Epik, the webhost for TheDonald.Win, caves to fake liberal bullshit and threatens to shut us down WITHIN DAYS. It took two months to transition the USA into a third world country.
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posted ago by MAGAholic2
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This isn't true.
If this is true, mods need to address it
We'll need to decentralize similar to what happened with the pirate bay. They're only going to ramp up their censorship. The nice thing is we'll end up with new and far superior technology.
How would we go about this as a long term solution? Could as many of us as possible set up our own servers like Bitcoin?
Yes and no. I've been thinking about this for a while... we need to have decentralized servers where the users can run it, but it has to be done in a way where a user doesn't host a complete file and all the data needs to be encrypted so that it's impossible for that user to know or view any of the files. This is to protect the user because as soon as we have this kind of setup it will be inundated with illegal content and the users will need protecting from being accused of hosting CP or whatever.
Unlike Hunter, who needs no protection from not only hosting cp, but engaging in the filming of cp.
if only the GOP wasn't in the pockets of Wall Street they might have passed regulations preventing isps and service providers and big Tech from censoring people that they disagree with..
Instead GOP was complicit..
The Uniparty "is all in this together".
Ok this is already over my head. After the 20th, we need to all get together and have experts in whatever fields they know head up some projects moving forward.
I am going to start scaffolding this out a bit more at some point.
Yeah my landscaping company is available to mow the fuck out of communism if needed
Once you've mowed the all commies down, I can stop by and weld your country back together
Hopefully sooner than later.
If you save my comment, come back back me and I will help in any way that I can.
Let me now if you need help Pede, I really like this idea.
u/polk_high_4_td for website pres. every time I see your username it’s always a comment with good ideas and thinking about the future. You da man!
Thanks fam! I love you guys the same.
Ill do the plumbing
https://zeronet.io/
SiaCoin does exactly this for traditional storage. Completely functional decentralized, encrypted, piecemeal data storage across participant harddrives. It works, and does so very cost effectively.
Making it (or something similar) work for regular public access would be additional work, but the foundation is there.
That is sort of what is required, but not completely. It needs to be peer to peer, the SiaCoin system still requires a central server to act as the gateway to the distributed storage system.
What really is required is a peer to peer system that keeps itself updated. The way I see it is something like a user going to a site and downloading an SPA type website (they download the entire site) and a certain number of IP addresses that the site is populated with. As far as that user is concerned they should be able to get the most up-to-date data from those servers. Any updates to those servers are populated out to the network for other users, and vice versa for any changes other users make on a different set of servers need eventually populating to the user's servers.
The problem with a system like this is the encryption... I don't quite see how the hosting servers can be kept in the dark regarding the encryption keys... But I'm sure it's solvable.
There is a software called bitmessage which is kind of interesting technology. It is fully decentralized version of e-mail. The way it works is you download the client and then you send an e-mail to a certain bitmessage e-mail address. That message is then encrypted and uploaded to the public blockchain. When you first use the software you download the full blockchain up to a certain date.
A fully decentralized version of an "upvote/downvote" system could be done in the same way.
First - build the software so it allows people to submit top posts. This one would be one blockchain. Then have a second blockchain for comments. Then have a third blockchain for content moderation. Also another for upvotes/downvotes. When you download all the blockchains, it would simply rebuild the website in the software so you could use it. We would also need to strip out images, videos and anything large since this would simply take up too much space. Videos/images could be hosted somewhere else. We would also need to force everything to go through TOR so user IP addresses are not leaked.
A system like this would be impossible to control or shutdown. You would effectively need to break TOR or shut down the internet to do it.
Controlling spam would likely be the biggest issue.
Scuttlebutt over adhoc networks really needs to be a thing. Firechat never had enough users unless it was a festival or something but I’m confident we have enough now. Especially if relay stations could be setup along highways/interstates. Very low power requirements because no internet connectivity required!
You sure about that?
SIA already does that. Why would the hosting server need to know anything about the encryption?
I'm not saying SIA is -THE- solution. It doesn't have the intrinsic framework to deliver data to multiple parties who themselves aren't the party responsible for storing it, but all of the foundational storage needs are literally already up and running.
Last I thought about this, I conclude the only solution is for ISPs to enable multi-cast broadcasting, which is built into udp and other routing protocols, but generally disabled because the server business model depends on home and business users not being able to run major websites from their cheap connection.
It wouldn't really cost the ISPs a whole lot more, just shift the landscape a bit, but it would enable users to meaningfully donate bandwidth.
ISPs made huge investments to enable netflix servers to stream by inserting caching servers around the country (effectively multicasting for netflix only). User demand would need to be at that scale to make ISPs abandon the server-model and enable "free speech" for clients.
I think so, because SiaCoin (at least from my quick read of their website) allow the client to use them as distributed storage server, but that doesn't facilitate running a website because the end users would still need to access that data, and unless the encryption keys are disclosed, the users will still need to route through a central server where the data is decrypted and then passed back to the user.
The reason in a peer to peer system why the hosting servers would need to know the encryption key is so that the user can read the data. Let's take an example of you and me, and this website.
You are the server, and I am the client. I want to access this website so I go to www.thedonald.win and download the skeleton of the website unpopulated of any data. I then also receive your IP address (as you are a user who is also hosting content), along with many other IP's of other users. For me to populate the page I want to look at, with the data you are hosting using peer to peer technology, then somewhere the data needs to be decrypted, either at my end or your end. And that is the problem. It would be easy to have a central server request the data from you, then decrypt it and pass it to me, but that's no longer P2P.
But for your security, the data needs to be encrypted and you have no access it to it, somehow. Otherwise you'll soon have the feds come knocking at your door with accusing you of hosting illegal content. The only way to mitigate that is for each user to only host a tiny part of the file, and not even a complete part of that tiny part, and then have it encrypted without you possibly knowing the encryption key. That is the technological challenge, and I think without some kind of central server it might not be possible.
siacoin is too slow for web
See this? This is the conversation being had
No shit, not the point
Decentralized file servers like peer networks for Torrent, PirateBay, eMule, etc.
Decentralized video sharing servers like BitChute, WebTorrent, D-Tube, Theta, Verasity, Dlive, LivePeer, etc.
Decentralized chat servers like IRC, Matrix, Telegram, Signal, Rocket.chat, ninChat, AstraChat, Mattermost, Slack, Contus Fly, Link Space, Mastodon, Chatwee, Grove, etc.
Encrypt emails with Protonmail (Switzerland), Mailfence (Belgium), Kolab Now (Switzerland), etc.
VPN all web connections
We are at war!
Ok bit of a brain dump here...
Switzerland is under treaty with the US. Protonmail will protect you from prying eyes up to a point. It will not protect you from the US government if they go knocking.
https://protonmail.com/law-enforcement
VPN providers collect a lot more info than they let on. They do not want to be shut down. It’s bad for business.
VPN providers see all your traffic and if server with a legal warrant will turn over your data.
Oh and I’ve seen TOR bandied about a bit Anyone operating an exit node can see all your traffic. Law enforcement has used this fact to their advantage in the past.
You want a blockchain based system.
Period.
That said, if you are connected to the internet three really is nothing 100% secure. The only way to be secure is to not connect.
Also if you own a cellphone you may as well just put a sign in your front yard and list all your activities.
Same if you use WiFi. In public OR in your home.
At the end of the day most people walk around with a tracking device in their pocket everyday. So the government has no need to “chip” anyone. They’ve done it to themselves already.
Oh and, not that you mentioned it but, that schematic that’s been circulating that’s supposed to be of the 5G tracking chip in the COVID vaccine - is the circuit diagram for a BOSS Heavy Metal guitar effects pedal. 😂
At the end of the day the only way to communicate and be moderately sure no one is eaves dropping to do it in person in a “secure” location.
Just make sure there are no windows. Any technically minded 15 year old kid with an Internet connection can hear what you are saying if they wanted to.
This is just one of many devices that are easily built: https://hackaday.com/2010/09/25/laser-mic-makes-eavesdropping-remarkably-simple/
I’ve been into tech since the 70. There really is no place safe or secure in a technological world. :-/
And don’t even get me started on how easy most locks are to pick. 🙄
Also talk of “War” is one if the reasons they want to shut this place down.
Just sayn’
Nailed it. It's staggering how many still don't understand the capabilities of the NSA. There should be hardly any unsolved crimes with the level of tracking they are capable of. The fact so much goes unresolved makes the corruption that much easier to see.
The NSA isn't magic, they can't beat good encryption. If you and someone have shared keys in person, there is no way they can decrypt messages between you and that person.
You don't need 100% secure systems for an effective resistance, part of Save America movement, which should be deployed from many fronts, not just militarily, against the domestic enemy that just stole the election. For example, you don't need all the filesharing videographic evidences of the election stealing or BLM/Antifa terrorist riots to be foolproof from being shutdown to leak the truth and expose the lies of the fake news media. For opsec of military operations, you certainly need close to 100% security as much as possible. Simple messengers work for war time communication, indeed. Just ask the Vietnamese Commies. Blockchain communication should work, too, as there were already tools available.
The traitors want to shut the place down because they fear an armed uprising by patriots. If stealing the Presidential election is not a declaration of war on the electorates, I don't know what is.
If you have a .onion site, then there is no exit node. If tdw goes to tor, and the users access via tor, exit nodes are not a problem.
This does mean you can't be lazy and use a clearweb-tor proxy, but nobody should ever use a clearweb-tor proxy, so....
So what you’re saying is an EMP is needed? Focused EMP?
all of those decentralized video sharing servers you listed, are not decentralized. lol. Bitchute for example is completely centralized.
Source?
Source?
Here you go: https://bit.ly/2XT5vVH
You could actually source all this info yourself if you look up what 'decentralized internet' is. Unless you're connecting to an app and there's a exchange of data between peers it's centralized. If you;re going to a website like bitchute, relying upon ONE source to deliver you content, inputting user data into one central system - it's centralized.
I think this is how Jim Robinson at free republic runs his site. We kick in money every month to operate the servers
Ask gab
epik is the DNS Registrar for both TheDonald.win and Gab.com
If Epik cucks they'll end up being the last and best honey pot for the commies.
(Epik's CEO Rob Monster promoted free speech for years and got all the alt-right sites to get registered by Epik).
Why can't we or someone just buy epik.
Our based billionaires don't seem to be taking the left's stranglehold on speech seriously which seems very odd given that it's glaringly obvious and a fundamental problem in our society. Tech exists to solve the problem (IPFS, etc.) so eventually we'll organize ourselves to take advantage of it, but in the meantime our movement isn't living up to its potential given we're handicapped.
We have like 2 billionaires..
DJT could not within safe legal parameters buy or do anything like this right now as a sitting President. He needs to wait until he's a private citizen. Just sayin.
I am guessing their are currently being threatened by financial services to get cut off from the financial system.
Buying a company won't help if you literally can't pay anyone or get paid by anyone.
It's not good enough to try to address free speech through internet infrastructure, it also needs to involve a payments system, and that means someone needs to start a bank that won't cuck.
How can you cuck with a name like Rob Monster
Ask Rob Zombie.
Epic is gab I thought? I was mistaken thanks for clarification
Gab runs their own servers, their own everything. If you're a premium user (small monthly charge) you can host a group on gab. Might be a good emergency rendezvous place for us.
I would subscribe and pay to keep .dot win available.
Yes. 100%
Me too!!!
Same
Thedonald.win has a presence on Gab.
They still rely on telecom companies for connectivity. I’ve worked in that industry before. They can easily cut service to any place they consider is a home to “agitators”.
We need to be our own telecom. Maybe Starlink?
Kinda like cbs, cnn getting cut out tonight?
No, epik and Gab are their own things.
There are web 3.0 protocols under development which can be used for decentralized sites in the future, tho a forum like this written in python/php and a traditional database in the back simply won't run on those protocols, the site would need to be rebuilt from scratch in a different programming language.
What language?
I code in C#, Java(I hate it), and Python.
Stack largely irrelevant (it would not be Java, smirk). The architecture is very relevant.
Depends on what approach we use, we could make our own blockchain, then there would be some C and C++ mostly. Or we use an already existing blockchain as back-end. Then only the front end has to be rewritten, i.e html, java script and css.
There used to be a simple site reading messages from the bitcoin blockchain, can't find it now but the principle was relatively simple. Because anything can be posted to a blockchain as long as the sender pays and it qualifies as a transaction, there where literally text messages and even memes embedded in there, all stored on chain.
Anyway, above example would be the hybrid approach, where all the data is stored on nodes, we the users host, and it's all encrypted so no matter how much spam the trolls post it could never be proven in court. Then the front-end would reside on traditional servers, possibly with Cloudflare in front.
That way the site cannot be charged for any of the content because it's not stored on the site, the site only reads and write to a blockchain which is certainly not illegal, and I would like to se a muppet leftist lawyer trying to argue for that.
To be fair, we all know the law is "fluid" for the deep state. They make shit up as they have need for it. I am not confident that there is any foolproof way for legal protection against a blockchain against the adversary we're up against.
Let's hope things never get to this point though.
True, but at least a blockchain will be really hard to get rid of, especially since based people outside of the US will help keep it online as well.
i think its doable. Im just know sure how its done im not very techy but, i do know that you can put a ton of pc's together and have a server.
Me either. Hopefully someone with knowledge can write up a brief tutorial on how we can do this (if it's even a good solution).
Look into nginx + python and possibly php, I think that's how this site runs. Now spin up multiple VPS instances from various providers and install these packages. Setup syncthing as well (peer to peer synchronization of files). Now you have a horizontally scaled site, they can nuke a few nodes but not all at the same time. I'll be like a very complex game of whack a mole. Where servers just keep plopping up, already configured and launched in seconds.
Get database servers from a different host, completely disconnected from the others and make sure data is encrypted, they'll never find out because all they see is a fully legit back-end application. And lefties will never know either, hence they don't know who to cry too.
VPS is Godsend
Proxy them just like web servers
Still are vulnerable at the registrar. Unless you can find a registrar that truly doesn’t give a fuck, you are in the same boat you are in right. Hosting is easy, it’s a simple matter to throw more resources at the problem. If you can’t find someone to propagate your domain info it doesn’t matter.
Genius.. I love it. B)
Look into VMware, VSphere and ESXi
All you need is one pc and you’ve got a server. “Tons of pc’s together” is a cluster and you need clusters for redundancy, scalability and to support the workload as your user base increases.
Folks use AWS because they offer elasticity some you don’t have to worry about adding more physical servers to your clusters every time you run out if capacity/become processor/memory/storage constrained. With heavy traffic bandwidth becomes an issue.
This is why so many companies run on public clouds.
Mastodon
The pirate bay runs on Bahnhof in Sweden, on servers leased by the pirate party. Might be a good place for thedonald.win as well. You can even lease a private cloud there. https://www.bahnhof.net/vdc
Sweden likely has hate crime laws or some shit that would be used to get the site taken down. The Pirate Bay guys were ideologically left (back when the left opposed censorship) which has helped their project survive. What about Russia hosting (or hosting in some country that's not aligned with the West)? If there's a DNS/hosting company in some country that is owned by someone too rich to easily bribe and that doesn't care about lib histrionics then theoretically we could be left alone.
Yea a law exist but it's literally only one guy using it and 99.999% of all his work is just ransom. He obviously can't take everyone to court and the prisons are full anyway. So a potential scenario:
Worst case scenario, Åberg sends a ransom for $500 to the individual he thinks posted the "hate speech", just don't pay it.
But yea, Eastern Europe is probably better if you find the bureaucracy annoying, Russia has it's issues. Poland or Romania are based tho and has great bandwidth.
regarding Russia - keep in mind that they had at least two military exercises where they were practicing cutting their internet off from the rest of the world. Russia also has laws that enforce storing Russian data on servers within the country.
Lastly, consider optics. Being hosted in Russia is like saying "hey democrats, you were right all along".
Bingo, it might do more harm than good sadly.
There is always Tor and Onion network, but that just means isolation.
I always smile when people say things such as "Poland is based". You should read Snowden's book. He specifically stayed away from Poland because it is a country that will bend over to the US faster than you can blink. That's because Polish establishment still thinks the US is their only option to avoid being swallowed by Russia, which is a song of the 80s, but that's exactly where these people are mentally - in the 80s. They are still fighting the communist regime that's been gone for over 30 years.
Only Assange is good. Snowden traitor. I believed he was good until I did more research about a month ago. So that makes sense why he’d bash Poland.
well, I've read his book and watched a few talks/podcasts featuring him and I don't see why he would be branded a traitor. He seems like a perfect example of a whistleblower to me. But maybe I am wrong? Let me know what changed your mind.
He is right regarding Poland though. Take a look at what happened in the early 2000s regarding secret CIA camps in Poland, where they kept prisoners from the Middle East. Poland got nothing in return, except for a hit on our reputation when it became public.
Fair enough, I don't know much about Poland to be honest. Thanks for the info.
No issues. Being Polish I am happy to share what I know. Poland's recent push for freedom of speech is mostly motivated by the fact that the currently ruling majority is conservative from lifestyle point of view and authoritarian/socialistic from the governance/economic point of view. That makes them a prime target for the European mainstream, which is very similar to American Democratic Party - more leftist, less racist. So the Polish Government is really acting in its self interest.
Don't forget about Hungary. They just created Hundub, a FB-like service that supposedly is sorta right-wing.
Most of Eastern Europe sees upgrades in modern internet infrastructure now, it's only a question of time before alternative hosts start to plop up like mushrooms over there, providing free speech to the west.
Thanks for the insight! What are the issues with Russia hosting?
You have to keep a record of all history in Russia. Which isn't that big of a deal for this site.
Horrible latency, hard to find a reliable provider, hard to find reliable infrastructure. Imagine if Lada built a data center, that's Russian "quality" in a nutshell. Legally there shouldn't be any issues tho, but you might have to bribe some people to get what you want.
Ah, I get it. Thanks!
Your IP traffic can still be blocked coming into the country from wherever else as it has to travel across the trans Atlantic cable.
There are a number of main routing/switching hubs across the US internet backbone. They could block traffic as it enters the country. And, again, telcos.
This is actually how the NSA tapped in and duplicated some the traffic to snoop on people.
Distrubuted encryted solutions might be preferable then.
Thought crime*
Stop using their marxist lingo
We need 'Murican servers...just saying...
All these complex solutions will keep us from reaching normies. We just need a new host. I'm sure there are offshore companies that don't give a shit what American liberals say.
Top 10 Polish web hosts: https://www.whtop.com/top.10-alexa-ranking/country-pl#:~:text=Shared%20Hosting%20Poland%20%20%20%20Plan%20Name,1%20%2F%200%20%206%20more%20rows%20
Or, my personal favorite, top 10 Russian web hosts: https://www.whtop.com/top.10-alexa-ranking/country-ru
The Pirate Bay succeeded because it was able to hop around on domains making it easy for normies while also having a decentralised server that the Commies had to play whack a mole with. The problem is as their iron grip tightens, we'll need both new domains and new server infrastructure, so we aren't brought down every time they take down a server.
Host offshore. They won't be able to do fuck unless ISPs outright block the site.
Sure they will. They won't pretend to allow free speech after China Joe gets in. Not to mention they will control both chambers of Congress, so they will make those who engage in "hate speech" and all who enable them equivalent to terrorists.
The difference is that what we're doing isn't illegal. They were fighting the government, we are fighting activists petitioning private companies not to work with us.
It will be if China Joe is installed. They would have both chambers of Congress and the Presidency. The filibuster is a self imposed rule they will ignore. They will absolutely put "Hate speech" on the same level as terrorism and go after us no different than President Trump went after ISIS. And that's before they instate legislation that allows them to take everything from us for speaking against The Party. We are fighting the government by not wanting to submit to Communism. The truth is treason in the empire of lies.
The supreme court has already ruled on hate speech
Lmfao! To be so naive, again. <3 To get you up to speed, the Supreme Court ruled the Constitution is literal toilet paper when they said States have no standing in elections because it means we're no longer a Republic and the words written on it aren't enforceable. We're completely lawless now. Not only that, they will ignore old limp wristed paper pushers, have wetworks down at the vineyards and stuff so many Communist Justices in they'll never need to worry about pretending to follow the law again.
This, absolutely. I have seen beautiful, elegant solutions designed by the wisest Unix beards for things like social media, which utterly fail because they’re impossible for normies to use. Like, this site could use I2P or Tor hidden services, but nobody would go through all that just to connect and shitpost from a phone.
Bingo.
This site cannot really be decentralized because it is updated by users constantly and there are decentralized platforms available but none are good for wide spread use as they require you to download install and know how to use special software.
Yeah, Pirate Bay is hella resilient and because of making that decision, they have stuck around, unlike a lot of their fellow torrent sites.
Address it by starting to look for alternative hosting.
This is the same shit that happened at reddit. It was never about cracking down on threats of violence. If it was, they wouldn't be trying so hard to post said threats themselves and frame us for it.
We can't placate them playing by their rules. Especially when they keep making up new rules as they go along just to screw with us, especially while they openly hold complete double standards and violate their own rules with impunity.
We need to be able to tell them to just fuck off, and ignore their demands.
We need companies that DEFEND FREE SPEECH.
Tech companies all ran by faggot Left.
Edit: I emailed the head of Epik and rest assured these articles are bullshit. They are pro-Liberty and didn't say any such things. Please email them to just say thank you so they know they have our support. They get more emails from cancel culture agents than anything I am sure and a nice email probably helps keep them sane.
Not outside of the US, Europe has plenty of based hosts.
This, we need back ups in other countries. Maybe the pirate bays host?
Aren't they vulnerable to interference by the EU?
Not all countries in Europe are members of EU, and not all member countries implement any shit EU tells them to implement. It's depends on country.
What about the Asian countries?
Good point.
Lol the europoors hate free speech way more than the US
Leftism is a global disease.
The only people corporations are beholden to are their stock holders.
The only reason they exist is to turn a profit,
They are private. They are not regulated by the first amendment. That only protects you from the government.
Why not: “give us a court order and we will take down that info”. BTW Poland is adopting a law that will fine every provider that took down a legal, that is not against Polish law post by $2,000,000. That’s a way it should be!
There has been two stickied posts in the last 5 days about 1) denouncing violence and 2) advertising our backup websites. They are still stickied.
This is why they posted those and have been stickied this long
So that's what happened to Sunday Gunday. A tradition of TheDonald from the beginning now gone because of Communist threats.
Damn, that's a shame.
I honestly just thought people forgot about Sunday Gunday with everything else going on.
Yeah I think that’s it. People were complaining about the lack of relevant content. I’m not seeing any in New today so it’s most likely a voluntary thing as well.
Sunday gunday is gone now?
Sorry, I should've been clearer: The stickies are no more. I'm still seeing Sunday Gunday posts if I search for them.
There was even a post that explicitly said they had been given warnings about keeping a lid on postings about violence and revolution by their host. So this isn't new exactly, just another angle to what we already knew.
Democrats: polish interference!
It's not true, it's Epik caving to leftist pressure to deplatform anything not behind the socialists. It's so completely obvious, you don't see Facebook and Twitter being shut down for coordinating violence at the Capital and around the country, do you?No, yet it's proven it happened. You don't see Amazon being punished for selling "kill republicans" shirts do you? No.
This isn't about so-called white supremacy at TD, it's about suppressing political opposition.
A lot of these tech oligarchs have literally been funding literal terrorists groups for a long time. How many billion of dollars did the Black Lies Matter terrorist group make off of big corporate and big tech oligarchs last year?
Dude it's not about preventing violence. It is about control and controlling the narrative. It is the same excuse the Google pedophiles scan your emails for "child porn". They dont actually care about stopping child porn, they just care about control.
That is basically the reason for everything communists do. Control and total submission, or else.
We know this, but our knowing this will not stop anyone.
That SCOTUS has failed us is fairly dire, as that is the route we should take.
The 1st Amendment is suppose to POTECT us!
Saying that the LEFT is DEMONIC is the plain Truth! Should I fear saying so?!?!
Good point
Howabout we get our own web hosting servers etc??
Let's not rely on Epik
There's always another step for tyrants. They'll use law enforcement to seize independent servers.
We would have to be breaking the law. Something we don't do. They are pressuring Epik, not because we break the law, but because we are disrupting the narrative.
I've heard this one before.
They had to have evidence Carter Page was acting illegally on behalf of a foreign power to get a FISA. They didn't have said evidence, and the FISA was obtained anyways.
Democrats have to have evidence of high crimes misdemeanors, treason or bribery to impeach Trump. They didn't have that evidence, and they impeached him anyways (twice).
Do I need to go on?
Sure, but if the government comes after us, it's illegal and we have recourse. We have no recourse relying on epik.
What're these "law"s you speak of?
as if breaking the law is a prerequisite for law enforcement to seize anything
Well someone has to register the domain "thedonald.win" (and that has to be on this list) and someone has to provide internet connection to the servers that host Win... I mean you could just buy IP transit from Hurricane Electric or similar, but they can just cut you if they feel like it and you'd be fucked
I dunno what it will take, but the other option is we're all gone black
We can become a domain name registrar. I have looked it up and it only costs about $70,000 for certification
As a black man, I've been here 24/7 for 3 months straight since Reddit sent me packing. I have yet to see white supremacy. I have yet to see "extremism." What I have seen is memes and harsh language. I have seen zero correlation that results from "glorification" as jokes to real world violence or real world activism. I have yet to see one helicopter meme come true in the USA.
I think the (tenuous) connection the media is trying to make is found in that phrase "inspirational place". It's a guilt by association push. I remember a joke from the Simpsons back in the day showing a Fox News helicopter with the slogan on the side, "Not racist, but #1 with racists!". 99.9% of the people here are patriotic, God-fearing, family-centered, peace-loving, exceptionally inclusive and diverse modern day beatniks (traditional conservatism being the new counter-culture). That other 0.1% are losers who are reported and kicked out. Sure, people are upset about the election, and everyone and their dog should be calling for genuine election reform, but ultimately this site is just having a good time at the expense of political correctness and obvious, pearl clutching political theater. You can have fun and demand justice. No one here advocates for actual violence. That is crazy talk.
It reminds me of the crusade against violence in video games in the early nineties. Most kids will not be inspired to do anything wrong, but if even one kid does, the whole thing needs to be outlawed!!!! Won't somebody think of the children?!?!
using their logic, democrats are all ISIS communists that want mass genocide
We need to start calling leftists the new church ladies. It's what they are and they'll fucking hate it.
That episode also had the media companies unleash a deadly virus on the American public to drive up ratings. Sound familiar?
None of us here care about skin color, we care about character. Im positive the most interesting thing about you isn't your skin color. Dems are obsessed with race.
Exactly. We are all the same green skin color here right Pede?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRZ-IxZ46ng
I do. But only as a preference. You get great people of all races, but diversity to a great extent will make everyone distrust each other long term. Small amounts of diversity are probably fine.
As a brown feller, I can absolutely confirm this. Not only is the entire "white supremacist" angle FALSE, but it's getting so old. If there were even a hint of anything like that on this site, guess what.. I WOULDN'T FUCKING BE HERE.
As I said in above post, white supremacy can be best encapsulated in the phrase "it's ok to be white." Literally accepting the continued existence of white people is what they considered white supremacy.
As a black man, if you are ok with your fellow white patriots being allowed to exist, that means that you, too, are also a white supremacist. I'm not even joking.
Those who wish to replace all white people with non-white people through illegal (or even legal) immigration consider any (such as republicans of any color) who would oppose that as inherently white supremacist.
It is okay to be the skin color you were born. You cannot change that.
Anything they call white supremacy is white supremacy. That’s been the world for 4 years now.
Didn't the Epik CEO send out a letter saying he was for free speech especially at a time like this?
Yes. He caved to globalist/commie/liberal pressure within days.
To be fair, he may not have realized he was on camera when filling his belly with walnut sauce and succulent hot dogs.
Or maybe he just got a message with a picture of someone he cares for and a vaguely worded threat.
Not everyone serves the swamp willingly, we need to consider that possibility occasionally.
This.
Not to excuse them in the least, but this is what happened to many that "betrayed" Trump. They didn't go into the job with the intention of doing so, but didn't have the balls to hold out like the President has (and will).
Maybe he didn't cave. Maybe he just accepted some of that sweet sweet globalist cash - which would make TDW's hosting fees pale in comparison.
no need for name-calling, faggot
There's no such thing as a band freeway to access the internet.. until the right winger is realized that the free market is a lie and you shouldn't be working to deregulate corporations as much as possible you're never going to succeed.. the solution is to make it illegal for corporations to do these kinds of things.. but when you're part of a party that's been decades working in the interest of corporations it's very hard to come to terms with the fact that they shouldn't be allowed to "do whatever they want""
He probably got death threats, lets be real
Death threats do that to you
Well, his company is in the Lion's den, Washington state. Antifa have sabotaged and derailed multiple trains right in that area. They're active and violent. I don't doubt he's been getting legit threats that haven't been publicized.
That's how they fucking win.
If there's enough fake posts calling for violence (from you know who) and Epik cuts hosting for TDW, that's a big deal. Where else do we gather to communicate?
antifa is essentially the KKK, how did we beat the KKK?
We made gathering in protests with masks illegal....
The KKK was largely beat through a combination of government action and lawsuits.
IT still exists, but it's just a drinking club that likes to use bad words now. At one time it was pretty powerful. IT also has a decentralized structure (there is no one kkk, there are like, a thousand with 2 guys each. Each with a slightly different name so if one is sued to shit the others survive.)
We can except to see the exact same tactics coming. Infiltration, communication tapping, arrests, lawsuits. Those glowie boys you see? The guys who trained them brought down the KKK. Then they went after antigovernmental extremists like Militias. And now anyone who points out the election was rigged counts as a 'antigovernment' extremist.
Add in pressure from big business. Ugly times ahead.
Yep. Look up PATCON. This is softcore PATCON.
We didn't, they just rebranded.
As communists
Which one?
First one was disbanded on its own back in 1872 by its leader Nathan Bedford Forrest. This was in response to 2 years of specific acts of congress suspending habeas corpus for suspected kkk and the insurrection act being declared, followed by the organization being seen by itself as having largely achieved its goals(driving republicans out of southern legislatures).
Second clan (1915-23 with remnants into the 40s) largely fell apart after its leader was convicted of rape.
Third clan (1950-on) was largely broken in the 80s during the war on drugs(they used drug sales for funding), but remnants remain.
I love coming here for the history lessons
so what you're saying is: attack the head and the body will die?
We're going to need more memes
You tell me
For online, see my comment above. For offline, anywhere you can walk, drive, or fly (until they put your name on no-fly list if you are fly).
We are attached to Epik? And that's where Parler is going? Here we go again. Also, white supremacist? Really? I have not seen anything like that posted here.
I've never seen a white supremacist in my life. That hasn't stopped them from calling us that since 2016. Brainwashing and conditioning.
There's this guy named Joe Biden...
Oh yeah, the guy who warned us about creating racial jungles you mean?
Poor people are just as smart as white people!
I remember as a kid their being "skin heads" in Portland. They were like anarchist punk type guys, not exactly flag waving law and order citizens who just wanted to preserve the nuclear family and grow their 401ks lol.
I really hate the white supremicist trope.
They kinda have to be..
this times a million. the only people i have ever known that said they where white supremacist have been retards. apparently there are millions and millions of these retards all over america that we never ever see
Believing it's ok for white people to exist is considered White Supremacy. That's not a joke, it's a clarification so that people understand what they are talking about. In social justice, the idea of ending whiteness is a sacred thing, which does entail ending white people. To push back against that, such as suggesting it's ok to be white, or that white people should be allowed to exist, falls under the banner of what they consider White Supremacy. While they do acknowledge that thinking white people are superior also falls under that term, it's usually not what they are talking about.
Ironically, one of their sacred cows is, effectively (though they don't openly acknowledge it) is that white people are inherently superior and being non-white is a form of disability. As such, it's effectively impossible to have equality as long as white supremacy aka white superiority is allowed to exist. By destroying white people, it will be more equal as the other races (who are disabled) won't have to compete with superior white people.
If that sounds racist as all fuck, it's because it is. They just hand wave it away with all sorts of evasive nonsense.
It's a crazy and hypocritical ideology that engages in mental gymnastics. One of the big reasons we are so divided is we cannot even agree on basic things like terminology.
"I hate white people; they should all die" = not hate speech, nor racism
"I'm white, and that's ok" = hate speech, racism and inciting violence
This is literally how they are being taught to think, and we can't really be united. An ideology that declared being divided is their greatest virtue and goal can never really achieve unity, even internally with each other.
They shouldn't try that shit in Eastern Europe. Ppl can do something really bad to them. It's only in America white people are tolerant to non-whites.
If you aren't an avid and open white inferiorist then you are a racist bigot.
Epik seems to be the only host/registrar in the entire world that doesn't instantly knuckle under the first time Oliver Darcy sends them one email with the word racist in it.
We seem to be very lax extremists...
we're waiting... TO THE EXTREME
"Hold the Line" is far too extreme for these communists.
Yes. "Submit" is the only right answer.
u/doggos u/ivaginaryfriend u/shadowman3001
Can you address this?
They already did in a sticky a while ago, and they have taken action by removing all posts between mid-December and January 6 when the bulk of "in Minecraft" content was posted. And compared to how the forum was at that time, there's much, much less of it now.
So they bowed to Epik who bowed to SJWs. Fuck
None of the Minecraft stuff even happened so what was the point?
Not getting shut down.
What do 75 million Americans do once they are silenced?
This is why I theorize that the vaccine might provide protection against something else...something bigger.
Despite what Trump has said, many supporters are skeptical and do not plan to get it. On the flip side, almost every liberal I know is chomping at the bit to get it.
When Covid 2.0 is released into the world, those who took the vaccine will be protected, while the majority of those who are right of center will be eliminated.
I’ve theorized along the same lines... Then again, it may work out to be the exact opposite: when the next bio-weapon is released, it interacts with the “vaccine” to cause certain death (or infertility, or whatever)
At this point, I couldn’t even begin to guess which theory is more likely to be true.
This scenario has already been posted. Some woman reportedly with a background in microbiology or something said that the cytokine storm seen with covid will more likely be triggered after taking the mRNA vaccines. This is due to the difference in the way the signature of the virus is exposed to the immune system and hour it subsequently responds. IIRC those vaccines weren't derived from the actual live virus. The cytokine storm is usually what kills so many otherwise healthy people without co-morbidities.
That is nutz. A country’s greatest asset is is population.
If they did that they would kill the country’s economy.
It goes against the countries best interests.
Not plausible.
They import a new population. They already are.
Obviously this theoretical bioweapon would kill them too. If your goal is to kill half the population, it doesn't matter which half. At that point, the government owns you anyway.
Aren't we kind of killing ourselves? I've been in debates with idiots on this forum who want to spew racist and antisemitic crap because of muh freedom of speech and they essentially say they'd rather destroy TD.WIN than be told what they can say. That's great, give leftists just enough ammo to put us in front of the firing squad
leftists will get ammo anyways, dont censor to appease them
Exactly what I mean, so when TD.WIN is gone it's not because people were being rational it will be because we were principled and can enjoy that in our new isolation with no means to communicate or organize but at least we were "right" Looks like we may learn the hard way
Its not wrong to want people to wisely censor themselves. It is wrong every time to censor them when they refuse to. You are only ever one controversial truth away from being on the wrong side of a speech ban.
<click clack>
Grab the soap boxes and megaphones.
Wait, so this hosting provider CEO gets to decide what "our role" is?? I thought our role was shitposting the left into oblivion and sharing news that the fake news wants to ignore?
I didn't know we were supposed to be iNsPiRiNg PeOpLe.
It may appear to be a joke to you, but in the world that we live in today, inspiring others to raise their standard goes a long way.
u/doggos and other mods need to consider suspending the rules, especially on doxxing, due to the Armageddon-like threats made by leftists.
THIS IS WAR! No time to pussy out!
If you actually make any suggestions they’ll downvote you and beat you with a stick. Even though there should be a dedicated .win to coming up with nothing but anti-censorship ideas. We don’t have that.
There is a Q trust the plan and do absolutely nothing .win. And strangely nobody ever talks about taking that one down due to white supremacy. Especially not the people that are supposed to get put on military tribunals for said plan. Hmmm, I wonder why.
Trump Army Battle Hymn
Trump has smiled upon us this day
The fate of his presidency in our hands
And blessed be us pawns
We who fight with all our bravery
'Til only our king stands
We see the distant flames
They bellow in the night
We fight in Trump's name
For what he says is right
And when we all get shot
And cannot carry on
Though we die, Donald Trump lives on
We may get stabbed in the head
With a dagger or a sword
We may be burned to death
Or skinned alive or worse
But when they torture us
We will not feel the need to run
For, though we die, Donald Trump lives on
They may cut our dicks in half
And serve them to a pig
And though it hurts, we'll laugh
And we'll dance a dickless jig
But that's the way it goes
In civil war you get shat upon
Though we die, Donald Trump lives on
No, no doxxing.
Why do these cucks believe the fucking MSM and their lying propaganda? Why doesn't someone from Epik come in here and see what is actually going on? Stupid fucks.
This always bothers me. Nobody even bothers tp check for themselves.
They don’t, it’s just the statements they’re being given to read. They’re likely being threatened with endless litigation, endless smearing by the media, banks and financial processing institutions pulling their accounts, etc. It’s basically you can do as you’re told, or we’ll destroy both your company and ruin you financially.
One of the Parler people explained that they come after every company that you do business with to be online including captcha companies!
They are too comfortable. Too rich. Too involved with their perversions.
The majority of the men who signed our Declaration of Independence had more hardship than anything for the rest of their lives.
America is what happens when men choose to do what's right instead of what is comfortable.
China is what happens when men choose to do what is comfortable instead of what is right.
the media probably forwarded to Epik examples of crazy shit that got posted by their own media employees , before the moderators deported the posts.
Did Robert Davis or Rob Monster bother to look at the upvote count on the offending posts?
My guess is no.
They don't believe the MSM, they are with the MSM.
"white supremacy" = a black man discussing ways to improve his community.
They've made their threats. We've seen this happen before. No matter what, they will find an excuse to shut this site down. Thank God for backups.
And family values.
Hard work
Church
"White supremacy" = anyone who doesnt agree with the left
If we are censored to the point where we are only allowed to post pre-approved social justice talking points, or the site comes down... I'm not sure if the site could even retain any value.
I mean, what's the point?
ELI5: Why can’t we get our own servers and just connect to the Internet ourselves?
We can. Go buy us many many servers and start putting together a data center with N+1 redundancy. You did order those circuits months ago, right? When you’re done we can start configuring routers and switches. Oh yeah...and we need the SAN and software installed before bed time.
And don’t forget to run fiber across the whole country so when the ISPs decide to get involved, there’s a way to actually connect to end users.
I don't care about your smart ass tech details; here's my question:
WHAT COST?
Millions and months.
Sooo... a rack at a tier1 like Equinix might run $2K-3K/month with dual 40A/208VAC power feeds. Maybe go 3 phase / 60 amp each side. Then you would prob need to buy some IPv4 space and get an ASN. You would want two routers that are compact that could handle internet at good speeds, 40 gigabit+. Then source connectivity, not sure what kind of traffic TDW gets but if 10 gigabit is enough then it shouldn't be too difficult to buy bandwidth ($1K a month maybe? plus $600/month for the cross connect (hopefully one time fee but not sure.) Maybe a load balancer or two (A10/F5/etc) then you need however many servers and the software stack, flash storage and network switches. Probably 10 gig all the way down and high powered servers. It really depends on the traffic load, and you need to keep the address space and stuff private allowing cloudflare to continue to do the front end. Some auxilary equipment for remote management/VPN and the like would be desired as well.
So it could run maybe $4K/month recurring outside of the hardware stack. Hardware stack depends on the traffic they get and how efficient the software is. Maybe $40K to $100K. Plus lag time getting it all, supply chain issues now.
Since cloudflare front ends the site, I'm not sure how the hosting provider for TDW is even known.
All of that is overkill. You don't need a full rack, 10G links, nor high powered servers. Most of the content on this site is mostly static, so easily cachable, and even the dynamic portion is slow because they're using SQL. Switch that over to a NoSQL store with indices in a graph database and you could serve the site with a single instance in the worst case (at it's current traffic level). After the initial server cost (maybe a thousand a piece for decent used stuff) you could get away with monthly costs less than $1000, which would include several colos.
Tens of Millions, minimum, for a high traffic site
i got a RPi.. does that help?
Depends. Is it a 3 or a 4?
Damn. I said ELI5. I don't know hardware.
SANs are so yesterday. Hyperconverged is the way to go man.
Great. Go work with the guy above to bring us hyperconvergence. And we want more convergence than the Dems. Huge convergence. And don’t forget you’re the FNG. Do thrice as much as you speak.
You don’t need DNS. You can totally put up a server and not have DNS. DNS is just so normal folks don’t have to deal with IPs.
thedonald.win is much easier to recall than
104.26.9.222 172.67.73.6 104.26.8.222 2606:4700:20::681a:9de 2606:4700:20::681a:8de 2606:4700:20::ac43:4906
Cant we just the sites IP address to connect directly to it then?
Time for a freedom based DNS system to supersede the original one.
And that's without considering ipv6...
Well sure, but it should be used as a backup.
Anyway, I just tested it and direct IP connections aren’t allowed. Unless I did something wrong.
Often the server requires the domain in the request URL because of aliases. If the various .win communities are all hosted by the same server (likely), it doesn’t even know which site you’ve requested, if you’ve simply punched the IP into the address bar.
I can probably remember 1 one of them. Maybe write it down with a pen on paper.
This is the most tech-rich thread I've seen here.
Updoot for mentioning pen and paper.
You are ahead of the curve.
~Signed, Real Technician
Tech tip: 6G will be dumping all the radio shit and connecting things with wires again.
Yes. AKA "The Dark Web"
Yup.
We go thru cloudflare, cloudflare connects to their servers. The way cloudflare works they probably couldn't handle us hitting an IP address since they use name based host lookup.
I thought we had backup domain names. Or are they all handled through EPIK too?
IIRC one of them is through Epik, one is through Godaddy, the other through Porkbun, and Namecheap or something like that (might have conflated the old ones in there)
So then in theory, we should be fine on one of the backups?
Godaddy is probably cucked, don't know about the others; they could just conspire together to cut all our domains off at the same time
We should use Tor (or something like that) and a hidden service...
I think it's time that that was at least set up and ready to go.
Commenters here have been asking for one for a really really long time, but it doesn't seem like there is one...
Yeah, why not?
https://www.wikihow.com/Start-a-Web-Hosting-Company
The internet is a series of tubes. In all seriousness, the internet is a bunch of layers of protocols, each being controlled by big entities due to the nature of systems of scale. They're being targeted by the leftist mob.
Possibly they threatened him. Possibly they bribed him. Our enemies have limitless amounts of cash to throw around.
Probably threats.
I’ll host in Canada 🇨🇦 or give you back up servers in case you go down. DM me to connect, just need your specs/requirements and we can shake’n bake.
Has anyone reached out yet????
Not yet. Please connect me if you can, happy to share my details via dm.
The Left has silenced conservatives all over and TDW is one of the last holdouts and coming for us now.
Could set up a BitTorrent-like thing, with each post a torrent...
Bingo, this is partially how bitchute does it with their videos, torrents and magnet links hosted elsewhere, then the site runs web torrent to view the content with ease in the browser.
They will go the way of Russia.
While in the United States anonymity can be achieved with some precautions, In Russia internet tracks you. Every internet access requires to registration with a passport.
Speaking of which. maga.ru probably wouldn't have its domain name taken away.
Your point?
That should be one of our backup domain names.
Relying on Russia never worked for any nation, ever.
Russia is not a freedom-loving country. They would find a way to infiltrate, then control and manipulate anything where they can have control.
There is a reason why Russia is not a destination for liberty-minded people if you have missed the memo.
Unpopular opinion:
Put all handshake accounts on thread-start moderation. Have a random trio of mods approve/ deny. That will address most of the issues, I think.
Obviously more mods will be needed. I don’t think that’s an issue based on the number of volunteers from the last call for moderators.
Gab/Epik has a lot of money, and even they are suffering from massive slowdowns. So, picking up and moving seems enormously ineffective, at least initially. You would literally have to create you own data server. This isn’t a simple “plug it in with another ISP” problem. If Gab/Epik are giving warnings, something should be done. Frankly, I think Gab/epik should step up and offer solutions.
One other thing to consider- the Gab/Epik site can likely be shut down in a moment’s notice when the fake president is installed. That would be the end of a lot of sites, including this one.
If you want to have specific discussions of violence, this isn’t (and never was) the place to do it.
Ps - Frankly, Gab isn’t perfect either when it comes to “extremist” discussions. Andrew should know not to cast stones in his own glass house.
Remember all the hoops we went through on reddit? Remember how much it literally didn't matter? How they banned the dom for some unspecified violation months after people had completely stopped posting?
You cannot negotiate with these people. We can jump through their hoops and do their stupid games, but ultimately it probably won't matter.
Look, if Biden takes office, “Hate Speech” will become a hot topic, and probably a law. By the time we get into “but my 1st amendment rights” in the courts, it will be too late.
I honestly don’t know the correct answer for this problem, I’m just offering the best solution I see. I DO know what the leftists have planned for us, and all this talk won’t amount to a hill of beans when they start passing “hate crime” bills.
Andrew Torbin runs Gab
Rob Monster runs Epik.
Epik provides DNS registrar services to Gab, that's about it on their relationship.
Thank you for that correction. I apologize to anyone that was confused. (Not sarcastic)
So basically reddit.
No, more bureaucracy is not the solution.
We went through this at a place I used to be, they QUADRUPLED THEIR COST & STAFF.
When the finance guys came down and saw that they had more bureaucracy than customers, they killed it off, unfortunately the damage was done, we lost too many customers and it changed the demographic. They ultimately had to change their marketing strategy and keep on a large number of the bureaucrats.
I understand your point, but there’s only two realistic options:
Neither are desirable.
Mods here would rather this site burn than turn into reddit.
I have yet to see the moderators miss anything, anything illegal is taken down quickly.
Its one of those situations like we had at reddit. They make rules that are impossible to abide by, and the violations will be taken into consideration on a subjective basis by people who don't want us to have a voice. It creates a no win situation which is exactly how they want it.
What about hooking up with Gab? They are adding tons of servers
On epik
That's a shame, I thought they had their own servers?
So if we are all herded onto Epik, there is a single point of attack for the fascists.
According to the welcome post from the creator of Gab, they are on their own servers. They're in the process of creating their own everything. Video (gab TV), messaging program, pay services, etc.
I see you understand the strategy of the commies now
Why is it so impossible to self-host? Why does everyone need someone's permission to be on the internet?!
The globalists want it to be that way, because with centralization they can easier censor people they don't like.
So if your DNS host bans you, you're fucked? There's no way to decentralize dns as well?
Takes about two days to switch DNS host, but then you're facing the same risks of getting silenced again. And you still depend on the domain registry and the top level domain.
Alternative solutions are available but browsers typically don't support them. TOR use it's own DNS system for instance called .onion, it works in the TOR browser only, and Brave has support for it to.
There's also decentralized domains being developed, Namecoin, .crypto or .bit domains. Those requires a plugin in your browser to work, but it does work, and it's fully decentralized.
I think the Tor .onion option is best. There is also OnionShare to share files to each other.
It's complicated. Basically, research the root servers, compare them to the ones OpenDNS uses and that should get you started down the road to answering your question.
Like a lot of things, it's possible if a bunch of likeminded people cooperated consistently.
Because of centralization unfortunately, sure we could setup a DNS server relatively simple, in fact why not two and have full control over a domain name, say thedonald.win. But if a leftie controls the server hosting .win we're fucked anyway because they can just refuse to point thedonald.win to our DNS servers.
ICANN is at the top I think and they've recently opened up for more top level domains to be created and we've already seen all kinds of names plopping up. They are also typically very expensive, thousands of dollars per year to register. But if you do have a top level domain, like .win, .com .uk etc DNS censorship suddenly becomes much harder. Especially the more sites are using it.
fun to see people waking up
Because you need to have somewhere to connect to. You could buy bandwidth from networks such as this list or this list, but then you are at the whim of getting cut off if they feel like it.
You can have your own warehouse of servers, but you need to connect them somewhere.
Ahhhh Crap
Stop fucking hosting within US morons! Can't you see this already? When it's McCarthyism style witch hunt based on US political lines, you are nowhere safe within the CONUS. The world is full of hosting. Host outside US!
Seriously, I feel like Hungary, or Poland might be safe places to host.
You could also go with one of those tiny island nations that will let you do whatever you want if you pay them enough.
how many languages do you speak?
Four. How many do you?
So about those user requests for suspension of new member account creation for awhile???
Or at least prevent them from making new posts with handshake accounts...would solve 99% of the issues with minimal disruption... I feel like the mods are letting this site down at a really important time, its disappointing.
How are we glorify violence? Notice they say these things without any support. Nancy and Harris and the rest of them glorify violence. We're not even peaceful protesting this week.
Feels like reddit all over again. Just register in Russia. Thedonald.Ru Fuck em
You know what incites violence?
Stealing an election to impose global communism.
I just transferred my domains to Epik because they gave off based vibes. Guess I’ll be transferring somewhere else. Wtf?!?!
Well that's just fcking great
Cucks get cucked again.
Where the fuck is any of that happening on here??
It isn't, but that doesn't matter.
Since they control all the media and tech companies they can just repeat a lie over and over again until it becomes "fact". They know 99.999% of people will never actually come look for themselves.
Hell, just look at when TD was on reddit.
All their demands to ban it were based on lies, easily disprovable lies.
Didn't matter.
Every town has a Center, we will still find a way to reach one another.
My thoughts exactly. Free Speech Saturdays
This is literally clown world. If they went after pedophiles as hard as they went after logical thinking children wouldn’t be abused.
Epik's statement from last week said (in a soft and sneaky way) that they do believe in censorship. They said they believe in working with offenders and "countering extremism with love" to see if they can put them on a better "path". Also see their formal statement here - epik.com/blog/fightinghate
Business as usual.
Fuck the Wall Street Journal
As long as we adhere to the same standards as Gab, there should be no problem. https://news.gab.com/2021/01/13/gabs-response-to-the-adl-and-cnn/
Glorifying white supremacy? Bitch where.
Any good alternatives to epik?
Try in Europe, many countries won't give a fuck about US laws and the latency isn't horrible these days.
Poland, Czech Republic, or similar.
wow. the level of dishonesty by these CEO's is bizarre to watch.
I deport every shill I see.
Same but how long do they linger for?
True. Eventually they get bored I suspect. I’m guessing admins are working overtime.
See revised post that this is NOT TRUE, right here
Darth Vader. Vader means father in the Dutch language.
Epik. Pik means cock, dick, penis in the Dutch language.
Fyi
Go on offense. May Epik would be interested to know their home page openly incites white supremacy. Look at their racist photo and their blatant colonialist calls to “claim” her “domain.”
https://www.epik.com/
Only Gab is doing it right by owning their servers. How come millions of Americans can't get it together and buy servers for conservative web-sites?
Well we could gofundme to do that, but that wouldn't be allowed. We've become too reliant on tech instead of using it as a tool. What number website are we in the world? It wouldn't take a huge percentage of us to donate to purchase servers/pay a pede to set it up. Question is, who can set up the fiscal transactions?
P.O. box and checks / money order.
Crypto wallets.
Maybe they should get the same servers as 4chan
Aren't Epik the same folks Parler ended up getting for their servers? Looks to be a poor choice if so.
Time for an Onion address/Tor (or alternative) setup...
Epik better reconsider because we can make life very difficult for them
Most of their customers are right leaning; we'll FOX them.
Just a heads up, it took a lot longer than 2 months, it's just that you and most other people were unwilling to listen while people have been sounding the alarm for decades.