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LibertyPrimeWasRight 3 points ago +5 / -2

Iraq was absolutely sold off of 9/11. Just because that didn’t end up being the formal reason doesn’t mean they didn’t channel the national desire to strike back at something into that war.

As for Afghanistan having no value—the actual players don’t matter. All that matters for the contractors who make money off of the conflict is that it exists. Same for the money laundering that happens with the decades of nation-building after we “win” the right to pour money into a shithole. It could have been literally anywhere, all they needed was a big hole in the shape of a war to dump cash in.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

"channel the National desire to strike back at something"

That was Afghanistan, not Iraq. Any supposed connection of Iraq to 911 was bs, trying to sell the public on war.

The original claim re: WMD was Saddam would not hesitate to use it, if he had it. And he had with poison gas. That much was reasonable.

Saddam violated the terms of his cease fire agreement. No further justification was needed.

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PraiseBeToScience 1 point ago +3 / -2

So literally hundreds of people were involved in a plot of mass-murder, not one person leaked, and they were happy to do so so Raytheon could sell new radar systems?

Uh huh.

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LibertyPrimeWasRight 2 points ago +2 / -0

Oh, I'm not trying to take a position on that—I haven't looked into the claims enough—I'm just saying that it was definitely helpful in selling it to the American public, and hypothetically that motive is valid.

I'm objecting to your logic that Afghanistan was worthless and Iraq was irrelevant, not necessarily your conclusion that the Bush admin being involved is unlikely.