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OldBlue451 22 points ago +24 / -2

I've reserved my judgement on Pence until after the 20th. Trump has been known to counter punch people out of existance. There are a few things that have bothered me. One of them was Trump's tweet from the 4th which said Congress would certify fraudulent votes. He knew what they were going to do. If he knew, he must have a plan to counter. Just my 30 pence.

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LiberatedDeathStar 1 point ago +2 / -1

I also gamed out the possibilities. If Pence did do something, then would they not have called in a few bribes and gotten the Legislators to certify a Biden result, which as plenary would then become constitutional?

I actually don't know how much of the court cases and actions were done on purpose to avoid allowing them to legitimately seize control.

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Sandman 8 points ago +8 / -0

Remember at Trumps speech on the 6th, Trump said it would take more courage to not certify the electoral votes? I found that odd.

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LiberatedDeathStar 3 points ago +4 / -1

That still sits with me as well. There was a lot of disinformation going around as to how the President would seize victory. I see all of these people squawking about insurrection act, Pence, send the guard in to count the votes, kick it back to the legislators, but I am almost certain all of that was distraction.