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posted ago by UndeadRevolver ago by UndeadRevolver +210 / -0

Every single one of us should abandon the Republican party tomorrow, because THEY abandoned US. They betrayed our President, they betrayed our country, and now is the time to send a message... abandon them, and join whatever party Trump creates when he creates it. ALL OF US!

What do we have to lose, except a bunch of RINO swamp rat bastard cowards? We are Trump's fan club, and we need to send him this message to let him know we support HIM, not the GOP!

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The-nii 5 points ago +6 / -1

Why not take it over? Abandoning the gop en masse will lead to leftist control forever. Fight. Fight at the local level. Take over the apparatus. The last time a third party was successful was before the civil war

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The-nii 2 points ago +3 / -1

It’s not 95%. We are 80% of the party. All but 5/6 senators are pretty based. But especially on the state level, our legislators are even more so. Our problem was with a few spineless governors and Secretaries of State. Good luck garnering anything over 5% with a third party. That isn’t how politics works here.

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KekJeanVanDayum 3 points ago +3 / -0

Any one of those 6 republican held swing state legislatures could have done something. They did not.

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The-nii 0 points ago +1 / -1

You’ll never win another election with that attitude. The right doesn’t get to play the intellectual purity card in the same way the left does. We are a big tent party.

If the best we can do in Maine is Collins, that’s ok. We will never get a Christian conservative senator there. She’s a RINO, but she votes our way more often than not.

Now Murkowski or MCConnel? Primary the fuck out of them.

I’m tired of arguing with my own side but I will not surrender the GOP given that no third party has done jack shit in 170 years. I suppose the Bull Moose party had a year long run, but everyone still remembers Teddy as a Republican.

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FakeNametag 1 point ago +1 / -0

When we donate our money, they will give it to all the politicians we hate in the GOP. If we control our own party, we don't have to get their power structure out of the way.

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The-nii 0 points ago +1 / -1

Your new party will be tiny and insignificant and will serve to take votes away from viable republicans. Just like the Constitution Party in NY, the Libertarian Party nationwide or on the other side, the Green Party.

Our system is set up for a two party race. Until you realize that. We will. Lose.

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TearofLys 1 point ago +1 / -0

Most of the House Republicans opposed certification. A lot of good eggs there. Primary some (e.g. Liz Cheney), but the Senate is where we should focus most of our effort. Murkowski, Thune, Rubio, and Portman should definitely be primaried in 2022, and possibly some others. Luckily, Toomey and Burr are retiring, so we don't have to run against an incumbent. Then there are the governors. Of course Kemp and Ratberger have to go.

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jeffwingersballs 1 point ago +1 / -0

Let's just start with Liz Cheney and Mitch McConnell.

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Spudster 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agree. The better route is to take the party over. A third party is a bad idea.

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The-nii 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sigh. The organization aspects are huge.