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I'm just waiting to see how a nation of "green" electric cars fares after a major hurricane takes out the electricity from an area, should they mandate them down the road.
Rolling in a gasoline tanker and refiling hundreds of cars in a matter of hours is quite different that rolling in a generator, no matter how massive, that takes hours to recharge a single vehicle or group of vehicles.
One thing about dems, they never think a step ahead. They just do what feels “socially responsible” without thinking of any future consequences, like how are they going to generate that electricity to run all these cars. Their answer is solar and wind which does more environmental harm than the power it provides. They are a joke.
They always fail to recognize SCALE and to follow back the supply chain.
They literally think that their smartphones just use a rechargeable battery, failing to consider the power hungry infrastructure and servers that make them possible. Or the mining of the rare earth minerals and other exotica found in them.
Ah yes, the batteries, materials mined in Canada/China, refined in Europe, assembled in Japan/Korea/China, and sold in the United States, and we're supposed to believe this creates a *small *carbon footprint when we buy it.
Buy one gasoline car and one electric car, and you'll have to use them both for at least 5 years before the footprint of the electric car becomes lower than the gasoline car.
At that time the batteries are too old and will need a replacement anyway, while the gasoline car still runs without trouble. Not to mention the slavery and child abuse involved in making the batteries.
I remember the breakeven point being closer to ten years than five, and how much is that battery going to cost, while a new ICE for a daily commuter is still only a couple grand?
I'm firmly of the belief that if we were forced to have a future without gasoline because of actual scarcity, then the answer is hydrogen fuel cells. They still run on an ICE, so you still get that wonderful sound. They're just as dangerous as rare earth batteries in a collision if ruptured, so that's a push. You fuel them pretty much the same way you would a gasoline powered ICE, so you don't artificially create towns to provide labor to an archaic logistical support system. In fact the logistics for it are pretty much already in place, you just need to put another holding tank at current gas stations and as many dedicated pumps as required, just like diesel.
Hydrogen is definitely a good option, theoretically it should be possible to replace the battery package in a electric car and replace it with hydrogen cells, tho the globalists would never allow hydrogen, or a pack of hydrogen cells that actually fit in any already existing electric car.
They don't want us peasants to have access to store-able energy at all.
I've actually managed to get through to one of my coworkers using a similar argument, that you would effectively have a recreation of the rail systems from the turn of the 20th century. Since these cars have a limited range, and such a long recharge time, you'd have to some sort of recharge station, and things to do around them just to kill time. Or to put it simply, the current Cannonball record is 25 hours 39 minutes, with all the required stop time from electric vehicles, how many days will it take to go coast to coast?
Our country is also climatically different. There are reasons why you don't see as many electric cars in Ohio. Heat has to be generated electrically, and this DRASTICALLY shortens range.
I can say there are a few Teslas where I live in NE Ohio, but I've only seen one out once when there was snow on the roads, which means they really only fit the daily commuter aspect, and to virtue signal.
People I know with electric cars tend to have a few kilowatts of solar panels as well, and often they own a gas vehicle, using each for its strengths.
I don't believe in subsidizing or mandating electric vehicles, but I do believe in innovation, and I genuinely think this technology has a place in our economy -- though of course it needs to demonstrate that and hold its own in the market place.
There are more substitutes for fuel to generate grid power than there are substitutes for liquid fuel. The gradual increase in oil prices over time will make coal/nuclear/gas attractive by comparison.
Screw that. Someone's willing to do that for $10 an hour and I have better uses for my time.
Also, I'd have to find pants. They are getting harder and harder to locate in my closet since this pandemic started. Are we on an odd numbered month again? Might be time to do laundry.
Compare to most of northern Europe which is Bidens inspiration source and the current price is €1.6/liter, they want to make it at least €3/liter in just a few years. 1 US gallon is 3.7854 liter so €11.3 per gallon, that's $13.74 per gallon, most of that is tax, money that will be used for more oppression because dems don't give a fuck about the "environment".
Oh, and 25% of that will be water so you have to refuel more often, and will more often experience engine trouble.
I'm just waiting to see how a nation of "green" electric cars fares after a major hurricane takes out the electricity from an area, should they mandate them down the road.
Rolling in a gasoline tanker and refiling hundreds of cars in a matter of hours is quite different that rolling in a generator, no matter how massive, that takes hours to recharge a single vehicle or group of vehicles.
That should be interesting........
One thing about dems, they never think a step ahead. They just do what feels “socially responsible” without thinking of any future consequences, like how are they going to generate that electricity to run all these cars. Their answer is solar and wind which does more environmental harm than the power it provides. They are a joke.
They always fail to recognize SCALE and to follow back the supply chain.
They literally think that their smartphones just use a rechargeable battery, failing to consider the power hungry infrastructure and servers that make them possible. Or the mining of the rare earth minerals and other exotica found in them.
Ah yes, the batteries, materials mined in Canada/China, refined in Europe, assembled in Japan/Korea/China, and sold in the United States, and we're supposed to believe this creates a *small *carbon footprint when we buy it.
Don't leave out the cobalt mined by children in the Congo.......
Honestly, this is the biggest racket ever run on humanity.
Buy one gasoline car and one electric car, and you'll have to use them both for at least 5 years before the footprint of the electric car becomes lower than the gasoline car.
At that time the batteries are too old and will need a replacement anyway, while the gasoline car still runs without trouble. Not to mention the slavery and child abuse involved in making the batteries.
I remember the breakeven point being closer to ten years than five, and how much is that battery going to cost, while a new ICE for a daily commuter is still only a couple grand?
I'm firmly of the belief that if we were forced to have a future without gasoline because of actual scarcity, then the answer is hydrogen fuel cells. They still run on an ICE, so you still get that wonderful sound. They're just as dangerous as rare earth batteries in a collision if ruptured, so that's a push. You fuel them pretty much the same way you would a gasoline powered ICE, so you don't artificially create towns to provide labor to an archaic logistical support system. In fact the logistics for it are pretty much already in place, you just need to put another holding tank at current gas stations and as many dedicated pumps as required, just like diesel.
Hydrogen is definitely a good option, theoretically it should be possible to replace the battery package in a electric car and replace it with hydrogen cells, tho the globalists would never allow hydrogen, or a pack of hydrogen cells that actually fit in any already existing electric car.
They don't want us peasants to have access to store-able energy at all.
I've actually managed to get through to one of my coworkers using a similar argument, that you would effectively have a recreation of the rail systems from the turn of the 20th century. Since these cars have a limited range, and such a long recharge time, you'd have to some sort of recharge station, and things to do around them just to kill time. Or to put it simply, the current Cannonball record is 25 hours 39 minutes, with all the required stop time from electric vehicles, how many days will it take to go coast to coast?
Our country is also climatically different. There are reasons why you don't see as many electric cars in Ohio. Heat has to be generated electrically, and this DRASTICALLY shortens range.
I can say there are a few Teslas where I live in NE Ohio, but I've only seen one out once when there was snow on the roads, which means they really only fit the daily commuter aspect, and to virtue signal.
Same here where I live in Ohio. Once in a while during the summer, but rarely in the winter will I see one.
As a fellow Buckeye, don't you just love our gutless wonder of Governor......
I'm pretty sure the state house started impeachment on him months ago, but I haven't heard anything since, and I can't wait for it to happen.
People I know with electric cars tend to have a few kilowatts of solar panels as well, and often they own a gas vehicle, using each for its strengths.
I don't believe in subsidizing or mandating electric vehicles, but I do believe in innovation, and I genuinely think this technology has a place in our economy -- though of course it needs to demonstrate that and hold its own in the market place.
There are more substitutes for fuel to generate grid power than there are substitutes for liquid fuel. The gradual increase in oil prices over time will make coal/nuclear/gas attractive by comparison.
The price of gas is already rising. People who voted for Biden are fools.
Why is gas rising?
Because Biden will cut off the pipelines and coal. It’s all speculation and speculators speculate.
That, and soon because of taxes. In a few years taxes will be so high that you won't even notice changes in oil prices.
war is coming once again, gas is always sky high under warmongers and dems
Because the futures markets are betting on a slowdown of drilling and refining.
Or when the $15/hr minimum wage is passed.
Good luck to them, then the cost of everything else goes up. And their higher wages won’t mean shit. Just more inflation.
I’ve never understood the delivery crap. If McDonald’s is right next door, get up off your lazy ass and get your bullshit yourself.
Screw that. Someone's willing to do that for $10 an hour and I have better uses for my time.
Also, I'd have to find pants. They are getting harder and harder to locate in my closet since this pandemic started. Are we on an odd numbered month again? Might be time to do laundry.
$5... Make it at least $13 in just a few years.
Compare to most of northern Europe which is Bidens inspiration source and the current price is €1.6/liter, they want to make it at least €3/liter in just a few years. 1 US gallon is 3.7854 liter so €11.3 per gallon, that's $13.74 per gallon, most of that is tax, money that will be used for more oppression because dems don't give a fuck about the "environment".
Oh, and 25% of that will be water so you have to refuel more often, and will more often experience engine trouble.
LOL That's how you piss off liberals! LOL
Yeah but muh $15/hr minimum wage...
A good reason to replace low wage workers with robots.
It will be just like Canada with all these ridiculous prices.
I take it, you have never lived in Bay Area or Hawaii