Trump is either leaving or he's cleaning house, but at this point I've just prepared myself to expect the worst case scenario. I guess we'll find out in the next 48 hours.
“I would really welcome them to sue me because I have all the evidence against them,” he said. “They sent this letter a couple of weeks ago. They’re lying, they’re nervous because I have all the evidence on them.”
Audit logs, or other peice of evidence found suggests that something was tampered with. But to your point there is always a chance they successfully destroy any evidence and successfully cover up any kind of audit trail.
Well they deleted logs of 2020 election in some places, and nothing happened. Why do you thing things would work differently in this case? Laws only apply to the right, it seems.
Used to do digital forensics in eDiscovery. We would crawl everything for the damn lawyers. Had to leave the field because the hours were insane as were the clients.
Trump team has a Dominion machine in their possession. If Dominion tampers with the code and it doesn't match to what is presented as evidence I think they would be even more screwed.
Problem is, whether it's going to be a fair judge/court...
Yeah like morons.. there's a video of dominion VP trying to sell the system telling the clients that they work with Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T. If there's no internet connectivity then why would they need any of the big 3?
Not necessarily. He would only be allowed discovery into things closely related to their suit against him, and you can bet that Dominion's lawyers would fight about even giving any of that up.
I like Mike quite a bit. He's a true patriot (and makes great products). I hope he gets through this okay; but I have to be honest and say that I don't think this will go in his favor. It makes me dislike the crap Lin Wood has been doing even more now, because not only may it end up ruining the career of Sidney Powell, an amazing lawyers, but it could take out a patriotic businessman now too.
There's a reason a lot of people and places have dropped or made changes to what they've been saying about Dominion, and a reason why trump's legal team stayed away from a lot of it. It's because half the stuff that's been allowed to spread about them isn't true. Dominion let it happen so they could clean up with these lawsuits, and then never have to answer for their real problems.
Hopefully Mike is getting some good lawyers and not relying on Powell/Wood, or no lawyer at all. American Thinker's groveling apology makes me think good lawyers advised them this is going to be a losing case.
Haha. I missed that one. My spell check corrected that one way wrong.
Dominion announced they would chase Sidney for $1.5 billion on defamation something like a month back....haven't seen anything on it since then so
I could have sworn I saw something about a $1.3 billion from them against her filed in DC just a week ago or so. Who really knows though. For me, it feels like an entire year has passed since November 3rd.
Like I said, I really like Mike Lindell, I have since his Whitehouse speech way back last March; so I hope he comes through this.
Personally don't think any successful businessman, or a lawyer for that matter, would put themselves so far out on a limb without having the receipts to back up their words
Think whomever is left at Dominion is trying to force silence with legal threats
Should tell BLM/Antifa in 2022 that any voting machine warehouse is an undefended police ammo stockyard, they'll take care of the machines with their fire vodka
How do I find him on there? Some of the stuff he posts is pretty interesting, even though I don't believe most of it. Then there's batshit crazy stuff that is entertaining.
Yea, but dominion is in a potentially good spot. THEY did not steal the election, they just make shitty product that is easily exploited. DONT fall into this trap. Dominion itself may have not done anything. But that does not mean the product is not intentionally shitty. And that is HARD to prove. intent.
That was one person though, not the company, and didn't actually specify how he "made fucking sure" and I don't think he mentioned anything about colluding with China.
That was obviously their plan. The lady in Mi working with dominion said the co owner told her it's not their job to run the elections (when she pointed out they were running biden ballots repeatedly through the machines) their job was only to keep the machines running. If the D's in Detroit rigged it it was their own problem. Probably set the whole scam up this way.
Right. I guess they figured out a way to exonerate themselves. The lawsuit doesn't refer to the question if there was fraud but to what role Dominion played. They probably can prove that an "unknown third party" tempered with their machines in a way prohibited per contract.
Dominion has a duty under their contract. They undoubtedly violated that duty. Lindell, Powell, Wood, Trump all have the proof Dominion violated their duty...Dominion denies it. Dominion won’t file, and if they do file, will try some mumbo jumbo that won’t work.
This is awfully stupid of them. They (Trumps legal team) would obviously have to prove their allegations are true by submitting their evidence and then dominion would be FUCKED.
Yep. If you found a 4k video of Biden and Harris personally destroying millions of Trump ballots all you would get is 24/7 media and late night shows attacking you, the feds kicking down your door at 2am, and judges sentencing you to hard time.
Good for Mike. Haven't heard much from Sidney after the 1.3 billion lawsuit against her. Should be fun to see her and Lin together no matter what happens.
Anyone who can pay a lawyer can file a lawsuit. Doesn't necessarily go far (looking at you, SCOTUS cowards), but you can sue and get the ball rolling which gets you "discovery"-- the defendant has to turn over all evidence, good and bad.
I don't think this lawsuit is going to turn as well as many people think it will. They are a multi billion dollar company with enough lawyers to litigate this thing for years. And juat because people say that there would be discovery it doesnt mean that dominion all of a sudden has to open their own inner workings to them. From my understanding, a lot of this case would be based on what exactly is known. And I bet you dominion can disprove enough of it to win the case. Example, the whole vote counts going to Germany just seems too out there.
Also it doesn't help that Lin Wood is just crazy at this point and is going to drag Powell down with him. And I really like the MyPillow guy and just wished he didn't go too crazy on dominion stuff.
This election fraud should have been focused on the signature ballots. The easy stuff to prove. But it got side tracked with dominion and Q.
Yea. It just makes things suspicious. Unfortunately we only had like what two months to prove it? With no help from the government. Since when does it have to be the citizenrys job to prove an election was fair.
How did it get distracted by Q when nobody in the MSM or positions of power even acknowledge Q?
Q is a sub culture of a sub culture minority fringe. We have no power to distract anything from these lawyers. Such a lazy scapegoating. You're as bad as MSM at this point.
It distracted us and obfuscated the easy stuff like signature verification.
Thats the easy stuff, that should have been open and shut but then it got bogged down with talking about Venezuela and servers in Germany. We just wanted an audit of votes in suspicious counties. Thats it.
As I said, Q is a subculture of a subculture. A small group. Why hasnt the normie MAGA crowd been fighting for all that? Why havent they made change if it were possible?
Q has had no affect on anything except provide an explanation for what is happening.
What would be the grounds Dominion to sue anyone when a claim is made that a third party did something?! That's like saying, "Somebody took my Ford and ran over somebody", and then getting sued by Ford.
Even weak Republicans are saying things like "Well if there was evidence, we wouldnt be here right now". Yet they are too stupid to realize that every single judge, and even the supreme court REFUSED to consider any evidence.
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Which do you recommend? Are they just really soft or something?
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So why have there been moving trucks at the WH all week?
Theater..It's probably a bunch of pillows to change out the old ones.
Trump is either leaving or he's cleaning house, but at this point I've just prepared myself to expect the worst case scenario. I guess we'll find out in the next 48 hours.
In case antifa burns the place down.
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The Pillow Guy is a sleeper agent. He was.. undercover. lol.
I See what you did there
Oh sheet!
Don't sleep on Mr. Lindell!
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Purely pillow talk
Bahahahaha
He's quoted in the failing NYT today:
“I would really welcome them to sue me because I have all the evidence against them,” he said. “They sent this letter a couple of weeks ago. They’re lying, they’re nervous because I have all the evidence on them.”
"Cash me outside, dominion. How bow dah" - Mike Lindell
Probably has listening devices in the pillows he sold dems. You can say he gave them bed bugs.
In what court case have you ever seen all the evidence prior to the case?
Legal question - if they sue him for defamation, libel or slander, can he and his attorneys get discovery into their systems, machines and software?
Yes, Dominion immediately would open up their systems to scrutiny. Dominion is bluffing, they know they would be fucked by discovery.
Spoliation. BIG no-no. Presumption would be made against Dominion.
Edit: Based Pillow Merchant would send a “notice of litigation” letter. Anything they destroy after that date, presumption in favor of pillow.
Audit logs, or other peice of evidence found suggests that something was tampered with. But to your point there is always a chance they successfully destroy any evidence and successfully cover up any kind of audit trail.
Well they deleted logs of 2020 election in some places, and nothing happened. Why do you thing things would work differently in this case? Laws only apply to the right, it seems.
We’re they allowed to delete? Weren’t ballots supposed to remain for 2 years and they’ve been destroyed?
Well of course, they sit there and say 'looks like being nice to them didnt work in self pity and defeatism'
Damn, I wish you were wrong.
They already have the evidence. Dominion cannot escape reality.
That’s where forensic IT comes in.
Source: shitty lawyer Patriot.
Used to do digital forensics in eDiscovery. We would crawl everything for the damn lawyers. Had to leave the field because the hours were insane as were the clients.
Hey you're great fren don't sell yourself short!
Trump team has a Dominion machine in their possession. If Dominion tampers with the code and it doesn't match to what is presented as evidence I think they would be even more screwed.
Problem is, whether it's going to be a fair judge/court...
If they didn't produce the requested discovery (that they are known to have) they would be presumed guilty.
Is that how it works?
Would throw up red flags
So they’ll do that.
When has that ever mattered?
It matters when you are the plaintiff alleging defamation and you tamper with evidence and bear false testimony. Dominion has no way out.
Plaintiff, defamation, evidence, testimony.
These all sound like words that would be used in a court of law. Since when have the courts upheld justice? Just asking for a friend.
But no courts care about red flags. Except for the red flag of the commies who own them
In law, even when you have proof of something you make the other side produce that evidence. If they hide it you have caught them red handed.
Trey Gowdy did this a lot in congress, he always asked questions that he knew the answers to.
If they hand over machines with no software, that would give them away.
If they hand over machines with recently-installed software, that would give them away.
Legal firms hire experts that can weasel these things out. The crooks always miss something that gives them away.
5hey already have the evidence. Dominion is in denial. No way out.
I'm sure they'd try.
So, they basically admit they committed fraud if they don’t file a suit is what you're saying?
Didn't they already sue Sidney though? They may try to change their machines before discovery.
They haven't sued yet. They sent a letter. To which Lin Wood replied, "File your suit."
They did file that lawsuit: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29090821/us-dominion-inc-v-powell/
Thanks.
They already filed their Sidney Powell lawsuit: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29090821/us-dominion-inc-v-powell/
No reason to think they won't also file this lawsuit.
Yeah like morons.. there's a video of dominion VP trying to sell the system telling the clients that they work with Verizon, Sprint, and AT&T. If there's no internet connectivity then why would they need any of the big 3?
Frankly surprised its still up on FB
https://fb.watch/36Gboj9NEj/
Hes calling their bluff.
Corrupt judge = summary judgment for Dominion
No way out for Dominion.
Not necessarily. He would only be allowed discovery into things closely related to their suit against him, and you can bet that Dominion's lawyers would fight about even giving any of that up.
I like Mike quite a bit. He's a true patriot (and makes great products). I hope he gets through this okay; but I have to be honest and say that I don't think this will go in his favor. It makes me dislike the crap Lin Wood has been doing even more now, because not only may it end up ruining the career of Sidney Powell, an amazing lawyers, but it could take out a patriotic businessman now too.
There's a reason a lot of people and places have dropped or made changes to what they've been saying about Dominion, and a reason why trump's legal team stayed away from a lot of it. It's because half the stuff that's been allowed to spread about them isn't true. Dominion let it happen so they could clean up with these lawsuits, and then never have to answer for their real problems.
Thank you, people here throw around the word "discovery" like it's a secret law that allows you to look into everything on your opponent's side.
Well to be fair.. in family court it kinda is.
Discovery and subpoenas.
But admittedly I know almost nothing about how lawsuits work.
Hopefully Mike is getting some good lawyers and not relying on Powell/Wood, or no lawyer at all. American Thinker's groveling apology makes me think good lawyers advised them this is going to be a losing case.
TIL the definition of "periotic"
Dominion announced they would chase Sidney for $1.5 billion on defamation something like a month back....haven't seen anything on it since then so
Haha. I missed that one. My spell check corrected that one way wrong.
I could have sworn I saw something about a $1.3 billion from them against her filed in DC just a week ago or so. Who really knows though. For me, it feels like an entire year has passed since November 3rd.
Like I said, I really like Mike Lindell, I have since his Whitehouse speech way back last March; so I hope he comes through this.
I really like Mike too
Personally don't think any successful businessman, or a lawyer for that matter, would put themselves so far out on a limb without having the receipts to back up their words
Think whomever is left at Dominion is trying to force silence with legal threats
Should tell BLM/Antifa in 2022 that any voting machine warehouse is an undefended police ammo stockyard, they'll take care of the machines with their fire vodka
If you watch “my cousin vinny” it explains everything
Yeah! That's the point!
Finally a person who says "Brang it"
I believe Powell said the same thing, but not even sure where that lawsuit's at lol
Before the courts: https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/29090821/us-dominion-inc-v-powell/
Lin Wood also said "Brang it"!
Lin Wood is to my hopium as Lennie Small is to rabbits.
You know he's now on telegram?
Thanks, I'll avoid him on there.
How do I find him on there? Some of the stuff he posts is pretty interesting, even though I don't believe most of it. Then there's batshit crazy stuff that is entertaining.
@linwoodspeakstruth
American Thinker retracted all their statements about Dominion and ended their comment section on the site. Nice to see Mike stand up.
Seriously? What the hell?
Not only that but threw their writers under my the bus AND cut off commenting.
Probably got the same letter and folded
Not gonna blame a little blog site for folding lol They're probably barely scraping by already.
Then they should fold shop because their credibility is shot when all is said and done.
Not all defendants are in possession of the same evidence or legally prepared to litigate as others. Dominion has no way out.
Yea, but dominion is in a potentially good spot. THEY did not steal the election, they just make shitty product that is easily exploited. DONT fall into this trap. Dominion itself may have not done anything. But that does not mean the product is not intentionally shitty. And that is HARD to prove. intent.
Be careful pillow bro.
That's what has me worried too. All they'd have to do is prove they had no direct involvement.
ding ding ding. the problem with the right is the assume morality is equivalent to legally. It is not. You be morally right and legally wrong.
It almost a perfect crime:
" i made fucking sure of it " famous last words
That was one person though, not the company, and didn't actually specify how he "made fucking sure" and I don't think he mentioned anything about colluding with China.
Is there a recording of this conversation?
Nope, it's all based on Joe Oltmann saying it happened, with zero receipts.
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe chyna owns 40% of the company.
That was obviously their plan. The lady in Mi working with dominion said the co owner told her it's not their job to run the elections (when she pointed out they were running biden ballots repeatedly through the machines) their job was only to keep the machines running. If the D's in Detroit rigged it it was their own problem. Probably set the whole scam up this way.
Right. I guess they figured out a way to exonerate themselves. The lawsuit doesn't refer to the question if there was fraud but to what role Dominion played. They probably can prove that an "unknown third party" tempered with their machines in a way prohibited per contract.
Dominion has a duty under their contract. They undoubtedly violated that duty. Lindell, Powell, Wood, Trump all have the proof Dominion violated their duty...Dominion denies it. Dominion won’t file, and if they do file, will try some mumbo jumbo that won’t work.
This is awfully stupid of them. They (Trumps legal team) would obviously have to prove their allegations are true by submitting their evidence and then dominion would be FUCKED.
And it’s a civil case, so the standard is only a preponderance of the evidence.
More balls than the american thinker.
Bigly balls.
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If he 100% has evidence, then why the fuck did the VP and the GOP move forward with accepting the fraudulent electors from the battleground states?
Dominion and China being involved would "100%" overthrow the election results, due to foreign influence.
At this point, its clear nothing will matter. We can have a literal video of them actively changing votes and nothing will happen. It's all corrupt.
Yep. If you found a 4k video of Biden and Harris personally destroying millions of Trump ballots all you would get is 24/7 media and late night shows attacking you, the feds kicking down your door at 2am, and judges sentencing you to hard time.
The indian lady election worker in one of the hearings admitted to changing votes because she was told to and still nothing was done.
States certified fraudulent elections, multiple layers of fraud, courts don’t want to intercede, federal certification is largely ministerial.
This is the problem with a corrupt judiciary.
Even if they destroy evidence. Even if we know they are guilty the judge can still fuck Lindell over.
We all know the CIA isn’t about to hand evidence over to him to help.
Maybe he finds a good judge but at least he has the money to make the argument either way, which is a good thing.
Don't forget. As of today. There is NO lawsuit
There's one against Powell though.
Good for Mike. Haven't heard much from Sidney after the 1.3 billion lawsuit against her. Should be fun to see her and Lin together no matter what happens.
Inject the GIZA!!
Dominion only went the lawsuit route for the headlines. They figured they would have Xiden installed in time to quietly drop it. Big mistake.
Oh I think they’ll make due.
GOD BLESS MIKE LINDELL.
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Who is this secret "we" and how does a pillow merchant get a seat at that table?
Anyone who can pay a lawyer can file a lawsuit. Doesn't necessarily go far (looking at you, SCOTUS cowards), but you can sue and get the ball rolling which gets you "discovery"-- the defendant has to turn over all evidence, good and bad.
BRING IT ON DOMINION, BRING IT ON!!
Our biggest patriots have Lin in their name. I may have to change mine.
Meaning of Lin
Lin means “forest”, “sun goddess” or “gemstone” in Chinese and “flax” in French.
Also from google, Lin mean 'pretty' in latin
...and ‘Tru’
This is going to end badly
Why?
I don't think this lawsuit is going to turn as well as many people think it will. They are a multi billion dollar company with enough lawyers to litigate this thing for years. And juat because people say that there would be discovery it doesnt mean that dominion all of a sudden has to open their own inner workings to them. From my understanding, a lot of this case would be based on what exactly is known. And I bet you dominion can disprove enough of it to win the case. Example, the whole vote counts going to Germany just seems too out there.
Also it doesn't help that Lin Wood is just crazy at this point and is going to drag Powell down with him. And I really like the MyPillow guy and just wished he didn't go too crazy on dominion stuff.
This election fraud should have been focused on the signature ballots. The easy stuff to prove. But it got side tracked with dominion and Q.
I agree. However it's ridiculous that there's no code audit on election machines.
Yea. It just makes things suspicious. Unfortunately we only had like what two months to prove it? With no help from the government. Since when does it have to be the citizenrys job to prove an election was fair.
How did it get distracted by Q when nobody in the MSM or positions of power even acknowledge Q?
Q is a sub culture of a sub culture minority fringe. We have no power to distract anything from these lawyers. Such a lazy scapegoating. You're as bad as MSM at this point.
It distracted us and obfuscated the easy stuff like signature verification.
Thats the easy stuff, that should have been open and shut but then it got bogged down with talking about Venezuela and servers in Germany. We just wanted an audit of votes in suspicious counties. Thats it.
What's that got to do with Q and its followers?
As I said, Q is a subculture of a subculture. A small group. Why hasnt the normie MAGA crowd been fighting for all that? Why havent they made change if it were possible?
Q has had no affect on anything except provide an explanation for what is happening.
💯!
What would be the grounds Dominion to sue anyone when a claim is made that a third party did something?! That's like saying, "Somebody took my Ford and ran over somebody", and then getting sued by Ford.
This logic escapes me.
And We the MAGA party will buy tons of pillows and Giza sheets to support the legal fees! Release the Kraken!
Please let this man run for president in 2024.
Fuck it, Lindell/Wood 2024. Let's go balls deep MAGA.
Nobody would leave the White House if they spend the night, the beds will be like Giza Heaven.
Apparently he doesn't realize how corrupt the system is.
Or Dominion thinks they can escape detection a little bit longer.
bought a pillow and some sheets, expensive as gold, but LETS GOOOO
Shit. Everytime he does this, I feel a sudden need to buy 5-10 pillows.
I should buy another pillow
Trump/Lindell 2024
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Streets -> Pillows -> GEOTUS BFF.
Now that's a business plan!
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EPIC.....bring it!!!!!
Dominion is talking shit. They aren't going to take on billionaires who can fuck their shit up with discovery.
That's "Fuck you" Pillow money
And THIS is why I bought a king size pillow. Sic’em Mike!!!!
Hope he doesnt bring the Italy stuff or he will be BTFO with perjury
FROM CRACKHEAD TO BILLIONAIRE!
LETS GOOOO
If they prove this in civil court but not federal. All hell is gunna break loose.
Boss.
The balls on this guy. Honorary ped for life.
Yes, bring it to court, lol. They won't dare.
Damn, When The Pillow Man has bigger balls then the President.
BOLD MOVE COTTON
Even weak Republicans are saying things like "Well if there was evidence, we wouldnt be here right now". Yet they are too stupid to realize that every single judge, and even the supreme court REFUSED to consider any evidence.
I love Maggie.
I have the impression that this fight is now deeply personal for Maggie. Mark my words: if she goes down, it'll be with boots on and swinging fists.