READ POST B4 RESPONDING - I'M GROWING WEARY OF KNEE JERK DOOMERISM WHEN WE NEED A GAME PLAN.
And I am as furious about this as anyone on this board or any other. However I think with my mind, not my emotion. There are only 2 groups, the swamp and the people. The swamp is split into 2 parties. You will never unify the people into 1 additional party because between 15 - 30% of those believe in a fairy tale - that socialism improves anything.
In every vote modern times, you have almost the 1/3 - 1/3 - 1/3 rule. Gonna vote Dem no matter what, gonna vote Republican no matter what, flip flopping around.
This is the reason dummies like Karl Rove have jobs, because they think they are so smart, simply because they are telling you to appeal to the flip floppers - many of who are those suburban women we always hear about.
The reason that is, and always has been stupid is because Trump by being honest, tough and a man of his word, took 1/3 of the flip floppers. But 2/3's still went to (first) Hillary and then Biden. So how did he win (twice - HUUUGGGE, they cheated in 2016 just as bad) if Dems got 2/3's of the flip floppers.
He won because he GUARANTEED that people like me, who would rather piss at a forty five degree incline into a hurricane than vote for a Mittens or a McCain (swamp creatures) - he guaranteed that I would walk for 5 days in bare feet over broken glass just to stand in line for 7 hours to vote for him. He was for my brothers and sisters - Americans - for REAL.
Now, let's look at an election where 120 million votes are cast, and throw a 3rd party into that mix. You might bring half of that Republican third to your side - 20 million but that is optimistic, wishful thinking. You might get an extra 30 mil off the sofa, the people like me, but that's a reach. And here is what your election will Look like - Dems take their third - 40 mil, they take 2/3rds of the flip flop - 26,4000 = 66,400. Reps take their stupid 20 Mil. And you take your 20 mil (high end estimate) + your 1/3 of flip flops 13.2 mil (if your lucky) and get 30 mil people that usually don't vote (that number is a dream, but I am throwing it out to give all the benefit to this I can) and the result is :
WE LOSE EVERY TIME 66.4 Dems to 63.2 Patriots to 20 mil Republicans. And you know that is the best case scenario.
NOW HOW ABOUT INSTEAD OF BEING LOSERS YOUR WHOLE LIVES, WE LEARN TO BE WINNERS.
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Do not give money to the RNC any more. We have to pressure our people to set up to take direct donations. We must establish a PAC instead of a 3rd party - that way we can campaign for our candidates, and we can get the dummies at the RNC to do it as well.
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When your choice is a giant douche or a turd sandwich, let the democrat take the blame for the damage caused by their stupid policies. DO NOT VOTE FOR RHINO's even if the democrat will win. By voting rhino, the dems win anyway.
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Hold any candidate that want's our support 100% responsible, NO EXCUSES EVER.
If we do this, we will win elections at every level. We will be the Republican party. If we can't win in a republican primary, we can 't win period. You won't feel better, you won't be better, and everything that has been achieved in the last 4 years will be flushed.
Nope. No votes for Republicans besides those who voted against certifying that fraud Election.
Agreed.
Trump creates a third party and runs. What says you then?
He won't, he's smarter than that. But in the hypothetical, yes. We'll lose, but yes.
We’ll lose? Oh, we wouldn’t want that to happen now would we.
We won in 16. That won't happen again.
And, this isn't really about national elections. Trump was defeated at the state level. You will have states who will work to disadvantage your 3rd even more than now. The two parties will work together and make you irrelevant even though you will be working non stop.
When the communists plotted to take over our country, did they start a 3rd communist party, or did they take over one of the two existing parties? The democrat party is not what it was 25 years ago. They took it over, because they're smart, not emotional.
We go year after year with no representation in the party because we don't work from the ground floor - and we expect a DJT to come in a President for 4 years and change everything - that's a pipe dream and always will be.
We need a PAC, and we need to withhold support and money from any candidate that we do not approve of. When that PAC is the single largest piece of winning, and we don't waiver from the position that we are not voting for you're rino, we will control the party, all the way down to the grassroots in every precinct in the country.
Your 3rd party will never see that happen. Especially under current conditions.
that's the only way I can stay in the game. But if he does I will work 24 hours a day
Voting doesn't count anymore.
Just keep voting for mitch. Mitt. Mccain, lindsay, AND 93 to 6 votes against the republic!.
Mg family will not only not vote gop, we will donate till it hurts and campaign to STOP THEM.
Mitch called us domestic terrorists and unamerican????
Supporting them is mad!
We don't support them. We use them. I wouldn't vote for any of those guys, but 3rd party is death.
The rules have changed. They will never give back the power the mail-in ballot has given them.
surely the GOP will embrace us this time!
Nope, and we're not asking them to. We're TELLING them these are the terms, take it or we sit out. Believe me, you'll see quickly how much they need us. We just need to be organized.