to certify a Biden result, which as plenary would then become constitutional?
I actually don't know how much of the court cases and actions were done on purpose to avoid allowing them to legitimately seize control.
Remember at Trumps speech on the 6th, Trump said it would take more courage to not certify the electoral votes? I found that odd.
That still sits with me as well. There was a lot of disinformation going around as to how the President would seize victory. I see all of these people squawking about insurrection act, Pence, send the guard in to count the votes, kick it back to the legislators, but I am almost certain all of that was distraction.
If trump is a master strategist, then why would it be inconceivable that he and Pence are working together to set the trap? If Pence had returned the slate of electors to the states, it would have delayed everything. If this was a trap, then Pence could well have played the villain to sell the corruption.
Not saying that's what happened, but if it did, he will be remembered as the guy who destroyed his reputation to save a republic. It would also then make sense that Lindell, Powell, and the rest of the patriot gang are claiming Trump is being railroaded and isolated by his inner circle. It may all be a disinfo campaign to sell weakness.
It's a stretch, but until Biden is sworn in, I choose to have hope.
The first thing, is that if Pence sent the slates back, then all it takes is some corrupt legislators to ensure that they then now have a legal reason to certify Biden, as they have plenary power. So he has actually denied them the ability to back of a fraudulent certification.
The Lindell, Powell and gang claiming he's railroaded is so obviously disinfo to me. First off, this started way back at least as far back as the bioterrorism beginnings of 'covid'. Any investigation or work was instigated probably last January or even before then. Operation Warp Speed is probably cover for what is occurring. So appointing a special counsel to handle it, or start the investigation is so completely ludicrous, as it started a long time ago.
The thing is, if I was in Trump's shoes, I think I would quickly and by the book had Pence return the votes especially since the legislators finally saw the evidence and want to change the electors. This will make Trump win legally. Then I would take care of traitors in my 4 years. What is the purpose of playing this covert game where Pence is acting as a duel agent. Have Congress certify and then bring in the military and look like a dictator? I just hope there is a plan because I can't wrap my head around this. 3 more days pede.
The doomer in me thinks they took away all options Trump had and Biden's pussy ass will be inaugurated.
The realist and spiritual side of me sees a path to the NWO no matter who wins. If Biden wins we are going to go to war with Russia, nukes, ww3 etc. Killing him or not killing him this path is set.
If Trump wins, they hate how he refuses to go to war, but they will do everything in their power to get rid of him and go to war with Russia, nukes, ww3. Killing him, removing him etc. End game it really doesn't matter. They have a path to their goal and will achieve it no matter what. End times scenarios don't just disappear because a few people rose up. If it's meant to be for us to fight evil it will happen.
Trump said something about it will take great courage to do something, but even more courage to do nothing.
To me, doing something means choosing to win in the current system. Doing nothing means girding the loins for the dark road ahead, especially if they plan full military action. Choosing to allow it to occur could mean cementing themselves to action, hence why it may require more courage.
Let's look at it.
Then after Pence rejected it, Trump said Pence didn't have courage.
I tried to analyze this on face value and it just doesn't make sense at all. I tried playing with it to see if he misspoke and it still doesn't make sense. He said Pence didn't have courage and as stated above courage is for someone to do nothing!
Also it says it takes courage to do nothing and when you do nothing you will be stuck with Biden. And we won't let that happen.
Honestly I played with this for days trying to fix the speech to see if it's a misspeaking or it's coded or there is another meaning. All I know is at face value it doesn't make sense, even the theory that Pence is still with Trump. I just gave up and we will find out wed
He didn't have courage, he had great courage.
The way my mind sees it is that he could do the right thing, and their chances would be up to lesser men. Or he could have great courage, cement it there that they will follow through on extraordinary action.
If he continues down the path of treason, he is worse than a coward.
Congratulating Commula? Honestly? You don’t congratulate a cheater.
And he's into 13, 14, and 15-year-old boys. That's why he's never alone with women.
Pence is a traitor!. Don't forget it was Mike Pence, Rience Priebus, and Paul Ryan that tried to get Trump to step down in 2016. The three of them are personal best friends. Pence is a TRAITOR PERIOD! Stop sticking up for him.
Not just a coward. A TRAITOR to the United States.
"Coward" doesn't really describe him. The Deep State protects itself at every turn. "Sleeper Cell", maybe.
Correction, I think he's a cuck faggot neocon
Pence=Snape
Pence is part of the cloak and dagger
I think he's a disloyal traitor. He's Brutus.
I fucking HATE these "upvote this" posts. Fucking hate them with a passion. But I upvoted anyways because I hate Pence more.
He was tested and failed when it mattered. Currently it is difficult to forget the betrayal, but I'm sure there will be enough time before political amnesia sets in.
Pence either sealed their treasonous fate or he is a traitor to our nation. Time will tell. However, he got into something with that coin.
debate away, am loving hearing these different points of view. will wait until the 21st to make up my mind about him. but I do know Lindsay Graham is a snake and a traitor.
DOnt count him out yet. He could be a hero.
I'm still not sure. Maybe he did what needed to be done to roll up all of the traitors at once. I'll wait until the dust settles.
HEY OP SHUT THE FUCK UP AND POST SOMETHING SUBSTANTIAL YA FUCKIN DUMMY
Then you also support making a coward your next-in-line for a succession plan. When you dis Pence you dis Trump
I think he sold us out but this novel has been constant twists of the tale. Maybe he is going to turn out to be a good guy.