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Jared Kushner ruined a good chunk of things. He was a horrible influence on Trump unfortunately, and it led to some questionable pardons and him to not make certain decisions.
For instance, if the world stopped recycling paper, and changed from plastic to paper grocery bags, it would dramatically impact carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere.
She fucked herself over then because people hate her now, and her brand and think she’s the white devil spawn. If Ivanka thinks she has a career in politics as a Leftie, good luck cause they don’t want nothing to do with her. Especially when they were lying saying she was stealing money. Never forget the recent footage of her getting heckled at and boo’d. She shot herself in the foot continuing to support them.
If a journalist recieves, unsolicited, materials that were obtained illegally by a third party, the 1st Amendment and case law makes it perfectly clear that it is legal to publish them. The ground is a little bit less solid if said journalist cultivates a reputation for publishing leaked materials and actively encourages the public to leak to him, but despite the lack of case law, most scholars agree that said journalist would still be in good shape, legally speaking.
The problem comes up when that journalist works with a specific person and the two of them conspire together to break other laws. This is what the initial indictment of Assange in the US was about. Practicing journalism gets you some leeway, but it isn't blanket permission to disregard other laws that might inconvenience you.
Think what you will about him and his practices, and the motivations of the people going after him, but there isn't much question that the law he allegedly broke is not bullshit - it is a law that we really do want to keep and enforce. And the evidence presented in the indictment, if genuine, makes a pretty clear case.
In the bigger picture, we (as a country) have rivals, and those rivals are staffed up with ruthless stonefaced killers. We are projecting a lot of geopolitical weakness these days, and a strong case could easily be made that allowing a foreigner to play spymaster by turning one of our trusted intelligence officers into a spy against us, without so much as a slap on the wrist, would be yet another weakness that we don't need to project out into the world right now.
Sadly, his physical location in the UK plays against him here. A pardon would look much less weak if he were in US custody on US soil awaiting US justice than it would to pardon him now, while he is still technically a fugitive from justice. The former looks like mercy; the latter looks like defeat.
With all of that said, if I had been elected President in 2016, I'd have signed his pardon before 1:00 PM January 20th, 2017 and invited him in for a meeting in the oval office where we could have a chat about reforming his wayward ways, and also about rooting out and exposing corruption. (Can you imagine if President Trump had installed MAGA management in all agencies and instructed them (on the sly) to sift through the classified files looking to leak damning information about Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama hires to Wikileaks?)
posts like this are why i love this site. last paragraph. doing the autopsy of what went wrong starts right there.
2 things would work in trump favor:
pardoning assange right off the bat puts assange in a moral quandry of knowing he owes trump.
assange knew trump was innocent on the collusion; it would have resulted in the two having a basis for trusting one another. the fact assange wouldnt give up his source should have inspired trump to try to leverage that honesty into damning leaks destroying mueller, comey, brennan, clapper, obama, biden.
Trumps biggest mistake was the inner circle choice, not fighting to fire more people and not primarying republicans right off the bat.
When a Democrat gets elected, there are Democrats ready and waiting to be appointed to important offices, and there is Democrat legislation ready and waiting for Congress to act on.
When a Republican gets elected, there are Republicans ready and waiting to be appointed to important offices, and there is Republican legislation ready and waiting for Congress to act on.
When President Trump was elected, there were no MAGA people ready and waiting to be appointed to important offices, and there was no MAGA legislation ready and waiting for Congress to act on.
When the next MAGA President is elected, assuming there is ever another election, we have to be ready.
This whole chain rings very true. Trump didn't make a mistake by hiring swampthings. DC is a dark dank underground network of tunnels full of deadly traps and beasts. You need a flashlight to navigate nimbly. But the only flashlights available are given by the creatures themselves and they are programmed to go out at the worst possible moment.
I don’t know. I think he just applied pressure and you know other governments don’t want him out etc. etc. I was following a telegram group and thousands of people called the White House repeatedly, and nothing.
This and the deep state as well. I suspect the real threat wasn't from the senate but from the deep state going JFK on the president. JFK also went against the deep state and paid the price.
If I had to guess - with what JA has on the Dems and others, the moment people think he might be coming in to then be open to testify hes a dead man an hour later.
Seems like he should be secretly exfiltrated well before any pardon. And for that to happen it could cause international issues, so things need to be settled up at home first. (or maybe everything will happen at once who knows).
Bannon knew that Trump had to be tough on his enemies from day 1. But Trump didn't like that and wanted to do things peacefully. I think he underestimated how evil his enemies are and did not expect everyone around him to betray him at the end.
Trump didn't know? He went to the police years ago about Epstein's original case, and worked in the casino business. In his book he had a theiving property manager that he knew it'd be better off to have a thief that could run the joint well, than a person ruin it all due to incompetence.
2024, he will rise again, smarter and more determined... He will crush the shit out of all the deep state commie faggots. He will come back like the Lion we know Trump to be.
Nothing about it was fair. You know it, I know, they know it, they know that we know they know it. At the end of the day, Trump is but one man. Trump did not fail us, rather... we failed Trump. It's tough to hear, but that is the honest to god truth. Too many pedes became complacent. Leftists retarded mindset, unfortunately, had them more laser focused than us. Yes, I get it, we here all have jobs and leftists suck on the tit of the "free" government handouts... But that doesn't excuse our lack of inaction. We must learn to fight just as dirty and force them to want what we have been screaming for, PAPER FUCKING BALLOTS and VOTER I.D. Yes some may get caught doing the cheating, but if it worked for them and we didn't stand up to it, what makes you think they will, until it hits them right back. Until then, we can say buh bye to ever gaining control again.
What have YOU been doing while the man fought this fight alone for 4 years? What more do you expect from him? As it is, he'll never be left alone in peace for the rest of his life and he didn't NEED to do any of this. HE CHOSE TO STAND FOR US.
bro trump will be 80 friggin years old in 2024, we're already stuck with an 80 year old cuck now.. 80 year old's shouldn't generally be president.
I expect Papa Trump to still be in good health in 4 years, but what about towards the end of that term?
Cognitive and physical decline is unavoidable, the only thing certain in life is death.
Yes, I know this is some shit, but as he has always said "The best is yet to come."
I suspect, or at least want to believe in, a last ditch Scorched Earth moment that only Trump would and could pull off... He releases a final round of pardons for Snowden, Assange, Giuliani and himself... and maybe any other high profile person we forgot along the way.
If that doesn't happen, then yeah... hold on to your butt, because shit is gonna hit the fan.
I agree with this although it's hard to say exactly how that would have played out. It might have caused the GOP to Impeach and Remove him early on.
IMHO Trump is the greatest president for at least the last 100 years but he's still only one man. The presidency is a job that you absolutely have to have many other qualified people behind you to succeed at. He tried to make some outside choices early on here and there but you can't get your appointments confirmed unless you go through McConnel. That's just the truth of it.
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Trump and Barron didn't leave on the best of terms. Say what you will about Bannon, but when the shit hit the floor and everyone was stabbing Trump in the back, Bannon was one of the few in the upper ranks who led and actively stood by Trump. That's when you learn who your true friends are.
Its a hard pill to swallow, not because it is somehow difficult, but because of how much it makes sense and having to reconcile what (and who) has been on the side of truth.... Common sense isn't just uncommon, the phrase is an oxymoron and could be considered 'newspeak' today.
Bannon was out there day after day throwing red pill bombs he was on the edge of some sketchy stuff not really his fault and got nailed by the deep state.
Yeah, but the crime he is guilty of is sort of bullshit. The claim is that he defrauded investors by paying someone else a salary that fundraiser off promising not to receive a salary.
I think the investigation and subsequent case was no doubt the fruit of political motivation, but I was disappointed in Bannon and understand why he has acquired the moniker Sloppy Steve.
A man with his enemies has no choice but to operate with untiring adherence to every jot and tittle of the law, like President Trump seems to have endeavored towards.
Bannon was the shoulder demon that led his
purely intentioned, but inexperienced disciple into this quagmire.
He is quoted as making some pretty cringey comments about the nature of the undertaking of such projects and substantial self-enrichment, though this would be a clear 180 from the explicitly outlined code of conduct laid out from the conception of the undertaking.
Seemed to me Bannon was going to get his sizable chunk through services rendered and he felt awkward with his wallet swole and dude man sitting empty handed, so he encouraged him to just change course midstream without due diligence to appropriately inform the people who had entrusted him under proud and explicitly laid out non-profiteering motivation.
When Bannon was on Tucker Carlson, Tucker discreetly chose not to escalate to awkward impass, but he prompted Steve Bannon with the opportunity to deny the allegations against him twice, and Bannon blatantly dodged both times because they are entirely true and a very embarrassing and bad look.
Pardoning Assange was free money on the table. It would have catapulted his "patriot party".
Not pardoning him is a completely idiotic move. Many on here won't realize that because they don't understand that this movement started long before Trump, and the base has always been very close to Assange.
I've been a hardcore Trump supporter, but man this really pisses me off. I have buds that donated to the very same wall fund scam that got Bannon in trouble. Sigh, not like this. Thankfully, our movement is larger than Trump now.
If youre a hardcore Trump supporter then why the fuck are you taking the word of New York deep state corrupt globalist attorney generals who filed the charges??
Do you also believe Biden won the election, that Flynn belongs in prison, and that Trump has to give up hos tax returns because some fag NY attorneys filed charges??
lmao, you do realize that Bannon confessed and people actually got scammed? are you retarded? so you're saying trump pardoned some deep state corrupt globalist attorney's fake convictions? damn bro, you're funny as hell but I can't help but pity your dumbassery.
Nah, the guy that was the face of the Wall Fund (disabled Vet, IIRC) got "compensation" that violated the "non-profit" laws that the group fell under. Some of the other principals (Bannon, et.al.) may have received some reimbursements, but overall, the charges were way overblown, and only filed to smear GEOTUS thru association.
(This is all off the top of my head, and it's late, so I could be wrong)
Not a law. They advertised that money donated to the wall fund wasn't going to compensate the guy. And the way that I read the indictment, the government wasn't even going to try to prove that donated funds got back to him - they were going to try to convince the jury to assume that since the same people were involved, there must have been comingling of funds.
Bannon's involvement in the whole scheme looked incredibly tenuous to me, even if we accept the central premise of the main legal action. Looked like he was included in the case mostly to draw headlines and punish him for supporting Trump.
But after having read Licensed to Lie and a bunch of other books lately, I'd be in favor of a pardon for Bannon based solely on the FBI/DOJ accusation. Without knowing anything else about a person or a case, for any name that I've ever heard before (in any context), if the feds are against them, I'd be willing to bet real money that a pardon is justified.
It's amazing how many here still don't get the FACT that President Trump and all of his ally's have been under attack from day 1 and yet supposed supporters turn on a dime against them and believe the Justice Department and legal system when it's so obvious they are weaponized against us. Page, Papadapulous, Flynn, Stone, Bannon, Trump himself and many more attacked to drive a narrative and yet here we are falling for it and helping them.
Unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud during last year's election.
Motherfuckers, we have thousands of affidavits, audits, and sworn expert testimony. The claims of voter fraud have infinitely more backing them up than most of the bullshit published by this rag.
That is really going to piss Roger Stone off. Perhaps Bannon's work on the election fraud softened Trump's heart about Sloppy Steve and all the treacherous things he did to sabotage him.
It's been known for a while that Bannon and Kushner clashed a lot. This was early into Trump's presidency. Bannon was a fighter and a warrior for MAGA, Kushner only cared about MIGA (Make Israel Great Again).
A lot of people inside the white house (the ones that ended up betraying Trump and giving him poor advice) wanted Bannon out because he wanted to go aggressive on the swamp and establishment. He was an outsider like Trump.
In the end Trump chose family over who was probably the best advisor and strategist he ever had in politics.
Bannon has tried to sabotage Trump multiple times including bringing the sleazy gossip writer Michael Wolfe into the White House so he could and did write a hit piece against Trump. Bannon even let the bastard use his office. It wasn't long after that that Trump fired Bannon and nicked-named him Sloppy Steve.
Bannon then went on to flip-flopping in his court testimony against Trump's long-time friend and ally Roger Stone. Stone ended up wrongfully convicted by the Mueller witch hunt.
Bannon was also one of the principles behind the private wall project that Trump rightfully believed was designed to embarrass him for not securing funds for the wall despite being betrayed by the Republican dominated Congress.
Perhaps Bannon's War Room show was just Bannon's desperate and insincere act to earn a pardon. It seemed to have work. I will still wager Bannon will try to betray Trump again. The former military intelligence agent is a proven untrustworthy snake.
people can be mad at Bannon for the hopium, but he knew the election was stolen, and tried to organize against the steal with calling, and getting info, out, his words ''We need to secure the win'' I know some people will call it false hope, etc. but the guy did all he could to try and reverse this bullshit
didn't he.. take money in an attempt to privately fund the wall without giving any explanation for why that didn't work out—and then never returned what funds he'd raised? why was he pardoned?
The fake news will latch onto this Bannon report, of course, but the majority of President Trump's pardons are the little people who just tried to make a buck off of some weed or something equally harmless: the people Joe Biden's crime bill had tossed into the cabal's dungeon for nothing but optics and pure elitist power.
So we can pardon the shit show of a human who committed fraud against actual patriots trying to help build the wall, but not julian assange or snowden? The fuck is this shit?
This guy was a traitor. He cheated Trump supporters and gave that fag author all the intel he needed for his book. Fuck this backstabbing prick. This is sad.
Bannon stayed loyal to the end. I listen to him everyday on war room for the past few months. Bannon has more spine than these feckless politicians. Im happy GEOTUS has someone like him on his side...
Because those are bullshit charges by the vile and corrupt NY state attorneys who have been working overtime to destroy and bankrupt their political enemies for years.
Good. And well-deserved as Bannon already pardoned Trump.
If Trump had kept Bannon on instead of Jared, things would be much different today.
Jared Kushner ruined a good chunk of things. He was a horrible influence on Trump unfortunately, and it led to some questionable pardons and him to not make certain decisions.
Kushner is a leftist who would fit into the deep state like slipping into a warm bath.
Same with Ivanka, who is likely more liberal than her husband.
I don’t even know why Ivanka went left after how they treated her and tarnished her reputation and brand. Like wtf.
She was always left.
Trump used to be a Dem himself.
He changed. Ivanka did not. Listen to her speeches on climate change.
Climate change is not a Leftist thing.
The suggested responses to it, however, can be.
For instance, if the world stopped recycling paper, and changed from plastic to paper grocery bags, it would dramatically impact carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere.
She fucked herself over then because people hate her now, and her brand and think she’s the white devil spawn. If Ivanka thinks she has a career in politics as a Leftie, good luck cause they don’t want nothing to do with her. Especially when they were lying saying she was stealing money. Never forget the recent footage of her getting heckled at and boo’d. She shot herself in the foot continuing to support them.
She's friends with Chelsea Clinton. What more is there to say?
They haven't been friends for years.
if she publicly turns on her father Ivanka will get a job on any network she chooses
still vote for her over any leftie (that is if voting mattered)
I just wouldn't vote. She's an idiot and her husband is a pos.
I was on mobile when I wrote that comment. You idiotic shill.
Female.
*inb4 based conservative women (all 4 of them)
LOL! Kushner is not a leftist. His father was serving time which is what all that prison reform BS was about. He ended up getting a pardon, too, btw.
Kushner is a pos.
Likely?
Why?
She's always been a leftist. Kushner, not so much.
Jared is a satanist.
Pompeo doesn't want Assange pardoned either. Not everything is Kushner's fault.
What's the argument for not pardoning him?
If a journalist recieves, unsolicited, materials that were obtained illegally by a third party, the 1st Amendment and case law makes it perfectly clear that it is legal to publish them. The ground is a little bit less solid if said journalist cultivates a reputation for publishing leaked materials and actively encourages the public to leak to him, but despite the lack of case law, most scholars agree that said journalist would still be in good shape, legally speaking.
The problem comes up when that journalist works with a specific person and the two of them conspire together to break other laws. This is what the initial indictment of Assange in the US was about. Practicing journalism gets you some leeway, but it isn't blanket permission to disregard other laws that might inconvenience you.
Think what you will about him and his practices, and the motivations of the people going after him, but there isn't much question that the law he allegedly broke is not bullshit - it is a law that we really do want to keep and enforce. And the evidence presented in the indictment, if genuine, makes a pretty clear case.
In the bigger picture, we (as a country) have rivals, and those rivals are staffed up with ruthless stonefaced killers. We are projecting a lot of geopolitical weakness these days, and a strong case could easily be made that allowing a foreigner to play spymaster by turning one of our trusted intelligence officers into a spy against us, without so much as a slap on the wrist, would be yet another weakness that we don't need to project out into the world right now.
Sadly, his physical location in the UK plays against him here. A pardon would look much less weak if he were in US custody on US soil awaiting US justice than it would to pardon him now, while he is still technically a fugitive from justice. The former looks like mercy; the latter looks like defeat.
With all of that said, if I had been elected President in 2016, I'd have signed his pardon before 1:00 PM January 20th, 2017 and invited him in for a meeting in the oval office where we could have a chat about reforming his wayward ways, and also about rooting out and exposing corruption. (Can you imagine if President Trump had installed MAGA management in all agencies and instructed them (on the sly) to sift through the classified files looking to leak damning information about Bush/Clinton/Bush/Obama hires to Wikileaks?)
posts like this are why i love this site. last paragraph. doing the autopsy of what went wrong starts right there.
2 things would work in trump favor:
Trumps biggest mistake was the inner circle choice, not fighting to fire more people and not primarying republicans right off the bat.
When a Democrat gets elected, there are Democrats ready and waiting to be appointed to important offices, and there is Democrat legislation ready and waiting for Congress to act on.
When a Republican gets elected, there are Republicans ready and waiting to be appointed to important offices, and there is Republican legislation ready and waiting for Congress to act on.
When President Trump was elected, there were no MAGA people ready and waiting to be appointed to important offices, and there was no MAGA legislation ready and waiting for Congress to act on.
When the next MAGA President is elected, assuming there is ever another election, we have to be ready.
This whole chain rings very true. Trump didn't make a mistake by hiring swampthings. DC is a dark dank underground network of tunnels full of deadly traps and beasts. You need a flashlight to navigate nimbly. But the only flashlights available are given by the creatures themselves and they are programmed to go out at the worst possible moment.
McConnell said if he pardons Assange then they will vote to confirm on impeachment.
I get that. What's Pompeo's argument?
Pompeo would most likely be protecting Mossad's influence on a lot of things.
I don’t know. I think he just applied pressure and you know other governments don’t want him out etc. etc. I was following a telegram group and thousands of people called the White House repeatedly, and nothing.
lol imagine trusting McConnell.
He will convict either way.
This and the deep state as well. I suspect the real threat wasn't from the senate but from the deep state going JFK on the president. JFK also went against the deep state and paid the price.
If I had to guess - with what JA has on the Dems and others, the moment people think he might be coming in to then be open to testify hes a dead man an hour later.
Seems like he should be secretly exfiltrated well before any pardon. And for that to happen it could cause international issues, so things need to be settled up at home first. (or maybe everything will happen at once who knows).
Absolutely. Jared and Ivankas loyalties are to Israel not USA. On top of that they are democrats.
Trump greatest weakness (and his strength) is his family. I admire that he loves them this deeply, but he is totally blind to their ways.
Isn't he the one trying to keep him(and likely been keeping him) from using alternatives to twitter?
I wonder what could have caused ((Kushner)) to act the way he did?
Bannon knew that Trump had to be tough on his enemies from day 1. But Trump didn't like that and wanted to do things peacefully. I think he underestimated how evil his enemies are and did not expect everyone around him to betray him at the end.
Pretty much this. Trump didn't know how deep the swamp was when he first got in. Now he probably regrets not being tougher against them.
Trump didn't know? He went to the police years ago about Epstein's original case, and worked in the casino business. In his book he had a theiving property manager that he knew it'd be better off to have a thief that could run the joint well, than a person ruin it all due to incompetence.
2024, he will rise again, smarter and more determined... He will crush the shit out of all the deep state commie faggots. He will come back like the Lion we know Trump to be.
LOL "fair elections"
Nothing about it was fair. You know it, I know, they know it, they know that we know they know it. At the end of the day, Trump is but one man. Trump did not fail us, rather... we failed Trump. It's tough to hear, but that is the honest to god truth. Too many pedes became complacent. Leftists retarded mindset, unfortunately, had them more laser focused than us. Yes, I get it, we here all have jobs and leftists suck on the tit of the "free" government handouts... But that doesn't excuse our lack of inaction. We must learn to fight just as dirty and force them to want what we have been screaming for, PAPER FUCKING BALLOTS and VOTER I.D. Yes some may get caught doing the cheating, but if it worked for them and we didn't stand up to it, what makes you think they will, until it hits them right back. Until then, we can say buh bye to ever gaining control again.
That just shows how much you actually don't know. Either way the point is moot. Voting will never be believable again.
What have YOU been doing while the man fought this fight alone for 4 years? What more do you expect from him? As it is, he'll never be left alone in peace for the rest of his life and he didn't NEED to do any of this. HE CHOSE TO STAND FOR US.
We don't have the power to arrest Hillary, the Bidens, Obama etc. That was promised to us.
Asking what YOU did is stupid, we voted for him, that's our role.
He was a good president but all his efforts mean nothing if he doesn’t have the balls to take it all the way.
He had the opportunity to have us all fight for him and he told us to go home and hand the election over to the CCP.
I gave up my equivalent of everything.
I would vote for him again in 2024. Much of this wasn't his fault; he was surrounded by traitors
And who kept hiring the traitors? At some point, the man doing the hiring has to take blame.
And he called us to dc on the 6th, and then cowered like a puppy that just pissed on the floor.
There is no voting in 2024- are you all shills or just stupid af?
bro trump will be 80 friggin years old in 2024, we're already stuck with an 80 year old cuck now.. 80 year old's shouldn't generally be president. I expect Papa Trump to still be in good health in 4 years, but what about towards the end of that term? Cognitive and physical decline is unavoidable, the only thing certain in life is death.
LOL
No man 2024 we may already be living in Great Reset one world government
Fucking Coomer Doomers everywhere.
Yes, I know this is some shit, but as he has always said "The best is yet to come."
I suspect, or at least want to believe in, a last ditch Scorched Earth moment that only Trump would and could pull off... He releases a final round of pardons for Snowden, Assange, Giuliani and himself... and maybe any other high profile person we forgot along the way.
If that doesn't happen, then yeah... hold on to your butt, because shit is gonna hit the fan.
Stop living in fantasy land dude. Wake up we need every Patriot with their eyes open.
Unfortunately one of the top three mistakes he made.
I agree with this although it's hard to say exactly how that would have played out. It might have caused the GOP to Impeach and Remove him early on.
IMHO Trump is the greatest president for at least the last 100 years but he's still only one man. The presidency is a job that you absolutely have to have many other qualified people behind you to succeed at. He tried to make some outside choices early on here and there but you can't get your appointments confirmed unless you go through McConnel. That's just the truth of it.
Then you Seth Rich McConnel, like Hillary did to her opposition.
This right here. For real.
Omg he's done. Why worry about impeachment?
Presidents who are removed from office through the impeachment process are no longer eligible for the pension and benefits provided in the Former Presidents Act which includes:
Trump and Barron didn't leave on the best of terms. Say what you will about Bannon, but when the shit hit the floor and everyone was stabbing Trump in the back, Bannon was one of the few in the upper ranks who led and actively stood by Trump. That's when you learn who your true friends are.
Jared Cuckner is probably the source of all the problems. Also probably why we haven't seen more pardons (like assange/snowden) and declassification.
EVERY
SINGLE
TIME
when will you guys learn
People talk up being red pilled here but the overwhelming majority aren't and will fight being so to the death.
Its a hard pill to swallow, not because it is somehow difficult, but because of how much it makes sense and having to reconcile what (and who) has been on the side of truth.... Common sense isn't just uncommon, the phrase is an oxymoron and could be considered 'newspeak' today.
Fucking Presbyterians
The fuck is wrong with Trump then that he gives that pencil neck any influence over his decisions whatsoever?
Probably?
ok definitely... fuck cuckner
The source of the problems is the man making the decisions.
No better man has been found for the Presidency.
I wouldn't let Jared Kushner advise me on wiping my ass after a taco bell shit.
666 Park Avenue....what a fucking disasterous deal.
THE LIST IS TERRIBLE
Why?
“Take the guns first, due process later”
“Except for Lil Wayne, give his gun back”
Lil Wayne pardon doesn't bother me a tenth as much as Kodak Black. Look up his legal issues on wiki.
For one thing Bannon’s crime is defrauding Trumps own supporters
But thats none of my business
So were all just trusting and taking the side of New York attorneys rather than Bannon and Trump??
What the fuck is going on here?
This thread need a nuking. The line has collapsed.
Bannon was out there day after day throwing red pill bombs he was on the edge of some sketchy stuff not really his fault and got nailed by the deep state.
But Bannon was technically guilty. I hate it, but sure looked that way to me.
Yeah, but the crime he is guilty of is sort of bullshit. The claim is that he defrauded investors by paying someone else a salary that fundraiser off promising not to receive a salary.
I think the investigation and subsequent case was no doubt the fruit of political motivation, but I was disappointed in Bannon and understand why he has acquired the moniker Sloppy Steve. A man with his enemies has no choice but to operate with untiring adherence to every jot and tittle of the law, like President Trump seems to have endeavored towards. Bannon was the shoulder demon that led his purely intentioned, but inexperienced disciple into this quagmire. He is quoted as making some pretty cringey comments about the nature of the undertaking of such projects and substantial self-enrichment, though this would be a clear 180 from the explicitly outlined code of conduct laid out from the conception of the undertaking. Seemed to me Bannon was going to get his sizable chunk through services rendered and he felt awkward with his wallet swole and dude man sitting empty handed, so he encouraged him to just change course midstream without due diligence to appropriately inform the people who had entrusted him under proud and explicitly laid out non-profiteering motivation. When Bannon was on Tucker Carlson, Tucker discreetly chose not to escalate to awkward impass, but he prompted Steve Bannon with the opportunity to deny the allegations against him twice, and Bannon blatantly dodged both times because they are entirely true and a very embarrassing and bad look.
Sloppy Steve + some rappers + some well to do friends of people who hate him (and us), etc. Nobody important at all.
yeah a bunch of bs
No Assange or Snowden. Booo
Pardoning Assange was free money on the table. It would have catapulted his "patriot party". Not pardoning him is a completely idiotic move. Many on here won't realize that because they don't understand that this movement started long before Trump, and the base has always been very close to Assange.
Optics
I've been a hardcore Trump supporter, but man this really pisses me off. I have buds that donated to the very same wall fund scam that got Bannon in trouble. Sigh, not like this. Thankfully, our movement is larger than Trump now.
If youre a hardcore Trump supporter then why the fuck are you taking the word of New York deep state corrupt globalist attorney generals who filed the charges??
Do you also believe Biden won the election, that Flynn belongs in prison, and that Trump has to give up hos tax returns because some fag NY attorneys filed charges??
Is this a fucking joke?
lmao, you do realize that Bannon confessed and people actually got scammed? are you retarded? so you're saying trump pardoned some deep state corrupt globalist attorney's fake convictions? damn bro, you're funny as hell but I can't help but pity your dumbassery.
Bannon was not convicted and disputed all charges
What the fuck are you talking about lol he did not “confess” in any way
Why did your friends give money to anyone to build a wall between two countries when said recipients aren't the government?
Nah, the guy that was the face of the Wall Fund (disabled Vet, IIRC) got "compensation" that violated the "non-profit" laws that the group fell under. Some of the other principals (Bannon, et.al.) may have received some reimbursements, but overall, the charges were way overblown, and only filed to smear GEOTUS thru association.
(This is all off the top of my head, and it's late, so I could be wrong)
Not a law. They advertised that money donated to the wall fund wasn't going to compensate the guy. And the way that I read the indictment, the government wasn't even going to try to prove that donated funds got back to him - they were going to try to convince the jury to assume that since the same people were involved, there must have been comingling of funds.
Bannon's involvement in the whole scheme looked incredibly tenuous to me, even if we accept the central premise of the main legal action. Looked like he was included in the case mostly to draw headlines and punish him for supporting Trump.
But after having read Licensed to Lie and a bunch of other books lately, I'd be in favor of a pardon for Bannon based solely on the FBI/DOJ accusation. Without knowing anything else about a person or a case, for any name that I've ever heard before (in any context), if the feds are against them, I'd be willing to bet real money that a pardon is justified.
IIRC, the main guy received 160-180K total, not a huge sum, relatively speaking.
Didn’t they build some wall?
Just enough to convince people they were legit
Perhaps because Trump also vouched for it?
TBH, I think our site needs a name change.
I don't think that was a scam at all! They built wall and yes it was mostly PR but that was understood to be part of it.
Bannon did nothing wrong, this case was just commies trying to take out our C&C
It's amazing how many here still don't get the FACT that President Trump and all of his ally's have been under attack from day 1 and yet supposed supporters turn on a dime against them and believe the Justice Department and legal system when it's so obvious they are weaponized against us. Page, Papadapulous, Flynn, Stone, Bannon, Trump himself and many more attacked to drive a narrative and yet here we are falling for it and helping them.
But not Assange.
The post just has to put this in there:
Motherfuckers, we have thousands of affidavits, audits, and sworn expert testimony. The claims of voter fraud have infinitely more backing them up than most of the bullshit published by this rag.
They always phrase it like that. It's all they have. They keep think if they repeat it enough it'll become true.
It’s a “Big Lie”
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Oof the list is trash
For defrauding millions of MAGA supporters... Classy.
Why the fuck does everyone here all of a sudden take seriously the bullshit deep state New York attorney charges against Bannon?
Do you think Sidney Powell should be disbarred because a MI state attorney said so?
Should Trump have to give up his tax returns because a NY attorney filed the charges??
Do you people all of a sudden trust the deep state?
They get paid 50 cents per post to shill here.
you idiot. Bannon himself confessed and was convicted. jeezlaweeze, not everything is some deep state hoax.
what? I thought he pled not guilty... when did he confess?
Lmao, he didn’t. Guy above you is just lying
I donated to the wall project and do not feel defrauded at all. Wall was built.
That is really going to piss Roger Stone off. Perhaps Bannon's work on the election fraud softened Trump's heart about Sloppy Steve and all the treacherous things he did to sabotage him.
fill in? how did he sabotage?
He didn't. Jared wanted Bannon out so that was it.
Yup. Even Bannon had said it - that it was never Trump who pushed him out, it was Kushner. Jared was one of Trump's worst mistakes.
It's been known for a while that Bannon and Kushner clashed a lot. This was early into Trump's presidency. Bannon was a fighter and a warrior for MAGA, Kushner only cared about MIGA (Make Israel Great Again).
A lot of people inside the white house (the ones that ended up betraying Trump and giving him poor advice) wanted Bannon out because he wanted to go aggressive on the swamp and establishment. He was an outsider like Trump.
In the end Trump chose family over who was probably the best advisor and strategist he ever had in politics.
Apparently he set up a wall donation fund that ended up being a scam. I'm not sure how true that is.
Wall was after and it wasn't a scam. That's what he's getting pardoned for the SDNY commie shits were charging him for grifting, but that was BS.
SLOPPY STEVE IS OUR FIELD GENERAL!
SLOPPY STEVE DID NOTHING WRONG!
the wall thing came after I believe, i think he was peripherally involved, most likely Three letter agency quality charges.
Bannon has tried to sabotage Trump multiple times including bringing the sleazy gossip writer Michael Wolfe into the White House so he could and did write a hit piece against Trump. Bannon even let the bastard use his office. It wasn't long after that that Trump fired Bannon and nicked-named him Sloppy Steve.
Bannon then went on to flip-flopping in his court testimony against Trump's long-time friend and ally Roger Stone. Stone ended up wrongfully convicted by the Mueller witch hunt.
Bannon was also one of the principles behind the private wall project that Trump rightfully believed was designed to embarrass him for not securing funds for the wall despite being betrayed by the Republican dominated Congress.
Perhaps Bannon's War Room show was just Bannon's desperate and insincere act to earn a pardon. It seemed to have work. I will still wager Bannon will try to betray Trump again. The former military intelligence agent is a proven untrustworthy snake.
The MAGA dream is still alive in Bannon.
Bannon is the new Trump.
Pompeo/Bannon 2024
But he didn't pardon Assange or Snowden. Low energy. Sad!
Good Bannon deserves it... He should have been VP
Archive, my pede. Don't give the post fucking clicks.
https://archive.vn/usM8Y
what if democrats pardon the perps of 2020 vote fraud ?
people can be mad at Bannon for the hopium, but he knew the election was stolen, and tried to organize against the steal with calling, and getting info, out, his words ''We need to secure the win'' I know some people will call it false hope, etc. but the guy did all he could to try and reverse this bullshit
Sloppy steve. Awesome
Disappointed "War Room" isn't stickied. Good info/guests on this show regardless of what people think of Bannon.
This author is a jackass.. pumping out article after article so fast he can't bother to even spellcheck it.
didn't he.. take money in an attempt to privately fund the wall without giving any explanation for why that didn't work out—and then never returned what funds he'd raised? why was he pardoned?
I knew Bannon Trump rift was mostly theater
The fake news will latch onto this Bannon report, of course, but the majority of President Trump's pardons are the little people who just tried to make a buck off of some weed or something equally harmless: the people Joe Biden's crime bill had tossed into the cabal's dungeon for nothing but optics and pure elitist power.
War Room!
So we can pardon the shit show of a human who committed fraud against actual patriots trying to help build the wall, but not julian assange or snowden? The fuck is this shit?
This guy was a traitor. He cheated Trump supporters and gave that fag author all the intel he needed for his book. Fuck this backstabbing prick. This is sad.
The New York Post is trash.
Sloppy Steve!!!
Bannon stayed loyal to the end. I listen to him everyday on war room for the past few months. Bannon has more spine than these feckless politicians. Im happy GEOTUS has someone like him on his side...
kushner sucks a lot of baws, bannon was the chode king.
Smart. Hopefully it means 2024 run.
Fuck this scam artist, he took OUR donations & used them for his private yacht parties.
That would be news to the rest of us. No such accusation is in the indictment.
Because those are bullshit charges by the vile and corrupt NY state attorneys who have been working overtime to destroy and bankrupt their political enemies for years.
Why trust their bullshit charges?
Here is Bannon's indictment. Why Trump would pardon someone who defrauded his own supporters is beyond me. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/press-release/file/1306611/download
Because theyre bullshit charges just like everything else that NY office files.
Then why not pardon Brian Kolfage too?
tRuST dEmOcRatiC pOliTiCaL oPeraTivEs!!!
I'm not read up on this case, but I'd believe theres information about this thats not public. Sure he has his reasons.