Again, (1) if Trump forms a third party, will you support and vote for a Trump-party candidate over a member representing the GOP?
(2) You've said, several times in fact, that 90-95% of the Republican party fully supports DJT and MAGA (unless you're conflating those stats by including registered constituents, which makes for a garbage statistic and in that case you need not answer), please provide me the names of the 90% or 95% of legislators in any single body (US House, US Senate, a State House or State Senate) that are party-line MAGA representatives so that we may test your claims.
I really don't mean to be wordy or run-on long, so please do forgive my length and high energy. I think it's important to try to explain and redpills sometimes take awhile to properly dispense.
1A.) In my area, all MAGA that would run for office are Republicans (with the vast majority, lifetime republicans.) There are a few non-MAGA republicans which over-represent in the "elected officials", these are mostly the Mittens-types; these control the local party apparatus until now, because they control the majority of fundraising (aka big money. From Private equity, banking, Wall St, back-room deals, gov contracts, land developers, corporate boardroom-types; read like most places; money from outside the jurisidiction funds these non-MAGA types into office and keeps them in office.)
1B.) So third party or not, your question is basically just like the Primary process where a MAGA republican and a Mittens RINO republican face off; and I vote the MAGA Republican. But no matter who wins this primary; I'll be voting for the Republican bc the Dems have evil commie marxist El Che Castro Mao Stalin Kultural Enricher candidate.
1C.) The only difference is with a 3rd party; then it's like removing the party primary process; and in the general election it's MAGA vs Mittens vs Commie; and this means the Commie wins bc the Maga and Mittens votes cause not just vote splitting; but the Dems smell blood in the water, and pour more resources (and cheating) in for the steal. Especially if this is for a contest that will then decide things like redistricting etc.
1D.) This is why, all the 3rd party Maga lion patriot etc stuff is functionally the SAME thing as primarying RINOs and Swamp creatures to remove them. But doing a "real" third party will result in Dems winning all over places which Republicans control right now (aka places Dems and commies don't control right now). So even if the time/money/etc wasn't an issue; the fact is a 'real' 3rd party would cause Dems to win a whole lot; this is how it works, lots of election history, data, and real experience proves it over and over.
2.) This is how you know if someone is really involved in the Republican Party or not. Or if their experiences are more from Democratic Party politics.
Democrats do things like "Super-Delegates" (which Bill Clinton added in; but in a way was still HOW they did it just more informally beforehand). Superdelegates mean that those "high ranking current and former elected officials of the party" control The Dem Party as an organization. The same way Nancy completely controls the House (unconstitutionally); or LBJ's rules of Senate Majority Leader which are still in effect today, that let Mitch (unconstituionally) run the Senate like a 1 man show.
"The Republican Party" is the constituents. It's the opposite of how the Dems run their party. Being a Republican elected official, means you get to think for yourself, "The Party" isn't telling you to be a rubber stamp or "ceremonial role" for their central-planned agenda. Yes, there were times when some Republican operations ran this way (think Bush years) but overall in the history of the party; there isn't the same "lockstep" centralized command and control like the Commies have.
This is why asking for a "that are party-line MAGA roll call list" is a leftie purity command and control way of looking at it. This is like guilty until proven innocent or collective punishment concepts; and The Republican Party doesn't operate this way. If officials did/wanted to, they'd just join the Dems instead, and receive their marching orders from above. Similar to how commie military troops have much stricter (and top down) command and control, and Americans tend to have more individualized CnC where individual (bottom/front line) leaders make the decisions within a broader framework/objectives.
So when people like me that have been in and around The Republican Party for a long time; say "The Party" or "the GOP" we are speaking of all us Americans in the Party. When Lefties/marxist media talk about "The GOP" they mostly mean the "sunday tv show guest list" of leadership RINOs/swampcreatures/deepstaters in DC, that hold "power" on comittees/chairs "leadership" roles (and occassionally the POTUS (eg Bush 1 or 2) or RNC chair too eg M. Steele/Romeny; or someone like Karl Rove who wielded power when he was doing his thing.)
So to those NOT involved with the Party itself, particularly if they are recoving democrats or have injested bluepills from the media; they tend to label the GOP and The Party as the equivalent to DC power wielders.
That's a lot of text to dodge 2 very simple questions (one of them simply asking you to validate a statistic that you fabricated). Perhaps you’re a Republican before you're a Trump supporter. That's fine, but you're not dispensing red pills, you're just shilling for the GOP and need volumes of text to dance around and avoid admitting that. Again, that's fine if that's your party, but the GOP != MAGA. We have nothing left to discuss here. If you have to build out a multi-level argument to avoid a yes or no question, or try to impugn someone by suggesting that asking for proof of a mathematical claim that you provided somehow aligns that person with the left, you're clearly not arguing from a an open and transparent position with any integrity.
My "claim" is that 90+% of the Republican Party supports DJT and is MAGA. This is true, because the Republican Party is NOT as the Democratic Party is with top-down command and control (eg daily DNC talking points).
In the Dem Party, the top power-brokers in DC control the Party, and the Party basically controls nearly all it's elected officials (even down to the mayor and city council level).
In the Republican Party, the Americans in the Republican Party control the Party, and the Party doesn't control it's officials.
Again, (1) if Trump forms a third party, will you support and vote for a Trump-party candidate over a member representing the GOP?
(2) You've said, several times in fact, that 90-95% of the Republican party fully supports DJT and MAGA (unless you're conflating those stats by including registered constituents, which makes for a garbage statistic and in that case you need not answer), please provide me the names of the 90% or 95% of legislators in any single body (US House, US Senate, a State House or State Senate) that are party-line MAGA representatives so that we may test your claims.
I really don't mean to be wordy or run-on long, so please do forgive my length and high energy. I think it's important to try to explain and redpills sometimes take awhile to properly dispense.
1A.) In my area, all MAGA that would run for office are Republicans (with the vast majority, lifetime republicans.) There are a few non-MAGA republicans which over-represent in the "elected officials", these are mostly the Mittens-types; these control the local party apparatus until now, because they control the majority of fundraising (aka big money. From Private equity, banking, Wall St, back-room deals, gov contracts, land developers, corporate boardroom-types; read like most places; money from outside the jurisidiction funds these non-MAGA types into office and keeps them in office.)
1B.) So third party or not, your question is basically just like the Primary process where a MAGA republican and a Mittens RINO republican face off; and I vote the MAGA Republican. But no matter who wins this primary; I'll be voting for the Republican bc the Dems have evil commie marxist El Che Castro Mao Stalin Kultural Enricher candidate.
1C.) The only difference is with a 3rd party; then it's like removing the party primary process; and in the general election it's MAGA vs Mittens vs Commie; and this means the Commie wins bc the Maga and Mittens votes cause not just vote splitting; but the Dems smell blood in the water, and pour more resources (and cheating) in for the steal. Especially if this is for a contest that will then decide things like redistricting etc.
1D.) This is why, all the 3rd party Maga lion patriot etc stuff is functionally the SAME thing as primarying RINOs and Swamp creatures to remove them. But doing a "real" third party will result in Dems winning all over places which Republicans control right now (aka places Dems and commies don't control right now). So even if the time/money/etc wasn't an issue; the fact is a 'real' 3rd party would cause Dems to win a whole lot; this is how it works, lots of election history, data, and real experience proves it over and over.
2.) This is how you know if someone is really involved in the Republican Party or not. Or if their experiences are more from Democratic Party politics.
Democrats do things like "Super-Delegates" (which Bill Clinton added in; but in a way was still HOW they did it just more informally beforehand). Superdelegates mean that those "high ranking current and former elected officials of the party" control The Dem Party as an organization. The same way Nancy completely controls the House (unconstitutionally); or LBJ's rules of Senate Majority Leader which are still in effect today, that let Mitch (unconstituionally) run the Senate like a 1 man show.
"The Republican Party" is the constituents. It's the opposite of how the Dems run their party. Being a Republican elected official, means you get to think for yourself, "The Party" isn't telling you to be a rubber stamp or "ceremonial role" for their central-planned agenda. Yes, there were times when some Republican operations ran this way (think Bush years) but overall in the history of the party; there isn't the same "lockstep" centralized command and control like the Commies have.
This is why asking for a "that are party-line MAGA roll call list" is a leftie purity command and control way of looking at it. This is like guilty until proven innocent or collective punishment concepts; and The Republican Party doesn't operate this way. If officials did/wanted to, they'd just join the Dems instead, and receive their marching orders from above. Similar to how commie military troops have much stricter (and top down) command and control, and Americans tend to have more individualized CnC where individual (bottom/front line) leaders make the decisions within a broader framework/objectives.
So when people like me that have been in and around The Republican Party for a long time; say "The Party" or "the GOP" we are speaking of all us Americans in the Party. When Lefties/marxist media talk about "The GOP" they mostly mean the "sunday tv show guest list" of leadership RINOs/swampcreatures/deepstaters in DC, that hold "power" on comittees/chairs "leadership" roles (and occassionally the POTUS (eg Bush 1 or 2) or RNC chair too eg M. Steele/Romeny; or someone like Karl Rove who wielded power when he was doing his thing.)
So to those NOT involved with the Party itself, particularly if they are recoving democrats or have injested bluepills from the media; they tend to label the GOP and The Party as the equivalent to DC power wielders.
That's a lot of text to dodge 2 very simple questions (one of them simply asking you to validate a statistic that you fabricated). Perhaps you’re a Republican before you're a Trump supporter. That's fine, but you're not dispensing red pills, you're just shilling for the GOP and need volumes of text to dance around and avoid admitting that. Again, that's fine if that's your party, but the GOP != MAGA. We have nothing left to discuss here. If you have to build out a multi-level argument to avoid a yes or no question, or try to impugn someone by suggesting that asking for proof of a mathematical claim that you provided somehow aligns that person with the left, you're clearly not arguing from a an open and transparent position with any integrity.
My "claim" is that 90+% of the Republican Party supports DJT and is MAGA. This is true, because the Republican Party is NOT as the Democratic Party is with top-down command and control (eg daily DNC talking points).
In the Dem Party, the top power-brokers in DC control the Party, and the Party basically controls nearly all it's elected officials (even down to the mayor and city council level).
In the Republican Party, the Americans in the Republican Party control the Party, and the Party doesn't control it's officials.