posted ago by MaddieEsquire ago by MaddieEsquire +6 / -0

A lot of people are saying this. A LOT. I want to play devil's advocate. ...No, I'm just going to come out and say I think it's not a good idea. But I'm open to reason.

And I know some will say this is a pointless conversation, because elections don't matter... That's relative. Trump still won FL and OH, for instance. He won overall in 2016. I'm not giving up because a few counties nationwide were corrupted enough this time. On to the issue at hand:

Thinking purely about getting results, and what is the most effective way to achieve those results-- AOC & crew didn't start a socialist party. They galvanized enough people and won their little elections, and they're well on their way to taking over the Democrat Party. Likewise, Trump himself knew it was the only way when he ran in 2015. He wasn't chosen by the GOP establishment... He won by the strength of our support, not theirs.

In my opinion, party label means practically nothing. It's people who betrayed us, not the elephant. Going 3rd party just guarantees we lose. We can't assume all 74 million Trump votes will abandon the GOP. The fact is that most Trump supporters are not online all day informing themselves about the daily ins and outs of politics like we are. A lot of them voted for him in both elections as the lesser of two evils, or purely because he had an R by his name. I'm sure you personally know a lot of these people in real life.

We need to do better in the primary season. People are half asleep during primaries and local races, but now we want to complain about the party? Good people need to run GOP and we need to do our best to help them. That's it. I believe in terms of actually getting results in the future, the worst thing we can do is splinter the MAGA movement. Look how the Libertarian party has been taken over by idiots. Calling a candidate a Patriot means nothing.

Like I said, this is just my line of thinking as far as strategy goes, and I'm open to persuasion as far as what will actually work. It just shouldn't be an emotional reason based on how angry we are at McConnell.

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ciemPepe 4 points ago +4 / -0

The president of Mexico did it, that's how he won the presidential elections after having 2 elections stolen with his old established party. If AMLO did it, why not Trump:

  1. Trump is vastly more popular with americans than AMLO is with mexicans.

  2. Trump has more resources than AMLO

  3. Trump has bigger balls than AMLO

  4. Trump has more loyal people that would be willing to help with that than AMLO had.

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  1. Trump is smarter than AMLO

I think right now you have the momentum to establish a powerful new party, you have the righteous anger of millions against the establishment, AMLO had that momentum, people sick of the same bullshit of the establishment, AMLO bombarded mexico with ads exposing the corruption earning more supporters. Right now Trump has your full attention to his next move, I think this is the perfect time to create a new party.

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MaddieEsquire [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

That's a good point & a fair comparison, and I agree that the time is now, if ever.