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Magacraft 4 points ago +4 / -0

It's called demoralization. They buy all our leadership from small things like teacher associations all the way up to government officials and lobby them to indoctrinate our children and citizens with destructive and degenerative ideas. It's a weaponized indoctrination meant to destabalize our culture and ruin us.

Think of it like a bio weapon but for people's minds. They don't do it on themselves because it's a weapon they use on others.

The feminization of men, the destruction of the nuclear family, abortions, fetishizing racism towards blacks, complete pro-immigration, are all examples of destructive training they do to us.

The CCP has a modern warfare system called "Strangle them with their own Systems" which implies that they exploit "Freedom" to destroy us. Basically they use lobbying and democracy to destroy us without and violence whatsoever. They just partake in all our systems as a bad faith actor.

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LFCIRE96 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

I get all this, but every time society degenerates we blame it on communism, when if we actually look at China, they’re nowhere near as degenerate as us

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Magacraft 1 point ago +1 / -0

I would say blaming degeneracy on communism is misguided. Communism winds up being very strict, uniform and clean cut in the end on the outside and extreme poverty and suffering on the inside. Degeneracy I'd attribute entirely to decadence or the demoralization process.

There is one misnomer going on and it's calling China communist. It's actually much similar to the fascism of Nazi Germany because it has on it's surface a hybrid free-market. The communist element would be the government ultimately having the final say and control of all businesses. It isn't a pure communism like we saw in Russia but instead much more of totalitarian fascism. For accuracy purposes I would look at modern China as close in structure, government and sentiment to nazi Germany.

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LFCIRE96 [S] 2 points ago +2 / -0

How do you personally differentiate fascism with communism? I always thought of fascism as kind of economically centre but socially far right. Now I’m realizing that communism is far left economically, but socially... is it even? In practice it has always been extremely conservative socially. It’s a difficult one to wrap the head around.

And what exactly do you mean by the ‘demoralization process’?

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Magacraft 1 point ago +1 / -0

It becomes muddy and you'd need someone more of a historian than me. I'd say Fascism is more flexible and can encompass a number of systems. For example a utopian ideal of communism would not be fascist at all, albeit unachievable. Fascism would be any system that feels like a dictator, that silences opposition forcibly and controls the economy and people's lives. Communism is a bit more of a romanticized idea of not having private property and sharing all resources, it just winds up not working well at all with human nature and getting dominated by dictators naturally.

I'm not sure socially, the community is sort of governing your lives on a property level but also could dictate your time in how you spend it working or what kind of job you do. I would say it is left on all fronts. It would be more not as oppressive if you had like 10 hippies on a commune all just voting what to do with things but no one actually owns anything but when you apply it coldly to a society it becomes much more oppresive.

It is hard to wrap around the fine points between them and ultimately the names are broad as any of these different nations discussed would have more detailed and specific laws that are each on the spectrum of more or less government interference or freedom.

China right now would feel similar to the US in terms of our consumer lives so it is capitalistic in a hybrid sense. The government however has last say in everything and can control any business they want, they can shut down opposition, disapear and silence people etc. and deploy the social credit score and deperson people with it.

Demoralization process would be what i described in my first post. Strategic manipulation of a society to promote bad and destructive ideas to make the society collapse from within.

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PorcupineKing 3 points ago +3 / -0

That's because it's led and controlled by fear.

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Desktop 2 points ago +2 / -0

Trying to destroy the west. that's about it.

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JoinTheDiscussion 2 points ago +2 / -0

Based how?

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Those_Who_Wander 1 point ago +1 / -0

Are you implying that trampling the rights of the individual and genocide is based actions? I'd have to disagree strongly. Most authoritarian regimes are anti-homo because they focus on population increase.

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LFCIRE96 [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0
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Trumpdidit 1 point ago +1 / -0

China's leaders wil be here soon to show us what we are doing wrong.

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Dystopiaslayer 0 points ago +2 / -2

nice one there, 50 cent troll. slaughtering millions of muslim uighurs, HKers, christians, and buddhists is 'discipline', right?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/50_Cent_Party