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JaneMN 59 points ago +60 / -1

Did any of them even know they were sick or was this another case of " I had no idea I was nearly dead.."

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CantStumpTheTrump20 28 points ago +28 / -0

Exactly. I don’t think any of the numbers should count unless they were hospitalized or died.

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deleted 19 points ago +19 / -0
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Symonize 10 points ago +10 / -0

I think they updated that to 6% are mostly Covid-19 related, only 5% was directly covid. 141,763 of the 322,441 died with the flu as of 1/13/2021. (Table 3)

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm?fbclid=IwAR2-muRM3tB3uBdbTrmKwH1NdaBx6PpZo2kxotNwkUXlnbZXCwSRP2OmqsI

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HockeyMom4Trump 2 points ago +2 / -0

This!!!!

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Sugz_Da_Bear 46 points ago +46 / -0

Covid is in the fish!! We must bleach the ocean!!! FOR GRANDMAAAA!!!!

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MooseKnukl3 19 points ago +19 / -0

Bleach would turn all the black fish into Michael Jackson and that's RACIIIIIST!

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Gwoz8881 10 points ago +10 / -0

Wait, are you not an ally to the transracial community?

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VoidWanderer 26 points ago +26 / -0

Well when the tests are just checking for any coronavirus, not "covid-19", it's going to lead to a massive amount of false positives. Which is exactly what they wanted. It's also why all the "symptoms" that get you turned away from places like the dentist are all things that are from any cold and flu.

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Ifififokiedoke 13 points ago +13 / -0

This is such bullshit too. I work on boats like these out of Dutch Harbor and we have to test negative twice before we are allowed to fly into Dutch due to their city ordinance and the state of Alaska. I'm scared of getting a cold just so I can go back to work.

A few vessels had this happen to them this year, after a two week lockdown in a hotel in seattle, a true lockdown, video cameras, security, meals brought to your door, crew would go straight to the boat and steam to Dutch (8-9 days) then the entire boat would test positive once they hit Dutch and they would just say fuck it and go fishing anyways.

One boat tested positive a little after thanksgiving and they forced them to stop fishing and made the crew quarantine in the boat for 2 weeks so I dont know if things have changed.

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dakin116 21 points ago +21 / -0

I know a guy who has brain cancer but received no treatment back in the spring, it’s in his lungs now because...that’s how cancer works if not treated. But the sniffles is more important I guess. Just a 42 year old about to die, no big deal.

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bantar 14 points ago +14 / -0

There are 1000's of these types of cases. People are too scared to go to the doctor, so they stay home. Their Cancers are left undetected, their heart disease problems, etc. People don't just know that they have cancer, this is detected by doctors. Same with other diseases, such as heart, etc.

So, the Governors have issued blind death warrants to many of their citizens with their scare tactics. IMO, they have killed or will kill 1000x the number that have been "saved' by not catching Covid. But, their virtue signaling beam was shining bright.

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coolhandcuke 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is really minor in comparison, but I had to argue with the receptionist to get an in person visit because I "sounded" like I had a cold. I have health issues I need to get into see actual people occasionally otherwise I could get really sick. That's why until recently, getting checkups regularly was considered a responsible thing.

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Assault-Covfefe 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's bullshit. These people work in medicine. It's literally their job to see sick people and here they are scared about people with a fucking cold. I'm sorry, but if you don't like that...find another line of work.

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that_sound 11 points ago +11 / -0

True, false negatives are an issue, but a small issue (relatively). False negatives are an issue in all biological tests, but because false negatives are rare, it's a small issue. It's the false positive rate that is the (much) larger issue in the case of the China Flu. And specifically, which test?

The antigen tests have their own false positive rates. It is what it is, I forget the numbers but not as big an issue as PCR.

The Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) tests have a very high false positive rate even if the samples are processed correctly. And they are in widespread use. PCR amplifies the amount of genetic material in a sample by copying it over and over. It's used when a sample doesn't have enough genetic material to perform a test. Copy the genetic material of the sample, then copy the copies, then copy those copies, over and over many times. In the industry, it's generally considered good practice to stop at around 25 cycles of copying, and that's assuming rigorous laboratory protocols. That's a "cycle threshold" of 25. Going beyond that to say 30 cycles is considered risky, as any imperfect copies early on also get copied and amplified and you start seeing more noise than signal. The PCR tests for Covid19 done in the US are frequently pushed out to 35 or even 40 cycles. Noise. Did the original sample have an amount of virus that is infectious? Did the sample contain any virus, or just virus particles? Any virus at all? If you've seen reports of some labs having 90% false positive rates, this is why. Also, because of the urgency of the epidemic, some of the labs are not as well run as others. PCR tests with high cycle thresholds give false positives. It was so blatant even the fake news reported it.

Biological tests are never perfect, but in early spring 2020, as infection rates in various states went up, death rates followed. Infection rates went down, death rates followed. In the fall, infection rates took off in some states, but death rates in many cases did not track. See for yourself here:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

Did you notice over the summer when The Narrative changed from "deaths" to "infections"? Remember The Narrative was saying Florida and Texas were so incredibly dangerous? See for yourself, order the data by "deaths per population", click on the top of that column. Where is Texas on that list? Florida? Florida, more than any other state, is a giant retirement home and Covid19 kills almost only old people. Florida deaths/population is below the national average. Why is that?

The infection rates of the country or the states are based on the tests. The Covid19 PCR tests have a very high false positive rate. The infection rates are false. They are fake.

I'm not saying that there is no virus. I'm not saying that some people aren't sick. I'm not saying that some people aren't dying. I'm saying that the numbers are fake.

So in mid-November, after the election, the CDC noticed coming Florida regulations and so now wants cycle thresholds disclosed. In early December 2020, Florida required disclosure of the cycle threshold of PCR tests. Now that you know this, what do you think will happen when the cycle thresholds go back down? Less false positives means lower infection rates. Will actual infection rates (actual infected people) go down? Assuming Joe takes office, he will institute some policy like mandatory masks, and The Narrative will be that Joe's policy is what lowered infection rates. Almost no one will change their actual behavior, but The Narrative is The Narrative.

And the normies will believe it.

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bfranklin 7 points ago +7 / -0

Amazing how all of this is happening just after the electoral college certification.

Biden and Fauci have a plan to fix the high rate of false positives in tests: https://www.dcclothesline.com/2021/01/11/biden-and-fauci-will-save-america-from-covid-19-as-fda-prepares-to-fix-pcr-tests-eliminating-millions-of-false-positive-cases-by-end-of-2021/

And the media is slowing down the panic too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/12/health/coronavirus-immunity-future.html

It was all a lie. To keep us locked up so they could cheat the election with vote by mail fraud. They stole a year of our lives.

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silflay 4 points ago +4 / -0

I can point these "coincidences" out to people until I'm blue in the face, but to them that's all they are. Coincidence. Even though I've been shouting that this is a lie since March.

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HaitchElGee 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's an ego thing. If they acknowledge it, they have to accept they were fooled by a lie, and their self-esteem rests on them being 'smarter' than 'conspiracy theorists'.

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gearhed 4 points ago +4 / -0

Well, they didn't watch TV until they go back so....

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MAGA_____bitches 4 points ago +4 / -0

WHY WERE THESE TERRORISTS NOT WEARING MASKS?

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Knowbody 4 points ago +4 / -0

I really don't give a fuck about covid-19 any more. Stop the hysteria. It's about as bad as influenza, and we didn't shut down our economy for that.

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Mohawkian 4 points ago +4 / -0

I red pill normies by sending the NY Times article on the high number (80%+!!!) false positives when the PCR test uses a Cycle Threshold of 40..I won't link to the Slimes so here's Redstate's recap:

https://redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/09/03/ny-times-up-to-90-whove-tested-covid-positive-wrongly-diagnosed-truth-a-whole-lot-worse-pt-2-n253328

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Republic_or_Nothing 3 points ago +3 / -0

If you caught a cold you would probably test positive. Sad reality is covid is in the same family as the common cold.

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muslimporn 3 points ago +3 / -0

It might not just be bad tests. I've been pointing out to a lot of people that the virus most likely goes dormant a lot of the time until the right season. A lot of people potentially have it but it's not active.

In the UK the streets are deserted but cases are supposed to be through the roof. It's as though the more they lockdown the more it spreads.

This is something I have warned might happen if the virus lays dormant. They are however running more tests than ever too though.

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Johnfox13 2 points ago +2 / -0

The test beforehand doesn’t matter, the fact that they tested afterwards does matter though, 5-7 days it would take for incubation and yet it was positive?

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borscht-nazi 1 point ago +1 / -0

>Reality: bad tests

No, the reality is that there is no fucking "COVID-19".

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kek_saved_the_world [S] 1 point ago +5 / -4

Testing negative doesn't 100% guarantee that you don't have the virus and this with every type of test currently available. Also, they could have been infected after they took the test and before embarking on the ship.

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800080 10 points ago +10 / -0

... they could have been infected after they took the test and before embarking on the ship

No one on board was reported sick during the time at sea. If they did have it, it was the asymptomatic harmless form, which isn't covered as much by the MSM as the scary parts.

Or maybe the tests and flu are, how do you say it in English, . . . oh yea. Bullshit.

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MAGAMAN4EVA 4 points ago +4 / -0

I mean it really doesn't matter either way its all a bunch of bull shit. Either the test are that bad or you can have COVID ripping around your crew for a month and not one damn person notices.

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mulejuicemcquaid 3 points ago +3 / -0

Surely the virus would have burnt through a small, close proximity population like that after 35 days?

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DroolingElmo 0 points ago +1 / -1

Elon Musk has taken 4 tests, two from each nostril, on the same day multiple times and never gotten a good result.

So maybe their left side was sick but their right side was ok?

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MagaHippie88 1 point ago +1 / -0

Number of nasty Fuckin crackhead bums testing POS..... crickets..... <3 MAGA2021

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Unboosted 1 point ago +1 / -0

Covid is a symtom of fighting off any sickness whatsoever. If you get a cold, the flu, a stomach bug then your going to test positive for covid. Covid is essentially your immune system being active for at least a short amount of time even if you didnt know you were fighting something off. Covid is to politicize white blood cells just like climate change is to politicize clouds.

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SyNiKaLiTy 1 point ago +1 / -0

is there a direct link to the article?

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Acid_squirrel 1 point ago +1 / -0

Its airborne 100 miles out to sea!..... My god

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2224522 1 point ago +1 / -0

2.5+ million at DJTump presidential rally on jan6 very few wore muzzles.

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koalakingdom 1 point ago +1 / -0

Link to article??

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Space_Force 1 point ago +1 / -0

It's all working according to the plan. bUt MuH rIsInG cAsEs!

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Formerlurker92 1 point ago +1 / -0

Orrrrrrr. The test was contaminated

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BananaWizard -2 points ago +1 / -3

Actually there's probably nothing strange here. You can test negative day one and these ships usually have like 20 people. By day 14 someone will have symptoms and then spread it to maybe 3 more people on average. Then 3-12 more by the time they land. By the time they get on shore people test positive.