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networkingkyle -4 points ago +7 / -11

If it’s over for him then I will never vote for him going forward. Third party only for me. Fuck the Republican Party. I am also not going to be told and showed all the fraud and then nothing be done about it. This is going to head to infringements on our gun rights. I will not support Trump, the Republican Party, or the democrat party. America first candidates only. If Trump turns out to be a giant LARP and liar then he will get no support from me.

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CEO_of_Muslims 13 points ago +14 / -1

Your animus towards Trump is misdirected. He did amazing things as a solo outsider with no support from within the cathedral. The fact that he wasn’t re-elected and spoke out against the fraud means that he wasn’t a LARP and he wasn’t co-opted by the permanent state.

To your specific concern about fraud, he and his people brought it into public view when it’s likely been going on for decades. You’re welcome.

And by the same token, now that you know about the massive fraud, you should make the connection that “voting” third party doesn’t change outcomes. They’re kept at, for example, 2% of the total and the rest of those votes are adjudicated to whomever is the cathedral choice.

Trump has drained the swamp and it’s up to you and me to decide what to do with the exposed swamp creatures. I choose to focus on primaries, local elections and local institutions, and vote counting (not poll watching). I hope you have a similar plan but anything is better than dooming.

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QSWO1 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed. He was elected though.

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CEO_of_Muslims 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yes, he broke in because the insider polling they relied on did not project the magnitude of his support in 2016. If he was co-opted then he would have silently allowed the steal or he would have won 2020.