(need 38 more pedes. explained below)
EDIT - If you agree with the message please leave a comment so that I can get in touch with you via direct message. If you just upvote I will not be able to get in touch with you.
Fellow pedes and pedettes (that is all. there are only 2 genders)
If there is one lesson in all this, it is that the republican party is not standing for nationalist values. They are what is called "controlled opposition". The only purpose of keeping a second party as controlled opposition, is to confuse the people and give them a way to let out some steam before it builds up to make any real change.
Early on Trump had mentioned that he realized that he had to run from one of the big parties. That is because earlier, GOP voters had still not realized what the party really is and they were not ready to leave it. But now it is different. Now that ppl have seen the GOP for what it is, the party is finished. But it is not enough to finish the RAT (republican traitor) party. What is needed is for the nationalists to come together and try to build a movement that will not only stand for their values, but also be able to fight their political battles.
In this forum we are able to express our view freely, but I think it is not enough. We need to connect with each other and associate with each other so that we can build upon our memes and discussions all the way into actual, real political action.
For this, I am creating these threads, just so that ppl who are interested to talk and work in this direction can be found.
I've already spoken to a few ppl on this forum. And I would like to request that you too should try to reach out other ppl who are interested in fighting back. What I am thinking right now is that once we reach a critical mass of ppl (arbitrarily decided for now), we will either talk to the mods here to help us find some means to have discussions, or we will create a signal / telegram channel and discuss further.
Right now we need 40 more pedes to connect and form association in this manner. Please share your views and join hands with other fellow pedes to fight back.
(need 38 more pedes. explained below)
EDIT - If you agree with the message please leave a comment so that I can get in touch with you via direct message. If you just upvote I will not be able to get in touch with you.
Fellow pedes and pedettes (that is all. there are only 2 genders)
If there is one lesson in all this, it is that the republican party is not standing for nationalist values. They are what is called "controlled opposition". The only purpose of keeping a second party as controlled opposition, is to confuse the people and give them a way to let out some steam before it builds up to make any real change.
Early on Trump had mentioned that he realized that he had to run from one of the big parties. That is because earlier, GOP voters had still not realized what the party really is and they were not ready to leave it. But now it is different. Now that ppl have seen the GOP for what it is, the party is finished. But it is not enough to finish the RAT (republican traitor) party. What is needed is for the nationalists to come together and try to build a movement that will not only stand for their values, but also be able to fight their political battles.
In this forum we are able to express our view freely, but I think it is not enough. We need to connect with each other and associate with each other so that we can build upon our memes and discussions all the way into actual, real political action.
For this, I am creating these threads, just so that ppl who are interested to talk and work in this direction can be found.
I've already spoken to a few ppl on this forum. And I would like to request that you too should try to reach out other ppl who are interested in fighting back. What I am thinking right now is that once we reach a critical mass of ppl (arbitrarily decided for now), we will either talk to the mods here to help us find some means to have discussions, or we will create a signal / telegram channel and discuss further.
Right now we need 40 more pedes to connect and form association in this manner. Please share your views and join hands with other fellow pedes to fight back.
i'm willing to try a new path. if the last few years have taught us anything its that things do not have to be the way they are. big change can happen quickly.
Thank you very much pede. :) I am still trying to bring together a critical mass of ppl after which we will all gather to start common discussion. I will note down your handle and will keep in touch with you. :)
In the meantime, if you come across other pedes who also want to do something, fight back, and rejuvinate the nationalist political movement, then please connect with them so that gradually we may all coalsesce into a bigger group.
Well you see, my point here is that we should come together to connect and associate with each other. Whether it should be in the form of an umbrella organization, or a grassroot movement, or small groups, is up for discussions.
I suggest that we get together to discuss this with other pedes who are interested. What do you say?
Arizona GOP 3501 North 24th Street Phoenix, AZ 85016 (602) 957-7770
They're not answering the phone right now but I'll be calling again in the morning.
Post your states gop info , meeting schedule what happened when you called.
This is stupid. You have no chance of accomplishing anything with a new party. You must take over the gop instead of abandoning it.
One of the wise pedes I contacted said it best, "The form will follow the function".
The aim here is for us to organize and associate as a movement to fix the political problems and the underlying social problems. I myself am of the opinion that the republican party would never help in it, as we saw just a few days ago. But this is all up for decision, when we get together as the "MAGA movement".
Taking over the GOP instead is an option. We should discuss this among other MAGA pedes. What do you say?
A very large majority of "conservatives" will never donate to or vote for a third party. They'll continue donating to and voting for the gop no matter what. And thing with the dems. That's why the commies infiltrated the parties instead of supporting a communist party. If we want to take the country back we must take the gop back first. A third party is a giant waste of time and money because it's doomed to fail.
Even what you are saying "take back the GOP", would mostly mean the same thing - replacing the current GOP with a true nationalist party by getting support of those who have been voting for the RAT party. No? Someone might have the approach of tearing down the entire rotten structure and built afresh, some might want to re-use the foundation. But we can agree, that the shit needs to be rebuilt / recaptured, don't you think so?
No. I don't agree.
There are too many conservatives who will never donate to our vote for a different party. They will always donate to and vote for whoever the gop is pushing.
Starting another party is a terrible waste of time and money.
The only solution is to take over the gop. Go to the meetings, become a member, campaign for people who share your values. Set up recalls for people who don't.
This is the only reasonable path forward.
Any other path is the same as giving up completely.
It's going to be difficult and it's going to take a while.
Some of us have already started, what are you waiting for?
What state are you in?
I'll look up the meeting schedule for you so you and all your friends/family can go to the next meeting.
I wish you the very best of luck. If I'm wrong and you are right, I will be very happy to have been proven wrong. And if you are wrong then maybe someday we will start walking on the same path. Not all transformations go both ways. You can get into the head of a nice girl and make her lose her way, but it is not the same thing to get to an addict hooker and then reform her.
I see a lot of ppl here who are shitting on the Q ppl even though the Q wanted the same thing as rest of us here. They say that the Q ppl caused inaction and they did not do anything. I am not going to do whatever the Q did, but I'm not going to shit on them either. You are trying to fix the situation by going back to the same party that caused all this in the first place. I'm not going to stop you from it or discourage you from trying, but that is not the direction which inspires me to action.
Honestly I don't believe you'll take any action at all. I'm only responding for the benefit of the people who might read this.
My point is concerning exactly that. A large majority of conservatives would not have done that, IN THE PAST. But ask yourself, the votes that Trump got in this election, were they for the republican party or for Trump? Bush got the votes for the party, not for himself. So did Romney and what not. But not Trump Trump has changed the entire dynamics.
Could you have imagined a support base like Trump has, for any of the past RATs (Republican And Traitor)?
It is possible that what you are saying is the right direction to go. But should we not discuss it among us fellow pedes? What do you say?
I disagree. You live in internet land. Most conservatives will continue to donate to and vote for the gop, no matter who they run.
You have to take over your states gop. That's the only chance we have.