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It's attempting to bully people into being quiet. Just the threat of a lawsuit is enough to get quite a few people to stop doing things. The people that use them like that aren't used to having their bluff called so they just keep using it hoping it eventually works because that's all they know how to do.
That is, if you take some of these people at their word. Both Guilliani and Powell have made grand claims about Dominion. Yet, Dominion presses on.
The point of a defamation suit is that you have to prove malice. In this case, even some simple evidence of vote switching, foreign interference, etc. would end Dominion’s suit (and put the evidence in an actual court of civil law, where it hasn’t been litigated). However, keep in mind if you’re Dominion and you actually did some of these things, a suit is dangerous territory.
If Dominion does ultimately file suit, expect it to be a bloodbath for one side or the other. Either Powell and co. show in court the evidence that they’ve claimed to have, or Dominion steamrolls over them and claims a grand conspiracy to defame them and undermine their business.
When it comes to libel and slander, you need to put forward a strong case as to why the opposing party was making their statements.
For example, let's say I called you a dumb, stupid ass horse fucker. If you were to sue me for slander, which is a form of defamation, you would have to go out of your way to a) prove you AREN'T a horse fucker and b) that I knowingly knew you weren't one and that the purpose of my statement was to defame you, not just to call you a stupid name.
That's the pidgeon-hole for serious defamation cases: the "aggrieved" party is the one that needs to build a solid case: showing how each defamatory statement is false, and that the party doing the defamation knowingly mis-represented or outright lied about certain facts in order to defame and damage the party who is contesting the statements.
Which is why it's not so clear-cut as "if they didn't they'd be admitting guilt." I could sit here and say "President Trump is corrupt." Putting aside public figure caselaw - just because he doesn't sue me doesn't mean he's admitting guilt.
Mix in a couple of crackpot PhD’s with a god complex who suffer from TDS and they will say anything to evade scrutiny...you can’t question us or we’ll sue you! Crackpot.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they intend to sue them jointly - Powell, Guilliani, Wood, and now Lindell. Maybe a few more (Mo Brooks, MGT, etc) if they think it’s worth it.
Not making any comment on the merits of such a case. But I can see how from their point of view a massive, encompassing defamation suit is what they’re aiming for from a PR perspective.
Any discrepancy between the stuff Dominion has and what Mike has will be regarded as evidence tampering/destruction, and it will not be viewed well for Dominion.
Bad news, I think it's hogwash. No evidence of the legal affidavit recorded in italian court case files. The affidavit you do see is not a legal one. It not in legal format, nor is it in Italian.
However Alfio is real and so is Arturo. Sorry Pede, I think Arturo is lying to try and get extradited. But it's a good read none the less.
"Mr. D'Urso is really a Supreme Court lawyer in Italy and also a prof. has been active since 1987 and really does practice law in Catania and teach in Catanzaro. Although he is only an associate professor, not a tenured professor.
Aside from that he doesn't seem to be known nationwide, I had never heard of the guy, I'm searching his past works in case he argued some milestone cases in the last 30 years to see if he is legit or just a hack that is using this to try and get some publicity." Still researching the guy.
Italy is notoriously corrupt. We have to double, triple and quadruple check.
Below is background information, all real breaking stories involving Arturo, the man that is the source of the new affidavit. Again, you'll need to translate.
BREAKING. Dominion introduces their new virtual jury. No longer is there a need to inconvenience busy citizens to participate in jury trials. Their 100% secure and certified accurate computers handle all aspects of jury decisions. And in order to guarantee uptime, all computers are continuously monitored by their 24 hour customer service agents in China.
THIS is what we need! Lawsuits mean EVIDENCE CANNOT BE SIMPLY IGNORED. Will expose everything! DO IT, PILLOW MAN!! WE LOVE AND SUPPORT YOU! HELL, WE'LL FUND YOUR LEGAL FEES!
If they were willing to go to court they already would have, they wouldn't have bothered with cease and desist letters. They're terrified of discovery, which is why they hope that by threatening lawsuits that they can get people to shut up, because they know if it actually goes to court they're fucked. This is the same reason why they have yet to file a lawsuit against anyone that they've sent these cease and desist letters to.
They're bluffing because they really don't want to air their shit out in court. Let alone, have their brand in the public spotlight where the case revolves around the integrity of their product.
Bring those machines in my state. We will beat the shit out of them with aluminum bats. I know about 50 people ready to swing. BRING IT. Looking forward to it. My little box of tea.
Literally a private citizen is being threatened by a corrupt voting machine company for free speech!!! businesses are literally on board FUCCCCKKK U!! Fight dude fight it’s coming for us all
Even with rock solid evidence of fraud the courts cannot be trusted. Lindell has too much faith in the court system. The last 4 years proved it is a broken system. He will get an activist judge.
I don't get that . I get the attitude and I get the courage.
But if the supreme court and all courts of all these states have just proven to be corrupt by IGNORING evidence and proofs of corruption or a crime. Then this lawsuit will be horrible for him. No matter how much evidence and how much proofs and no matter who the lawyers are , they will lose if the judges are corrupt.
The slight difference is that they dismissed the obvious election fraud cases for standing, which means they never looked at the evidence, nor was discovery forced. A lawsuit will require discovery and Dominion can't avoid it if they actually sue because it is about the "accuracy" of their systems.
Dude has balls, now I"m gonna buy 4 more pillows.
Don’t forget the sheets! Excellent!
I'm waiting on my ALL American Dream Sheets, Cotton Produced and packaged in America 🇺🇸
He also sells life sized cardboard cutouts.
I have never had such restful sleep as I do now with a six foot tall life sized cardboard effigy of Mike Lindell watching over me.
I'm not sure if I should be happy for you and get myself one of said cutouts, or question your..... nevermind placing order now.
Just got 2 myself with promo code TRUMP2020!
Also, dude WAS a crackpot [/head].
Now he's a multi-hundred millionaire.
if they had nothing to hide, they would show the world their machines are legit..
WE PAID FOR THEM FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!!!!
Dominion is ran by a bunch of morons. They've sent out threats to a bunch of people and as far as I know they have yet to act on any of them.
It's attempting to bully people into being quiet. Just the threat of a lawsuit is enough to get quite a few people to stop doing things. The people that use them like that aren't used to having their bluff called so they just keep using it hoping it eventually works because that's all they know how to do.
I disagree to some extent.
That is, if you take some of these people at their word. Both Guilliani and Powell have made grand claims about Dominion. Yet, Dominion presses on.
The point of a defamation suit is that you have to prove malice. In this case, even some simple evidence of vote switching, foreign interference, etc. would end Dominion’s suit (and put the evidence in an actual court of civil law, where it hasn’t been litigated). However, keep in mind if you’re Dominion and you actually did some of these things, a suit is dangerous territory.
If Dominion does ultimately file suit, expect it to be a bloodbath for one side or the other. Either Powell and co. show in court the evidence that they’ve claimed to have, or Dominion steamrolls over them and claims a grand conspiracy to defame them and undermine their business.
If dominion wasn't threatening litigation they'd basically be admitting guilt. Threats are trying to save face
Not necessarily.
When it comes to libel and slander, you need to put forward a strong case as to why the opposing party was making their statements.
For example, let's say I called you a dumb, stupid ass horse fucker. If you were to sue me for slander, which is a form of defamation, you would have to go out of your way to a) prove you AREN'T a horse fucker and b) that I knowingly knew you weren't one and that the purpose of my statement was to defame you, not just to call you a stupid name.
That's the pidgeon-hole for serious defamation cases: the "aggrieved" party is the one that needs to build a solid case: showing how each defamatory statement is false, and that the party doing the defamation knowingly mis-represented or outright lied about certain facts in order to defame and damage the party who is contesting the statements.
Which is why it's not so clear-cut as "if they didn't they'd be admitting guilt." I could sit here and say "President Trump is corrupt." Putting aside public figure caselaw - just because he doesn't sue me doesn't mean he's admitting guilt.
Pretty sure they already filed suit against Powell.
Malice for punitive damages, not required for general damages. The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
Mix in a couple of crackpot PhD’s with a god complex who suffer from TDS and they will say anything to evade scrutiny...you can’t question us or we’ll sue you! Crackpot.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they intend to sue them jointly - Powell, Guilliani, Wood, and now Lindell. Maybe a few more (Mo Brooks, MGT, etc) if they think it’s worth it.
Not making any comment on the merits of such a case. But I can see how from their point of view a massive, encompassing defamation suit is what they’re aiming for from a PR perspective.
Let them sue. Liddell has shit loads of money and discovery will be fantastic
I think discovery should be live streamed...maybe on the “Discovery” channel
Mike Lindell a great patriot. He loves America and is fighting for our great country.
He said a big FUCK YOU! That is all.
Oooh, really poor choice of words there, Joe Cool. You just pissed off the based pillow merchant.
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This Joe Cool guy sounds like a fucking idiot. He doesn't grasp the concept that Mike wants them to sue BECAUSE he has evidence?
Can't get any courts to take the case....
Dominion starts lawsuit so courts will take the case....
Case goes to discovery.
You sure showed them, Dominion.
Dominion: Discovery will be a real PITA for ya.
Any discrepancy between the stuff Dominion has and what Mike has will be regarded as evidence tampering/destruction, and it will not be viewed well for Dominion.
If half the people in America didn’t know this was true dominion will have to run back to Venezuela again!
Wasn't it last week they said they're gonna sue Sidney for $1B?
They would never sue because they'd be subject to discovery.
Didn't (some guy) admit in (Italian)court that he himself hacked their shit and swapped votes? eta do not recall name
You mean this shit?
Bad news, I think it's hogwash. No evidence of the legal affidavit recorded in italian court case files. The affidavit you do see is not a legal one. It not in legal format, nor is it in Italian.
However Alfio is real and so is Arturo. Sorry Pede, I think Arturo is lying to try and get extradited. But it's a good read none the less.
US Investigators belong to this group. Their claims are made in the article below: https://nationsinaction.org/2021/01/press-release-voter-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR09QqsGvhP9sqzN3bagBnrwA1ujDycMemU5z0Kc_OVjtIRNbAhaWMGAWHg
Virtually everything below this needs to be translated from Italian if you cannot read Italian.
Proof of the story beginning to break in standard media in Italia. https://www.lunico.eu/conte-finmeccanica-e-lambasciata-usa-dietro-la-frode-per-far-fuori-trump/
Source of the story breaking. Notice who wrote the editorial - the same Journo pointed out by the investigators. All articles copy and paste from this source article. https://lacrunadellago.net/2020/12/29/italiagate-il-governo-conte-accusato-di-essere-responsabile-della-frode-elettorale-contro-trump/
Italian court system. Go to nav button to select italgiure. https://www.cortedicassazione.it/corte-di-cassazione/it/homepage.page
Court system database for searching for dockets, if you wish. This is what you get when you select italguire from the nav menu. You'll need credentials to search the docket. http://www.italgiure.giustizia.it/xway/application/m/isapi/hc-light.dll?lang=it
This is Alfio D'urso, the man who recorded the affidavit as legal council to Arturo. https://www.diges.unicz.it/web/docenti/durso-alfio/#1550571645812-cfcab652-8af9
This is Alfio D'urso's recorded testimony in English, reading the Affidavit to a council (dunno who). https://video.parler.com/Y3/iW/Y3iWk7KPgwNj.mp4
"Mr. D'Urso is really a Supreme Court lawyer in Italy and also a prof. has been active since 1987 and really does practice law in Catania and teach in Catanzaro. Although he is only an associate professor, not a tenured professor.
Aside from that he doesn't seem to be known nationwide, I had never heard of the guy, I'm searching his past works in case he argued some milestone cases in the last 30 years to see if he is legit or just a hack that is using this to try and get some publicity." Still researching the guy.
Italy is notoriously corrupt. We have to double, triple and quadruple check.
Below is background information, all real breaking stories involving Arturo, the man that is the source of the new affidavit. Again, you'll need to translate.
https://www.punto-informatico.it/leonardo-spa-attacco-informatico/
https://www.dagospia.com/rubrica-29/cronache/leonardo-spy-story-nbsp-strano-tipo-pirata-arturo-39-elia-254813.htm
https://www.startmag.it/innovazione/leonardo-finmeccanica-chi-sono-e-cosa-hanno-fatto-secondo-i-pm-i-due-arrestati/
https://www.businessinsider.com/exclusive-leonardo-hack-targeted-military-plane-details-arrest-warrant-shows-2020-12
https://www.glonaabot.it/etichetta/Arturo+D+'+Elia
http://www.aeropolis.it/aerospazio-campania-le-luci-e-ombre-della-cyberguerra-di-pomigliano-darco/
"@JoeCool05425148" might just be the most boomer-ific username to ever exist on the internet.
Welp, imma pull the trigger on some sheets.
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Use code “Hunter” for 50% off your next virtual computer. Biden says it gives him the best nights sleep he’s ever had.
He's calling their bluff. God bless our based Pillow Merchant for he has dragon energy.
“Joe Cool” needs to be very careful about who he’s threatening.
A serious investigation that would also force disclosure of source code would be a great step in transparency.
Lawsuits equal discovery. Discovery equal Dominion be fooked.
Awww....wook at deh widdle mad face. Somebody missed their nap.
Never wanted a new pillow more than right now
To prove defamation you have to prove its a lie.
THIS is what we need! Lawsuits mean EVIDENCE CANNOT BE SIMPLY IGNORED. Will expose everything! DO IT, PILLOW MAN!! WE LOVE AND SUPPORT YOU! HELL, WE'LL FUND YOUR LEGAL FEES!
I need to buy some sheets.
remember when, a certain libtarded gossip rag, ousted a certain paypal bilionaire as gay?
effectively raping him, of his privacy?
and then later, that billionaire uses the libel of a certain wrestler to destroy that libtarded rag...
Pepe Ridge Farms, remembers...
If they were willing to go to court they already would have, they wouldn't have bothered with cease and desist letters. They're terrified of discovery, which is why they hope that by threatening lawsuits that they can get people to shut up, because they know if it actually goes to court they're fucked. This is the same reason why they have yet to file a lawsuit against anyone that they've sent these cease and desist letters to.
Best game of chicken EVER!... My money is on the based pillow merchant!
$1.00 from each pillow purchase goes to legal fees
They're bluffing because they really don't want to air their shit out in court. Let alone, have their brand in the public spotlight where the case revolves around the integrity of their product.
Discovery will be a bitch for Dominion.
Breaking: “mike sues msn for writing an article calling him a crockpot”
This is the reality I want to live in
Bring those machines in my state. We will beat the shit out of them with aluminum bats. I know about 50 people ready to swing. BRING IT. Looking forward to it. My little box of tea.
All bark, let's see them do it. Keep the steal in the news. Perfect
Sosumi
Discovery will be a huge bitch for Dominion if they go through with it and sue him.
Literally a private citizen is being threatened by a corrupt voting machine company for free speech!!! businesses are literally on board FUCCCCKKK U!! Fight dude fight it’s coming for us all
Even with rock solid evidence of fraud the courts cannot be trusted. Lindell has too much faith in the court system. The last 4 years proved it is a broken system. He will get an activist judge.
I don't get that . I get the attitude and I get the courage.
But if the supreme court and all courts of all these states have just proven to be corrupt by IGNORING evidence and proofs of corruption or a crime. Then this lawsuit will be horrible for him. No matter how much evidence and how much proofs and no matter who the lawyers are , they will lose if the judges are corrupt.
The slight difference is that they dismissed the obvious election fraud cases for standing, which means they never looked at the evidence, nor was discovery forced. A lawsuit will require discovery and Dominion can't avoid it if they actually sue because it is about the "accuracy" of their systems.
Someone need to put Mike Lindell on suicide watch before the Democrats get to him.
Mr. Lindell could buy Domionion 100x’s. you ever slept on one of his pillows? Butter! I just ordered 8 more for my couch
Of course he would welcome this... discovery would destroy Dominion. He knows it’s a bluff.
In other news, Joe Cool is anything but.
If's he's a crackpot who should be so careful, why's this guy so mad about it? Shouldn't he be happy that the truth can come out in court?