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The question is more of will he gets to enjoy his retirement? Will his children able to face the decades humiliations to come? Simply being called traitor everyday wherever you go has profound pyschological impact. Pence really has to hate Trump that much to willing create that legacy for his descendent.
I am not surprised he caved. When he was Indiana Gov they passed a law about girls bathrooms/abortion/religious freedom and he rescinded it due to pressure from the left. He is not a strong man like Trump. He doesnt fight. He is a go-along/get along Republican.
Trump became weak in his final days. History judges people harshly and I fear Trump's good policies might be overshadowed by this except something good happens this year.
I believe Trump did not want to start a civil war and knew we were at a disadvantage with the entire main stream and big tech lined up against us. Better to be like the Indians and retreat so as to fight another day. The battle
is lost but not the war. 74,000,000 Americans are not changing their minds about anything! Plus look how dire the Civil War was around 1863 yet we still won.
Lincoln arrested Journalists and Newspaper owners back in the day. Trump is too soft for actual domestic or civil war. Andrew Jackson went to war with the Private Bankers. Trump moved the Overton window; if he could move it, then he could literally start pushing things to where he wants. We would still win but we have to suffer first because we don't learn easily.
yes. the Overton window is more left because we didn't expose BLM and ANTIFA in the way they are meant to be exposed. We pandered so much and we didn't stop big tech from increasing their power; Big tech amplified the Overton window strongly to the left.
Trump didn't condemn BLM or actually do a press conference on their actions or what they are actually doing. He didn't go after the anti-white hatred hard enough. cracking down on BLM and ANTIFA in June would have derailed the plans of the globalists; it was a bad idea to play for optics especially when these groups are nation destroyers. Pandering to minorities continuously also weakened MAGA because a lot of pedes didn't pressure Trump to come out against BLM.
You need to think this through and not let emotions guide you. The media sways public opinion for low info voters and independents. Social media magnifies it exponentionally. Wars are not fought in the battlefield anymore. They are fought on social media and public opinion. We must shape public opinion (like we did kn abortion) and going off half cocked will turn public opinion against us. We are already fighting an uphill battle. Turn your ire upon the GOPe which is where the real problem lays.
We must shape public opinion... They control the optics. 4 years sucking Trump's cock and NOT FUCKING DEMANDING HE DO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO. Nah, we just rallied, WE DIDN'T FUCKING LET HIM KNOW THAT THE MAIN FUCKING THING HE SHOULD BE DOING IS DRAINING THE SWAMP. FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE. SWAMP WAS MOST IMPORTANT THING AND HE FUCKING DIDN'T ARREST ANYONE!!!!!!
One man against millions, traitors and sellouts everywhere, no support from the GOP. He did what he could. Direct your blame to your family and friends who vote Dem. They caused this.
Why didn't Trump connect with his base? His base is more important than anything else. Trump tried to be liked by every group in America and they didn't still like him.He was treated badly but he didn't use his power when it was needed. there are many similar people in history and history judges them harshly.
Trump was betrayed by his fellow Republicans..leaks, backstabbing, moles, traitors. It took a while for him to get it all sorted out. He was one man against the whole Dem/Left/Commie complex and most of those were bought and paid off by the Chinese who have infiltrated every institution in this country. Hard to fight against all that. He needed another four years and he won it except the dems cheated him out of it. Except now he will win in 2024 and maybe get two terms, 12 yrs total. Win Win.
I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't exactly who our next President. They'll rig his ass in just so they can claim "See the election are fair, a Republican won." All while knowing it's a twist of the knife.
Check out his twitter from before Trump. He has ALWAYS been 100% swamp. Open border, amnesty, huge tax breaks for corporations and not for us etc. Every bad GOP idea on the books he was it’s champion. Don’t you remember how reluctantly he announced it would be Pence for VP? They forced Pence on him and he just fulfilled his appointed role.
Cool, now that the inauguration is....15 hours away and every single conservative voice is in the process of being silenced. Very big brain move if true.
If he had done what Jenna Ellis advised, and it worked, he'd have been a hero. He'd be forever known as, "The guy who stopped the steal." Conservatives would have wanted to reward him and supported him in 2024.
He'd have been a lock for the GOP nomination and probably would have won the presidency because Biden would be too old and the DNC bench is very weak, as the 2020 campaign proved.
If her plan failed, he'd still be able to say, "I went with what my counsel advised me."
Nobody would have faulted him. It would be Ellis' fault if anyone's. But most Conservatives love Jenna, so nobody would have complained, especially because everyone knew it was a long shot.
And even if the plan failed, Pence could still have got sympathy support for a presidential run as the guy who did what he was told and did his best but was robbed along with Trump.
The whole idea that Pence was happier to give the presidency to a Democrat (!) who is Senile Senator (!) and in bed with China (!) than to get a chance at the presidency himself is absolutely mind-boggling to the point you have to wonder if he is insane.
I never had any reason to dislike him prior to his refusal to support Trump regarding the electoral vote challenges, but it was always in the back of my mind, that he and Paul Ryan were best friends. Birds of a feather...
Don't make the mistake of thinking that these politicians love or hate anyone. They only love themselves. Everything and everyone else is simply a tool for them.
why do you people think pence cares about running for president? He knows he wont be able to have a career after this hes going to be filthy rich from the dividends betraying america will bring him.
It's true. Even a half-hearted fake objection that was deliberately planned to fail would have at least looked like he was on our side, and we likely would have supported him. Not now.
He's a complete fraud, through and through. He is a liar on par with Bill Clinton and I'm beginning to suspect the horrible rumours I've heard about him are true. Satanic
The GOP thought that they could betray Trump and his voters would be sheep just like liberals and "vOtE reD nO mAttER wHo!" and continue to donate. Like Fox News, they are going to learn very quickly that conservatives are not idiots, and betrayal is an unforgivable sin.
He said about a year ago he planned on retiring if trump didnt win. now he gets to retire and fully paid for by the CCP
Retiring will no longer bring him peace I suspect.
He can go back to Indiana and have a little radio show
He’s not going home. Bought a home next to the swamp
Oh I don't expect him to live among the rest of us.
It's a huge book deal and home on Martha's vineyard for him.
None of these people live in reality. They live in their elitist bubbles where life goes on not giving a fuck about The People.
I think Bidet said he was going to retire too. We all saw how that turned out. I’m sure Pence will re-emerge.
He will become a consultant in DC. He is in no way retiring.
The question is more of will he gets to enjoy his retirement? Will his children able to face the decades humiliations to come? Simply being called traitor everyday wherever you go has profound pyschological impact. Pence really has to hate Trump that much to willing create that legacy for his descendent.
I am not surprised he caved. When he was Indiana Gov they passed a law about girls bathrooms/abortion/religious freedom and he rescinded it due to pressure from the left. He is not a strong man like Trump. He doesnt fight. He is a go-along/get along Republican.
The worst part is that Trump seemed to believe he would do it. Which means he told Trump he would do it and then didn't.
Posted this is an earlier thread last week. Pence is a coward. Nuff said.
Trump became weak in his final days. History judges people harshly and I fear Trump's good policies might be overshadowed by this except something good happens this year.
Outer Darkness is reserved for his kind.
he's a cunt
Went from being one of the most highly regarded people in America, to the most hated. Well done Pence.
It’s amazing he chose 99.99% of people hating him versus 45% hating him. Was just in Sanibel over Christmas and it’s a SMALL island....
McCain and Romney are no longer the most hated Republicans, MS. "My Father" PIGGY, should be happy and thank Pence for taking the top spot.
You are assuming we have had elections and will ever have elections. He must be hiding something either awfully bad or awfully good.
This. If China wants him installed, he will be installed.
They could just show polls on the news saying he is as popular as biden, and then fake the vote again. This is the way things are done around here.
Fuck that sanctimonious Judas. He could stroke out with the rest of those commie rat bastards - justice.
He didnt even need to say he knew there was election fraud, all he had to do was say there are some questions, and it would be good to look into it.
He could not even do that.
Now he'll spend the rest of his life hated everywhere he goes.
And for what? to win the temporary approval of some DC elites who spent the last 4 years laughing at him.
Unless they had something on him, from just a strategic/political point of view, this has to be the stupidest play ever.
oh... and its treasonous, too.
His leftist masters will treat him like a dog. The people he turned on will properly treat him like a Judas. He's done.
However, Trump did the same thing Pence did. When it came time to fight, to use the power of his office, Trump didn't do it.
I believe Trump did not want to start a civil war and knew we were at a disadvantage with the entire main stream and big tech lined up against us. Better to be like the Indians and retreat so as to fight another day. The battle is lost but not the war. 74,000,000 Americans are not changing their minds about anything! Plus look how dire the Civil War was around 1863 yet we still won.
There will not be another day
Thank you. Good luck in straightening out your country, too
Lincoln arrested Journalists and Newspaper owners back in the day. Trump is too soft for actual domestic or civil war. Andrew Jackson went to war with the Private Bankers. Trump moved the Overton window; if he could move it, then he could literally start pushing things to where he wants. We would still win but we have to suffer first because we don't learn easily.
I'd say the overton window is significantly more left than its ever been. It's 10x more left now than it was in 2016.
yes. the Overton window is more left because we didn't expose BLM and ANTIFA in the way they are meant to be exposed. We pandered so much and we didn't stop big tech from increasing their power; Big tech amplified the Overton window strongly to the left. Trump didn't condemn BLM or actually do a press conference on their actions or what they are actually doing. He didn't go after the anti-white hatred hard enough. cracking down on BLM and ANTIFA in June would have derailed the plans of the globalists; it was a bad idea to play for optics especially when these groups are nation destroyers. Pandering to minorities continuously also weakened MAGA because a lot of pedes didn't pressure Trump to come out against BLM.
"we won " lol
“We” as in the Union and keeping the country together and not split apart
I think we need to bring back the CSA. Honest question if Dixie rises up again where would you rather live Alabama or Illinois?
Huntsville where the Space Force is gonna be🤗
You need to think this through and not let emotions guide you. The media sways public opinion for low info voters and independents. Social media magnifies it exponentionally. Wars are not fought in the battlefield anymore. They are fought on social media and public opinion. We must shape public opinion (like we did kn abortion) and going off half cocked will turn public opinion against us. We are already fighting an uphill battle. Turn your ire upon the GOPe which is where the real problem lays.
We must shape public opinion... They control the optics. 4 years sucking Trump's cock and NOT FUCKING DEMANDING HE DO WHAT HE SAID HE WOULD DO. Nah, we just rallied, WE DIDN'T FUCKING LET HIM KNOW THAT THE MAIN FUCKING THING HE SHOULD BE DOING IS DRAINING THE SWAMP. FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE. SWAMP WAS MOST IMPORTANT THING AND HE FUCKING DIDN'T ARREST ANYONE!!!!!!
One man against millions, traitors and sellouts everywhere, no support from the GOP. He did what he could. Direct your blame to your family and friends who vote Dem. They caused this.
Why didn't Trump connect with his base? His base is more important than anything else. Trump tried to be liked by every group in America and they didn't still like him.He was treated badly but he didn't use his power when it was needed. there are many similar people in history and history judges them harshly.
You dont know what you are talking about
Trump was betrayed by his fellow Republicans..leaks, backstabbing, moles, traitors. It took a while for him to get it all sorted out. He was one man against the whole Dem/Left/Commie complex and most of those were bought and paid off by the Chinese who have infiltrated every institution in this country. Hard to fight against all that. He needed another four years and he won it except the dems cheated him out of it. Except now he will win in 2024 and maybe get two terms, 12 yrs total. Win Win.
Your vote doesn't count. They will cheat again and again and again and...
I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't exactly who our next President. They'll rig his ass in just so they can claim "See the election are fair, a Republican won." All while knowing it's a twist of the knife.
Word on the streets is his name is mentioned over and over in the Epstein flight logs. Hes a pervert like Joe
Good thing he was chosen as VP. Another stellar hire.
He could win and dominion would be the reason why.
Check out his twitter from before Trump. He has ALWAYS been 100% swamp. Open border, amnesty, huge tax breaks for corporations and not for us etc. Every bad GOP idea on the books he was it’s champion. Don’t you remember how reluctantly he announced it would be Pence for VP? They forced Pence on him and he just fulfilled his appointed role.
pedo?
Lin Wood says so. Everyone who stabbed GEOTUS in the back now gets their lives ruined.
Lin Wood says a lot of awesome shit.
I just wish he would prove any of it.
I hope I'm a big asshole in the next couple days. but dude. lin says a bunch of shit
Well, Lin posted whistleblower videos on Telegram today. Receipts for ya fren.
Cool, now that the inauguration is....15 hours away and every single conservative voice is in the process of being silenced. Very big brain move if true.
send me his telegram link
https://t.me/linwoodspeakstruth/103
Lin Wood is a crackpot.
If he had done what Jenna Ellis advised, and it worked, he'd have been a hero. He'd be forever known as, "The guy who stopped the steal." Conservatives would have wanted to reward him and supported him in 2024.
He'd have been a lock for the GOP nomination and probably would have won the presidency because Biden would be too old and the DNC bench is very weak, as the 2020 campaign proved.
If her plan failed, he'd still be able to say, "I went with what my counsel advised me."
Nobody would have faulted him. It would be Ellis' fault if anyone's. But most Conservatives love Jenna, so nobody would have complained, especially because everyone knew it was a long shot.
And even if the plan failed, Pence could still have got sympathy support for a presidential run as the guy who did what he was told and did his best but was robbed along with Trump.
The whole idea that Pence was happier to give the presidency to a Democrat (!) who is Senile Senator (!) and in bed with China (!) than to get a chance at the presidency himself is absolutely mind-boggling to the point you have to wonder if he is insane.
I told someone that Jenna Ellis was right but he is still stuck to CNN dick.
The fly was right!
Something tells me these monsters don't plan for us to be around by next election.
Face it, he was selected as vp to appease mainstream republicans.
I believe it was to appease Christian Republicans because of Trump’s divorces et al
He will have o% chance , just like Biden.
For such a devout Christian he sure was quick to play the role of Judas.
Why the hell did Trump thank Pence in his farewell video? I don't get it.
He is toast. And a Little creepy
I never had any reason to dislike him prior to his refusal to support Trump regarding the electoral vote challenges, but it was always in the back of my mind, that he and Paul Ryan were best friends. Birds of a feather...
The dude has aged 10 years in the last 2 weeks. He was on fire in PA. What the hell.
If votes don't matter.... he can still become future pres....
No way. Who would vote for him? RINO's? No MAGA or DEMS. That loses you about 90% of the voters.
Don't make the mistake of thinking that these politicians love or hate anyone. They only love themselves. Everything and everyone else is simply a tool for them.
Its not that he hated Trump its that he didnt want all his kid diddling to get leaked.
Not if Pence pays Dominion enough money
He doesn't want to be president. He wants to get back on the board of the Smithsonian to continue money laundering.
Turns out he wanted to be remembered as a PUSSY.
They are banking on the American people continuing to vote for the best of two evils as has always been the case BEFORE Trump.
I think they had blackmail on him and it was probably him getting fucked by a black male... lol
Mike Pence is a spineless coward.
good he is faggot
why do you people think pence cares about running for president? He knows he wont be able to have a career after this hes going to be filthy rich from the dividends betraying america will bring him.
I heard today that he is retiring and won't seek any positions in politics. He's a coward. To the highest degree.
That's fine, I was hoping DeSantis would run anways.
At least when Trump runs again he can choose a different VP now
Short of a miracle tomorrow where what he did was designed...I hope someone spits in his face. He deserves nothing less.
Zero percent chance... Have you been paying attention?
They don't need a snowballs chance in hell anymore. They cheat and get away with it.
He didn't have much choice. The swamp told him he'd be destroyed.
One day we will know what the deep state holds over him and the rest of the swamp turds.
It's true. Even a half-hearted fake objection that was deliberately planned to fail would have at least looked like he was on our side, and we likely would have supported him. Not now.
FACTS
Coward.
He's a complete fraud, through and through. He is a liar on par with Bill Clinton and I'm beginning to suspect the horrible rumours I've heard about him are true. Satanic
The GOP thought that they could betray Trump and his voters would be sheep just like liberals and "vOtE reD nO mAttER wHo!" and continue to donate. Like Fox News, they are going to learn very quickly that conservatives are not idiots, and betrayal is an unforgivable sin.