I believe massive widespread voter fraud occured in 2020. OK? I believe it, I get it, they stole it once they could steal it again etc. etc.
BUT...There is absolutely no fucking reason not to keep voting. It takes minutes. You can sign up to get a by-mail ballot online making the process even more of a joke.
Yes these evil communist motherfuckers can and have rigged elections. But if you can spend 2 fucking minutes filling out a protest vote at the bare minimum you might make them have to rig something and at best they might be caught off-guard and let some shit get through.
I'm not saying "just vote", I'm just seeing tons of people saying "don't vote ever" "it's pointless" and things like that when really you guys are talking about 2 fucking minutes of your time and you exist in a world where it's possible your opponents could make a mistake.
If you really truly have something else to do with those 2 minutes that's more important or disruptive to our enemies: fine.
I see absolutely no advantage in saving communists the trouble of having to rig.
/rant
I believe massive widespread voter fraud occured in 2020. OK? I believe it, I get it, they stole it once they could steal it again etc. etc.
BUT...There is absolutely no fucking reason not to keep voting. It takes minutes. You can sign up to get a by-mail ballot online making the process even more of a joke.
Yes these evil communist motherfuckers can and have rigged elections. But if you can spend 2 fucking minutes filling out a protest vote at the bare minimum you might make them have to rig something and at best they might be caught off-guard and let some shit get through.
I'm not saying "just vote", I'm just seeing tons of people saying "don't vote ever" "it's pointless" and things like that when really you guys are talking about 2 fucking minutes of your time and you exist in a world where it's possible your opponents could make a mistake.
If you really truly have something else to do with those 2 minutes that's more important or disruptive to our enemies: fine.
I see absolutely no advantage in saving communists the trouble of having to rig.
/rant
From now on, I will either vote for a 3rd party candidate, or if one is not present on the ballot, I will abstain.
I will never vote GOP again, ever.
This course correction may take 20 years, but is necessary to dismantle the swamp.
You may say that this is self-defeating, but it is not. What President Trump taught us is that we must not have career politicians in DC. Trump was not a true Republican; he affiliated himself only to get elected.
If you have not learned that most valuable lesson from him, then continue to waste your vote.
IM not going to color in some bubbles to make me feel like I am doing my part.
I am not that stupid.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice well shame on ME
I second this.
While we know the vote may not count, it's literally little hassle at all to do it anyway.
It's our one duty as citizens no matter our lot in life. As soon as that Patriot Party comes, we all need to vote anyway to show them no matter how hard they rig shit, they cannot crush our will.
Get a coloring book, it'll have roughly the same effect.
I have to agree. I really dont understand the mindset of "well I'm gonna not vote, that'll show them"
You have 4 outcomes:
You vote and it's not rigged. You made a difference
You vote and its rigged. It sucks, but hey, they need to cheat to win
You dont vote and its rigged. You wouldntve made a difference anyway
You dont vote and it's not rigged. Well.. you just threw away your chance at making a difference.
Not voting is either neutral or negative. Voting is either positive or neutral. Much better possible outcome by voting rather than not.
If you're gonna vote, vote to Primary the swamp monsters or not at all
I'm not suggesting anybody vote for the GOP or DNC uniparty if that's what you're implying.. I truly think Primarying out those "in the swamp" is a good idea. Not voting prohibits the change from ever occuring.
Messed up the formatting. I mean, ok, try to primary the GOP, and vote for MAGA candidates. You can try.
Ah okay, got it.
My mindset is that we might as well "try". I dont see a downside to trying. That being said, I have a suspicion it will require more action than simply trying to primary candidates. But that doesnt mean we shouldnt vote.
I'm not a fan of the "we will get them in 2022 or 2024" crowd. But if theres a significant third party maga or trump-like candidate that emerges once more, (or one of the few Patriots that remain in GOP, theres not many left) I'd support them and cast a vote their way. If that type of candidate isnt on the ballot then I understand people's apprehension to wanting to vote.
True, but the only point I see in not voting at all is making it so the communists don't even have to rig.
Sure, but you can at least make them do corrupt bullshit which gives any possibility at all they'll face some consequences.
For 2 minutes you can do something that even might disrupt your enemy.
I’m saying the same thing on TDW daily. Literally the only way we’re 100% guaranteed to lose is if we don’t even try. Vote in the primaries— if your candidate doesn’t win, vote 3rd party in the general. Defeatism will cost us everything.
Accelerating the decline is the only cure
yes this. NOTHING KILLS COMMUNISTS FASTER THAN COMMUNISM
The sooner we collapse the sooner we can rebuild
Even with a MASSIVE surprise voting block that caused them to sloppily rig it into unbelievable statistics, they STILL pulled it off. Republicans are complicit in it, siding with Dems. Dems like it because it got them a W.
And that's why the Republicans are history. Do they have any chance of rigging their own primaries to the requisite degree if MAGA remains in tact, and votes in force?
If you're vote doesn't matter or count why feed the system???
Why instead of just COPING don't you BREAK THE FUCKING SYSTEM AND HOLD THOSE RESPONSIBLE ACCOUNTABLE
But nope it's the good old USSA now so
How does specifically not voting change any of this?
How does voting change any of this when votes cleaely don't count???
Atleast by NOT voting you are not actively helping them cheat
Also if everyone didn't vote when it comes to cheating they will have no votes to draw from and swap... you can't get 80m votes if only 40m people voted in total
But thats just me thinking logically and jmnot just blindly carrying on like nothing has happened
Because there's any chance at all.
Not voting doesn't help them not cheat, it saves them from having to cheat at all.
It's 2 minutes of your time and your enemy could make a mistake.
I'm not saying don't do whatever else you're planning, I'm saying this takes almost nothing.
What part of YOUR VOTE DOESN'T COUNT don't you understand???
If your vote doesn't count, why give it to them in the first place???
How can they cheat/flip/swap your vote when they don't have it???
If enough people didn't vote it would expose the fraud further as there would be no votes to use to cheat... Yes they might still win, but they might lose also, either way the fraud gets exposed
As opposed to just giving them your vote, knowing full well it's NOT going to count and they will manipulate it to guarantee they win!!!
Come on man, use your brain
If they could flip my vote they could just add a completely fake vote.
I don't see how giving up on voting completely helps anything.
All I'm saying is there's a chance and it takes 2 minutes. How inconvenienced will you really be?
Right so if 100m people don't vote but votes are added anyway... That kinda shows up way more obvious than votes just flipped
But sure if you want to impotently vote to give yourself the feeling of Dumbocracy then carry on
How would you ever prove 100m didn't vote if they're going this far?
Also giving them your vote knowing they will just manipulate it anyway, is giving them consent to rig elections
But please keep voting like a good sheep
If my vote counts to get rid of every traitor Republican then I will. If they are all using the cheating machines there may be no point.
Well it provides the controlled opposition (GOP) cover for the pacification that campaigning and voting provides people who are upset with the “system”. People who vote are unlikely to seek other means of change, even if they “know” it’s pointless.
That's fair, and I'm not shitting on anyone's protest ideas, I'm just saying this takes 2 minutes and we should do it also.
You aren’t wrong, so long as there is no conscious belief that it will do anything.
There are some pretty reasonable excuses not to vote actually.
I posit that voting takes 2 minutes and people occasionally fail even at rigging.
What's the best counter-argument?
Voting and politics is dead. Whatever happens going forward With Trump supporters will be devoid of all things Republican or Democrat. Voting with your wallet is more effective at this point.
I agree, I would even allow that is more important. But voting takes 2 minutes.