Win uses cookies necessary for site functionality, as well as for personalization. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies as described in our Privacy Policy.
TLDR: Trump started a two year probe into foreign election interference which concluded that Obama sent untraceable funds to Iran/Al-Qaeda to change votes from Trump to Biden on Dominion voting machines using the Leonard (Italy/Israel) satellite
Executive Order 13848 started a probe into foreign election interference which turned into the “Most Complex Military Operation in History”
In the 2020 general election, votes were changed from Trump to Biden through Dominion via Leonardo’s Opsat-3000 satellite (the result of a joint venture between Italy and Israel)
Arturo D’Elia was the hacker who switched votes
Italian government (Renzi) on the brink of collapse
Obama sent $400mm-$1.3bn of untraceable US taxpayer money to fund Iran’s military expansion which is now the “home base” for Al-Qaeda
Igzanio Moncada, CEO of FATA SpA, a wholly owned subsidiary of Leonardo SpA, is believed to be a bridge between some secret services and the Italian Beijing Business Association, the Italian Iran Business Association and the Italian Qatar Business Association. It has been stated that Moncada may be a key figure in the eight month planning of the election hacking in Italy.
Well for one I've worked with satellites, self service machines, security, auditing, hacking in competitive systems, etc. When I read something like this I'm reading what looks like a bunch of stories to lead the computer illiterate for example astray.
I can tell you that hacking the numbers like this isn't that simple. It's also a major distraction from the scene of the crime and the original fraud argument. If I'm running an art gallery with a famous piece of art then I run checks to make sure no one has swapped it with a fake par the course. It doesn't matter if there's some theory that someone has it in Italy or whatever.
When we started this we've had serious and legitimate concerns with the election.
First, we want to validate it, investigate and check for fraud, errors, etc. When it comes down to it with that it doesn't matter if China hacked it, aliens hacked it, that's all just noise. You investigate all the machines, ballots, databases, audit, run checks, records, etc anyway. In fact this should be standard election procedure.
We've also known from the start that mail in ballots and things like illegal immigrants voting open the door for fraud. We also know of other election violations both actual and potential.
It might be more mundane but somehow the pursuit of legitimate leads and activities is being hijacked by what's looks like a poorly construed piece of fanfiction.
This has a distinct effect. I think a lot of this unverifiable and dodgy as hell information coming out of entirely different jurisdictions is BS. A lot of people will think that and they'll not be unreasonable. Now if I go to someone and talk about election fraud they'll say that's BS. They'll think I'm referring to this nonsense. The topic of election fraud ends up associated with the wrong thing. Stories that might as well be a bunch of old wives tales.
Associating the call for election fraud with something clearly dodgy does fraudsters a great service. This ridiculous story driven quests for election fraud.
At this point the only relevant fact remaining is that the Democrats have basically destroyed the scene of the crime and denied the right to contest the election or for it to be verified. That solely throws the election and makes the result illegitimate.
I think the worst thing to watch out for is not just people talking about it but completely transplanting the original quest for election fraud with this rabbit hole.
There are other warning signs like the professor who originally fronted this works for a left wing institute.
I’ve worked with computers for quite some time. I’ve read the specs on the Dominion Election Management System and am surprised that software such as SSH, IIS servers are running on the package. Talk about a vulnerabilities.
I’ve also previously posted a link to a Georgia Election Committee hearing where a credible witness stated that Dominion personal remotely dialed into the system to make upgrades/changes. That’s a huge red flag.
Accordingly, I’ve come to believe that Dominion Voting Systems are indeed vulnerable to remote fuckery. The only question is who ordered the systems in several precincts to shut down and how did those spikes for Biden appear immediately afterwards.
I’ve studied his background and Arturo D’Elia has the skillset to pull off this fraud.
I DO NOT know if this ItalyGate story is entirely BS or not. But the older gentleman stated in the affidavit that D’Elia made backup copies of the original and manipulated election data. That's the hook to this story.
If you simply hack into the machines or intercept the traffic and change the numbers then you also need to hack the hard copies. You actually have to penetrate more of the system then that to backfill for example.
Computers can be hacked doesn't cut it. If you read this Affidavit it looks like it's written by clueless professor with no technical experience spinning stories who works with a psychology and sociology department. If you read it much of it doesn't make any sense.
What has military grade encryption have to do with anything? I don't need to study his skillset I can see questionable statements and complete nonsense in the affidavit.
Dominion in particular is shoddy as hell but it's irrelevant. When you investigate you check everything. Now we're shifting away from the ballots, people and machines involved in the vote to Europe and now outerspace.
People always claim to have evidence that never sees the light of day. This is a case of data or GTFO.
The Dominion specs list Microsoft SQL Server (and MS SQL Server Express) as its databases. MySql is also listed. Doesn’t matter which DB is used to store the data a batch SQL Command could alter millions of votes in seconds.
D’Elia’s resume states: “I have developed a tool for SQL Injections database, MySQL, MSSQL, Oracle and PostgreSQL”. He is also the developer of fhclive.org (Forensic Hard Copy) “created exclusively to automate and speed up the identical copy of mass memories”.
I don’t know exactly what method was used but judging by the hack against Leonardo SpA it’s clear that this guy is an expert at data extraction and manipulation.
Military-grade encryption refers to AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) with 256-bit keys, it’s built into Windows. No big deal.
Alfio D'Urso, the elderly gentleman who presented the affidavit and video to the world, is a well respected 69 yr. old lawyer who lives in Sicily. The Naples police want to talk to him because they are investigating his affidavit. But they can’t find him.
Why was the vote count stopped in several key swing states around the same time and then when they restarted Biden magically is in the lead? That needs to be explained before a lot of people will have faith in voting machines, if they ever do.
I’ve read every article out there that attempts to debunk this affidavit and none of them have convinced me that what was stated is physically impossible. Unlikely, perhaps, but impossible, no!
General Flynn stated as much on Twitter and immediately got banned. When he says it’s total BS I’ll believe it.
Half the people who work in IT and security are morons who argue from naivety and really only know things they don't understand like to keep the machine patched or look in the installed programs list and to follow procedure. Like all the idiots complaining that the NHS isn't using Windows 10 yet don't understand security and are just bossing people around with an MS sales pitch.
You're being socialed right now making nonsense arguments purely on his background or making a fallacy appealing to reputation. There's absolutely nothing substantial to back up his claims and the affidavit doesn't read as credible. It has multiple signs of being dishonest.
I've also hacked and that includes SQL injection. It's relatively trivial. There's no real evidence of anything in this sequence of images. It's garbage. It's information pollution. It's all based on external public information when what we need are the internals.
When I make a self service machine someone can in theory hack it though it might be prohibitive but it gets picked up when things like stock count is done or we check how much money we actually have. A good system design will raise the detection threshold after prevention has reached it's limit.
The proper way to investigate this is to challenge the system itself, the election and voting system. It should not be possible to simply hack in and fiddle the numbers without detection. If I manage to work out how to hack the self service machine and skip having to pay it'll eventually picked up that there was no money transaction for that purchase. Stock count or the books won't balance.
You only need to check a few thousand random ballots to detect any gross miscount. This is what you're not getting. You're arguing from ignorance.
What we need to do is get back on the trail. When you work a system you check everything as standard and make sure things all line up.
If the way the system is designed makes it impossible to know if there was fraud or not then that's part of discovery. For example the ability to adjudicate and backfill the record.
I've seen huge irregularity and invalidations of the election system including tell tale suspicious signs but that doesn't mean this particular account of how it went down is true. When things look right people spin all kinds of tales and come up with all kinds of theories but the only thing that really gets to the bottom of it is a thorough investigation of the system. How it works, what happened, the records, etc.
Every support ticket I've ever handled and had to investigate someone noticed something didn't look right. Sometimes it's fine and just something they don't understand like a low frequency event they saw first time. Many other times something is wrong. In virtually all cases they don't actually know why it is wrong just that it is. The same as if you get a phone bill for five hundred dollars then you know something went wrong but you don't know what straight away. That's what you have to investigate to find out. In nearly every case the person comes up with a theory and solution both of which are wrong. Things don't take their real shape until you can look at everything involved.
Their refusal to do this seals the deal. They keep you in the dark on purpose and wont let you know how it went down. Then you go crazy with your imagination making excessive use of insufficient data. In my view if I can't audit the system then the system fails so they have failed themselves or self declared.
We saw this psychological craze with the UFO fad already. In this case a very serious concern is being turned into a spectacle. With the UFO craze there were so many fake accounts never any real evidence that if aliens did just pop down, walk around then go on their way you'd never be about to tell the real account from the fakes. We don't know exactly what happened. We want to find out what happened or what could have happened. They're making it impossible to find out. This is the situation we're in. That action alone is sufficient to cry foul and invalidates the election result.
The same as if you're working for the book of records. If someone comes to you and says they jumped 100 feet so you have to put them in the book and then you try to verify this and they say you're not allowed to look at the footage of the sports centre for example then you don't put it in the book.
Arguably it's on of a lack of transparency among other things.
Unless you can show me a screenshot of the legal affidavit in italian, on official italian legal format? This is bullshit and likely just Arturo trying to extradited to save his ass from the 2017 crimes he committed.
I and several other Italian pedes have looked into this. Do not put much stock into it.
Executive Order 13848 started a probe into foreign election interference which turned into the “Most Complex Military Operation in History”
In the 2020 general election, votes were changed from Trump to Biden through Dominion via Leonardo’s Opsat-3000 satellite (the result of a joint venture between Italy and Israel)
Arturo D’Elia was the hacker who switched votes
Italian government (Renzi) on the brink of collapse
Obama sent $400mm-$1.3bn of untraceable US taxpayer money to fund Iran’s military expansion which is now the “home base” for Al-Qaeda
Igzanio Moncada, CEO of FATA SpA, a wholly owned subsidiary of Leonardo SpA, is believed to be a bridge between some secret services and the Italian Beijing Business Association, the Italian Iran Business Association and the Italian Qatar Business Association. It has been stated that Moncada may be a key figure in the eight month planning of the election hacking in Italy.
And not a peep in the news
so obamagate 2: the big nothing
I honestly think this may be a misinformation campaign.
For which reasons?
Well for one I've worked with satellites, self service machines, security, auditing, hacking in competitive systems, etc. When I read something like this I'm reading what looks like a bunch of stories to lead the computer illiterate for example astray.
I can tell you that hacking the numbers like this isn't that simple. It's also a major distraction from the scene of the crime and the original fraud argument. If I'm running an art gallery with a famous piece of art then I run checks to make sure no one has swapped it with a fake par the course. It doesn't matter if there's some theory that someone has it in Italy or whatever.
When we started this we've had serious and legitimate concerns with the election.
First, we want to validate it, investigate and check for fraud, errors, etc. When it comes down to it with that it doesn't matter if China hacked it, aliens hacked it, that's all just noise. You investigate all the machines, ballots, databases, audit, run checks, records, etc anyway. In fact this should be standard election procedure.
We've also known from the start that mail in ballots and things like illegal immigrants voting open the door for fraud. We also know of other election violations both actual and potential.
It might be more mundane but somehow the pursuit of legitimate leads and activities is being hijacked by what's looks like a poorly construed piece of fanfiction.
This has a distinct effect. I think a lot of this unverifiable and dodgy as hell information coming out of entirely different jurisdictions is BS. A lot of people will think that and they'll not be unreasonable. Now if I go to someone and talk about election fraud they'll say that's BS. They'll think I'm referring to this nonsense. The topic of election fraud ends up associated with the wrong thing. Stories that might as well be a bunch of old wives tales.
Associating the call for election fraud with something clearly dodgy does fraudsters a great service. This ridiculous story driven quests for election fraud.
At this point the only relevant fact remaining is that the Democrats have basically destroyed the scene of the crime and denied the right to contest the election or for it to be verified. That solely throws the election and makes the result illegitimate.
Thanks for answering my question with your cogent reply. Gonna share this with others that mention the Italy gate thing.
I think the worst thing to watch out for is not just people talking about it but completely transplanting the original quest for election fraud with this rabbit hole.
There are other warning signs like the professor who originally fronted this works for a left wing institute.
Is the professor you’re referring to Jovan Pullitzer, or is it someone else?
The one in the affidavit.
I’ve worked with computers for quite some time. I’ve read the specs on the Dominion Election Management System and am surprised that software such as SSH, IIS servers are running on the package. Talk about a vulnerabilities.
I’ve also previously posted a link to a Georgia Election Committee hearing where a credible witness stated that Dominion personal remotely dialed into the system to make upgrades/changes. That’s a huge red flag.
https://youtu.be/e35f4pUIYOg?t=7765
Accordingly, I’ve come to believe that Dominion Voting Systems are indeed vulnerable to remote fuckery. The only question is who ordered the systems in several precincts to shut down and how did those spikes for Biden appear immediately afterwards.
I’ve studied his background and Arturo D’Elia has the skillset to pull off this fraud.
https://www.f6s.com/arturodelia
I DO NOT know if this ItalyGate story is entirely BS or not. But the older gentleman stated in the affidavit that D’Elia made backup copies of the original and manipulated election data. That's the hook to this story.
At this point what’s there to lose?
If you simply hack into the machines or intercept the traffic and change the numbers then you also need to hack the hard copies. You actually have to penetrate more of the system then that to backfill for example.
Computers can be hacked doesn't cut it. If you read this Affidavit it looks like it's written by clueless professor with no technical experience spinning stories who works with a psychology and sociology department. If you read it much of it doesn't make any sense.
What has military grade encryption have to do with anything? I don't need to study his skillset I can see questionable statements and complete nonsense in the affidavit.
Dominion in particular is shoddy as hell but it's irrelevant. When you investigate you check everything. Now we're shifting away from the ballots, people and machines involved in the vote to Europe and now outerspace.
People always claim to have evidence that never sees the light of day. This is a case of data or GTFO.
The Dominion specs list Microsoft SQL Server (and MS SQL Server Express) as its databases. MySql is also listed. Doesn’t matter which DB is used to store the data a batch SQL Command could alter millions of votes in seconds.
D’Elia’s resume states: “I have developed a tool for SQL Injections database, MySQL, MSSQL, Oracle and PostgreSQL”. He is also the developer of fhclive.org (Forensic Hard Copy) “created exclusively to automate and speed up the identical copy of mass memories”.
I don’t know exactly what method was used but judging by the hack against Leonardo SpA it’s clear that this guy is an expert at data extraction and manipulation.
Military-grade encryption refers to AES (Advanced Encryption Standard) with 256-bit keys, it’s built into Windows. No big deal.
Alfio D'Urso, the elderly gentleman who presented the affidavit and video to the world, is a well respected 69 yr. old lawyer who lives in Sicily. The Naples police want to talk to him because they are investigating his affidavit. But they can’t find him.
Why was the vote count stopped in several key swing states around the same time and then when they restarted Biden magically is in the lead? That needs to be explained before a lot of people will have faith in voting machines, if they ever do.
I’ve read every article out there that attempts to debunk this affidavit and none of them have convinced me that what was stated is physically impossible. Unlikely, perhaps, but impossible, no!
General Flynn stated as much on Twitter and immediately got banned. When he says it’s total BS I’ll believe it.
Half the people who work in IT and security are morons who argue from naivety and really only know things they don't understand like to keep the machine patched or look in the installed programs list and to follow procedure. Like all the idiots complaining that the NHS isn't using Windows 10 yet don't understand security and are just bossing people around with an MS sales pitch.
You're being socialed right now making nonsense arguments purely on his background or making a fallacy appealing to reputation. There's absolutely nothing substantial to back up his claims and the affidavit doesn't read as credible. It has multiple signs of being dishonest.
I've also hacked and that includes SQL injection. It's relatively trivial. There's no real evidence of anything in this sequence of images. It's garbage. It's information pollution. It's all based on external public information when what we need are the internals.
When I make a self service machine someone can in theory hack it though it might be prohibitive but it gets picked up when things like stock count is done or we check how much money we actually have. A good system design will raise the detection threshold after prevention has reached it's limit.
The proper way to investigate this is to challenge the system itself, the election and voting system. It should not be possible to simply hack in and fiddle the numbers without detection. If I manage to work out how to hack the self service machine and skip having to pay it'll eventually picked up that there was no money transaction for that purchase. Stock count or the books won't balance.
You only need to check a few thousand random ballots to detect any gross miscount. This is what you're not getting. You're arguing from ignorance.
What we need to do is get back on the trail. When you work a system you check everything as standard and make sure things all line up.
If the way the system is designed makes it impossible to know if there was fraud or not then that's part of discovery. For example the ability to adjudicate and backfill the record.
I've seen huge irregularity and invalidations of the election system including tell tale suspicious signs but that doesn't mean this particular account of how it went down is true. When things look right people spin all kinds of tales and come up with all kinds of theories but the only thing that really gets to the bottom of it is a thorough investigation of the system. How it works, what happened, the records, etc.
Every support ticket I've ever handled and had to investigate someone noticed something didn't look right. Sometimes it's fine and just something they don't understand like a low frequency event they saw first time. Many other times something is wrong. In virtually all cases they don't actually know why it is wrong just that it is. The same as if you get a phone bill for five hundred dollars then you know something went wrong but you don't know what straight away. That's what you have to investigate to find out. In nearly every case the person comes up with a theory and solution both of which are wrong. Things don't take their real shape until you can look at everything involved.
Their refusal to do this seals the deal. They keep you in the dark on purpose and wont let you know how it went down. Then you go crazy with your imagination making excessive use of insufficient data. In my view if I can't audit the system then the system fails so they have failed themselves or self declared.
We saw this psychological craze with the UFO fad already. In this case a very serious concern is being turned into a spectacle. With the UFO craze there were so many fake accounts never any real evidence that if aliens did just pop down, walk around then go on their way you'd never be about to tell the real account from the fakes. We don't know exactly what happened. We want to find out what happened or what could have happened. They're making it impossible to find out. This is the situation we're in. That action alone is sufficient to cry foul and invalidates the election result.
The same as if you're working for the book of records. If someone comes to you and says they jumped 100 feet so you have to put them in the book and then you try to verify this and they say you're not allowed to look at the footage of the sports centre for example then you don't put it in the book.
Arguably it's on of a lack of transparency among other things.
The Affidavit you show is not legal.
Unless you can show me a screenshot of the legal affidavit in italian, on official italian legal format? This is bullshit and likely just Arturo trying to extradited to save his ass from the 2017 crimes he committed.
I and several other Italian pedes have looked into this. Do not put much stock into it.