Upvote all posts advocating secession! REXIT (Republican state / county EXIT) is the only way to MAGA!
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No need to "reconquer" by force. All we need is our freedom.
The difference was obvious between East and West Germany, North and South Korea, and every other time there was a separation between left (socialist) and right (capitalist) politics in any culture.
Our superiority will be obvious, even to the "champagne socialists" that now vote against us, and they will crawl to our side - under our new anti-socialist Constitution that will make their former politics impossible.
What they want is power - like the world's worst heroin addict wants heroin. And using race-baiting and "white guilt" has been a very effective new tactic for them - anyone who stands in the way of their power is a "racist" "sexist" "nazi" etc.
The new "victim groups" (including low-IQ and mentally ill people) replace the old "working class" as their power base (since most people who actually do useful work are no longer on their side). That's Cultural Marxism 101.
Communists only kill people when they have to. (Yes, killing tens of millions of people is the lesser of their crimes.) They would much rather have us as brainwashed communist slaves!
They would turn the whole world into a North Korea in order to rule it! They would usher in a dystopian dark age, in which there is no hope of knowing the truth, much less hope of resistance or escape!
Fool, secession is not the only path forward. Many have fought and died to keep our union together, and you let this slip your mind and pay no thought to it.
Secession is a recipe for war and disaster and misery. We must fight to keep our union together, not to break it apart.
"I'm all ears" to hear a better alternative. But being a slave in a communist-majority country is far, far worse.
Not an argument. "Many have fought and died to keep" every empire in history: the Mongol Empire, the British Empire, the Soviet Empire, etc - that doesn't make them good!
Rational people fight for rational political principles, like liberty and independence - the Individual Rights to Life, Liberty, and Property. It's no virtue to have blind faith in "my nation right or wrong" even as it is taken over by communists!
What do you base this on? (Aside, perhaps, from your love of the taste of Beijing Biden's ass - if you'd be so miserable without it, then you don't have to join us.)
USA, India, etc were created by secession from the British Empire. It was an improvement.
Poland and Finland were created by secession from the Russian Empire. It was an improvement.
Hungary and others were created by secession from the Austrian Empire. It was an improvement.
Britain just seceded from the EU. It is an improvement (in progress).
There are literally hundreds of examples!
Statist brainwashing. "We must obey no matter what!"
This is the only time I'll comply with shameless updoot pandering....
I'm not asking for myself. I hope everyone will post about secession!
More! More!!
Constitutional Convention > Secession.
Why secede before trying a constitutional convention?
Because you have no idea what you are talking about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_to_propose_amendments_to_the_United_States_Constitution
You need legislatures of three-fourths (presently 38) of the states to give you permission to secede! Imagine George Washington having to get permission from three-fourths of the legislators in the British Empire!
We now live in a majority-communist country. Beijing Biden won the popular vote by 7,000,000 (and, no, they couldn't have cheated by that much) (and, if voting was mandatory, then most people too lazy to mail a letter would vote for him too) (and they are about to import & legalize tens of millions more Dems for the next election).
A Constitutional Convention would cancel the First Amendment ("""hate speech"""), Second Amendment ("""common sense gun control"""), etc.
A constitutional convention can resolve the issue of the election, further secure existing rights, remove politicians and other corrupted from their positions, implement term limits, create a body separate from the federal government that investigates and prosecutes members of the federal government while being controlled by the several states, and anything else that can be imagined! It can also be limited in its scope, only permitted to resolve specific issues. We can prevent a runaway convention.
Of course I understand that it takes 34 states to pass an amendment that then needs 38 states to adopt the amendment. This is not easy to do, but must be tried. There was no option for our founders to change the UK government through a constitutional convention, but they may have tried if there was. The constitutional convention is a power reserved to the states and the people to be attempted when our government fails as miserably as it has now. It is there because the founders did not previously have that option. It was obviously intended by them to be used by the people as a last resort, before we exercise our second amendment rights.
I am furious right now. I can barely control my anger at the ignorant and malign traitorous shit stains across the country that played any part, large or small, in the stealing of the election and the usurpation of our president and our constitution. They must pay for what they have done. I would prefer that they are investigated, arrested, tried, and are served with the most severe punishments allowed by law.
This would serve as a reminder to our politicians and bureaucrats that the founders were right when they affirmed that the people were the “supreme authority” and that all governments exist at the consent of the governed, serve by only their leave, and can be called before them to answer for their crimes and receive their punishment for their crimes.
Furthermore, this would demonstrate to ourselves, our government, and the world, that our constitution, our society, our laws, our traditions, and our way of life is superior and to be protected, preserved, defended, and emulated.
Secession, without a constitutional convention, would seem at first, to be the best immediate end to a dire situation, but would further increase the risk to our lives, liberties, and properties in perpetuity. I can elaborate on that later if you wish, but I do believe in secession, as a last resort. Attempting to resolve our grievances through a constitutional convention that fails would convince a large percentage of the American people that are naturally averse to secession, that it is the only option left. It will convince the ignorant that the issues brought to light via the convention process must be resolved some way and there are no other options but secession and war. Secession now, would see much fewer supporters than what is needed to be successful.
Thank you for a well-written reply. But the facts remain:
There were only 27 states with a Republican-leaning PVI in 2016, probably less in 2020. Nowhere close to 38.
Not all Republican politicians will vote for secession. All Democrats and RINOs will vote against.
The
losstheft of the 2020 election gives Dems the ability to further strengthen their hand: pack the court, import & legalize tens of millions of low-IQ socialist migrants, DC & PR statehood, etc. This will also pull Republican politicians further to the left.Time spent pursuing this impossible goal is time not spent on an actual political migration and secession movement.
This endeavor will only entrench the fallacious belief that secession requires the consent of the whole empire.
They say the US Secession from the British Empire (inaccurately called "revolution") was initially only supported by 3% (it was definitely a minority at first). Secession activists can first target the most anti-socialist and secession-friendly counties in the most anti-socialist and secession-friendly states. Thousands of people moving into a very small county can make a huge difference. One success anywhere would crack the dam.
A failed county secession movement would further expose statist tyranny, and could flow into another political migration movement (ex. seasteading). A failed Constitutional Convention would be a huge political and propaganda victory for the left.
An option that may be easier than secession or a constitutional convention, would be for the majority of state governments to refuse to recognize the legitimacy of the biden/harris administration and the officers of the federal government appointed by them, and any laws, regulations, and judgements by them, until the stealing of the election is resolved. They could demand an observed investigation, audit, and recount of all votes, or then secession.
We're not Republican.