The evidence presented to state legislatures in SEVEN different states prompted them to file alternate electors.
Forget all else. The fact that whatever evidence or whatever happened led to SEVEN states submitting alternate electors is historically HUGE.
The fact that, prior to the organized attack on the capitol, some 36 senators and well over a hundred house reps had signed on to object to the seating of the electors, is historically huge.
Even having ONE senator sign on to an objection is historic and extremely rare.
It's common that house members object for posterity for whatever reason looks good for the camera. Happens every election cycle. The threshold necessary for a Senator to sign on is HUGE, and it was smashed with dozens of signatories this cycle.
Elections with no evidence of fraud does not have dozens of Senators objecting.
and there's always the glaring fact that if Biden were confident of his legitimate win and half the country were literally up in arms over allegations of "irregularities" any righteous leader would allow and exhaustive investigation until a reasonable objector satisfied the election was fairly conducted... not doing that alone is really all the incontrovertable proof I need if not that the ellection was rigged but at least that said newly installed leader is not a legitimate one with the best interest of the country as their goal.
(then add in the complete media blackout, coverup, gaslighting, followed by the false flag ops to distract from the rigged runoff in Georgia... by that point you have to be a soft-head from 4+ years of media manipulation not to see it clearly)
See, this is the problem. You have created a completely alternative reality. In fact not a single state, not one, presented alternate sets of electors.
If you bothered to listen to the Congressional certification of the EC votes you would have heard Pence going over the submitted slates of electors for every single state. And, in every case, Pence follows the same procedure which includes stating that there is only one set of electors. Take a look at the proceedings here (https://youtu.be/KzWS7gJX5Z8) and you can start at 15:04 when they go over Arizona and explicitly state there was only one slate of electors
The legislatures in many states submitted the alternate electors so they may be counted if the 2-hour debate had lead to a successful vote to count those electors instead. And my humble point was that 2020 had an unprecedented amount of such objections, and with the support of nearly 1/3 of the Senators, it's truly a contested election of historically unprecedented proportions.
"The legislatures" did no such thing. Some of the legislators that make up the legislature might've endorsed the "alternate electors", but without an official vote "the legislature" did nothing. Individual legislators have no official authority to submit anything.
Alternate electors are not legitimate unless appointed by a legitimate organ of the state they represent. None of the "alternate" electors were. The alternate electors thing was by far the least plausible of any strategy and wasted so much time and resources.
You are confusing the objections by Congress members (Representatives and Senators) which of course did happen with alternate sets of electors, which did not. Every state sent one, and only one, set of electors. There were no alternate sets of electors. The link you provide is misleading. Those “electors’ were not certified by any state and carried no legal authority which is why they were never even considered by Congress
And the 2 hour debate was not about choosing between two sets of electors. It was about objecting to the single set of electors presented by the states where there were objections (Arizona and PA).
That’s not true my friend
The evidence presented to state legislatures in SEVEN different states prompted them to file alternate electors.
Forget all else. The fact that whatever evidence or whatever happened led to SEVEN states submitting alternate electors is historically HUGE.
The fact that, prior to the organized attack on the capitol, some 36 senators and well over a hundred house reps had signed on to object to the seating of the electors, is historically huge.
Even having ONE senator sign on to an objection is historic and extremely rare.
It's common that house members object for posterity for whatever reason looks good for the camera. Happens every election cycle. The threshold necessary for a Senator to sign on is HUGE, and it was smashed with dozens of signatories this cycle.
Elections with no evidence of fraud does not have dozens of Senators objecting.
and there's always the glaring fact that if Biden were confident of his legitimate win and half the country were literally up in arms over allegations of "irregularities" any righteous leader would allow and exhaustive investigation until a reasonable objector satisfied the election was fairly conducted... not doing that alone is really all the incontrovertable proof I need if not that the ellection was rigged but at least that said newly installed leader is not a legitimate one with the best interest of the country as their goal.
(then add in the complete media blackout, coverup, gaslighting, followed by the false flag ops to distract from the rigged runoff in Georgia... by that point you have to be a soft-head from 4+ years of media manipulation not to see it clearly)
36 senators? I followed this pretty closely and I don't think there were ever more confirmed than Ted Cruz's dozen, Loeffler, and Hawley.
See, this is the problem. You have created a completely alternative reality. In fact not a single state, not one, presented alternate sets of electors.
If you bothered to listen to the Congressional certification of the EC votes you would have heard Pence going over the submitted slates of electors for every single state. And, in every case, Pence follows the same procedure which includes stating that there is only one set of electors. Take a look at the proceedings here (https://youtu.be/KzWS7gJX5Z8) and you can start at 15:04 when they go over Arizona and explicitly state there was only one slate of electors
See, this is the problem. You take the fact that the objections did not prevail as evidence that they did not occur.
https://amgreatness.com/2020/12/14/republican-electors-in-7-contested-states-cast-conditional-votes-for-president-trump-gop-electors-in-michigan-blocked/
The legislatures in many states submitted the alternate electors so they may be counted if the 2-hour debate had lead to a successful vote to count those electors instead. And my humble point was that 2020 had an unprecedented amount of such objections, and with the support of nearly 1/3 of the Senators, it's truly a contested election of historically unprecedented proportions.
"The legislatures" did no such thing. Some of the legislators that make up the legislature might've endorsed the "alternate electors", but without an official vote "the legislature" did nothing. Individual legislators have no official authority to submit anything.
Alternate electors are not legitimate unless appointed by a legitimate organ of the state they represent. None of the "alternate" electors were. The alternate electors thing was by far the least plausible of any strategy and wasted so much time and resources.
You are confusing the objections by Congress members (Representatives and Senators) which of course did happen with alternate sets of electors, which did not. Every state sent one, and only one, set of electors. There were no alternate sets of electors. The link you provide is misleading. Those “electors’ were not certified by any state and carried no legal authority which is why they were never even considered by Congress
And the 2 hour debate was not about choosing between two sets of electors. It was about objecting to the single set of electors presented by the states where there were objections (Arizona and PA).