So many people now saying "we'll take back the House and Senate with the Patriot party in 2022 and then re-elect Trump in 2024"
Did people forget that they just openly and blatantly stole TWO elections from us in the same way. And we didn't do shit about it.
What makes people think that they are just going to let us vote ourselves back in power? Incredibly powerful people and the deep state just removed Trump via a coup. They control the ballot box and the courts. They are not simply just going to let us vote ourselves back in power.
We first need a plan to either rebuild and fix the entire system if we want voting to work again.
Denial on how bad the situation really is.
It worries me that so many don't realize how serious this shit is. They seem to think its just politics as usual. The game has changed. We have an illegal regime, they usurped the elections, they are usurping the Constitution, they are purging the military of non-loyalists to the regime, they are weaponizing every part of the government to stomp us out like all the dictator regimes of the past, etc.
This isn't just going to be like Obama. People need to wake up.
Not only were people posting that stuff, but the mods stickied it, and about 7000 people upvoted. 🤦🏻♂️ That had me ready to leave this site. Do they realize what the hell we’ve been talking about for 4 years, and especially the last couple months, and what got us exactly where we are right now?
Its like people have gold fish memories and suddenly forget all about the fraud and blatant steal that happened. That should anger and stay with people. They even did it again in the Georgia runoff.
It really bothers me that our side is not realizing the real scope of what is going on here. If we just waste our time trying the same thing again, we are going to lose and waste valuable time while America is destroyed.
I've been warning people repeatedly before about all the LARPs, "trust the plans", etc. But its like no one wants to listen.
"If we just waste our time trying the same thing again, we are going to lose"
I believe that's the definition of insanity no?
"The definition of insanity, is, doing the exact same fucking thing over and over again, expecting shit to change." -https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Insanity
Yea, because I care about the opinion of some asshole on the internet who clearly doesn't know how to read, bad mouthing someone he most likely has never met and knows nothing about.. fuck off with your bullshit. welcome to the blocked list
maybe enough will wake up by the time a new election happens. Biden will fuck up the US in favor of the globalists and people may notice that.
Trump won in a landslide, even bigger than 2016. Just having more people vote for our side won't let us win. They'll do the same thing.....stop the count....and find just enough ballots at 4AM to defeat us, and then refuse to do an audit and call us "dangerous to Democracy" for even asking.
We need to completely tear down and rebuild the corrupt system to ever make voting work again.
some people learn from their mistakes. maybe next time there is a cheat happening people will bring their guns to the capital instead of a meaningless peaceful protest
or not. i dont expect much these days
Again, are you completely oblivious to what is going on? They are not playing the slow game anymore. They are not playing "pretend".
This is not just politics as usual. Its not like Trump just legitimately lost and we can just try again.
Trump won in a landslide. Even bigger than 2016. And they used mail-in ballots to stop the count as soon as he was about to win, and then coordinate between swing states to "keep finding ballots" just enough to beat Trump.
Then they did the same exact thing in the Georgia runoff.
When we had thousands of pieces of evidence, the state courts, SCOTUS, DOJ, and FBI all turned their backs. They've completely purged and censored a President, they purged and censored thousands of conservative voices. Corporations are doing the bidding to shut down his bank accounts, restrict Trump supporters from travel, fire people from their jobs for going to a rally in DC. Biden labeled us "political terrorists" and said we must be defeated. He's weaponizing the military and intelligence agencies to do exactly this. They are purging the military for "wrongthink" or people with conservative values.
When has this happened previously in US history?
You claim I'm being dramatic and just making this stuff up like the left was with Trump. No, this is actual dictator-level stuff. I've lived in Venezuela and I've seen the same exact thing happen there.
I'm not saying all hope is lost. I'm just trying to wake people up to realize the socpe of what is going on. Yet you seem to think simply forming a new party and then voting again in 2022 and 2024 is the solution.
The legal team was definitely subpar. Barnes, who was helping out early on with the legal stuff, said it was a complete mess. Trump's mistake was never preparing for this in advance even when he was tweeting several months before the election that they were going to steal it with mail-in ballots and fraud. We were left scrambling and only managed to put together a team of subpar lawyers with zero election law experience. I like Rudy, but he hasn't been in court since the early 90s. That was evident when he didn't even know certain legal terms when presenting in court.
We should have had an army of top-notch election lawyers setup months in advance. We should have been prepared for this. Biden had an army of 600 lawyers prepared.
If we had a plan in place to prepare for the steal, I think it could have been prevented.
Unfortunately, armed insurrection is what our Founders conveyed. Its the very reason they gave us the 2nd amendment. They predicted a day when the government would become so corrupt and tyrannical like it is now. But I'm not condoning that, nor is that ever going to happen. People are simply too comfortable and stuff like that tends to only happen when people have lost everything and have nothing left. Revolts and insurrections tend to only happen after people have lost their jobs, their rights, their homes, and struggle to even feed themselves.
Its a really tough spot we are in and I wish I had an easy answer. But I think that simply trying to vote ourselves in is not going to be impactful on any large scale. It will work in local and smaller elections. But I just don't see it as a feasible method to bring down the deep state and ultimately save the Republic. And even if we could somehow slowly take over Congress, something like that may take decades. And by then the Republic will be totally destroyed by then that we will be set back 50+ years just to get the country back to where it is now.
Maybe people smarter than me can come up with a viable plan.
Can I have some of whatever you're smoking... seems like good shit
Aye. Take your blackpills. Prepare for the collapse. Our government is 100% on the take to rule over our ruin.
Some options I heard getting tossed around: People in red states stop paying federal taxes, or pay to the states themselves. Dominion tea party. Enforce election integrity at a local level (e.g. stay for the entire counting process, recording everything. Force way in if necessary.)
We fight back every way we can and voting's a huge one, but so is manning the polls and getting in to local government. We try every legal route available to us and win allies along the way.
We've already tried every legal route. Did people not realize the system is completely corrupted? Trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results is insanity.
Then why bitch and moan? We can do everything on multiple fronts and I will always, always vote.
It got us Trump, Desantis and Noem, didn't it? We know shit was rigged and i expect it to ultimately be exposed to most Americans. I will keep voting and keep my state from turning Democraft.
You cry too much, you know that? Come back when you have high energy or start supporting Trump, pussy.
It works in plenty of states and let's keep it that way and do our best to expose and correct the other states that we can.
People are delusional. I just read somebody on here saying “we need to vote harder so we can catch them”... these people are going to try to vote their way out of the Gulags 😂
Laughing at folks who are actively trying to improve their situation? It takes essentially no time to vote, we show up and at least try, while also getting folks on our side to monitor and work local elections. They won't have coronavirus next time to sidestep all the rules.
They won’t need it. Sorry to burst the bubble fren, but we need a much better plan than “vote them out next time”
That's one of a dozen parts of a front which we'll be attempting and most importantly the biggest part will be working to restore election integrity. Don't ever give up.
Noah knew a storm was coming. Noah didn’t try to stop the storm, because that’s a fools errand. Instead, Noah found a way to weather the storm so he could rebuild after the flood was gone. We need people to rebuild after the flood is gone, not people to drown trying to stop it.
Listen we can multitask. Voting's just one of many things we can and will do and it takes next to zero effort to get off your ass and down to the polls. I will ALWAYS vote and the fact that people here are so resigned and defeatist is disgusting. Stop rolling over and spreading your buttcheeks. This is a high energy forum for WINNING, so let's fucking go and if you don't like an idea you don't mope, you propose a better one, that's how winning gets done.
I dunno who keeps downvoting you, but it looks like you’ve got a secret admirer 😂 I appreciate that you’re trying to stay positive, but we also need a bit of reality here. We’ve had a false government forced upon us and that’s after we got 80M people off their asses to go vote. Record numbers, bigly. The deep state was too deep, and they’re only going to come back stronger. They won’t make the same mistakes twice, and the mistakes they did make were swept under the rug anyways. When I see a solid response to this, I’m happy to back it, but I’m in survival mode right now. Take care of yourself and your loved ones fren, “it’s going to be a dark winter”
Some folks want to cut tail and run. This is supposed to be a high energy site. I don't think the alliance the left built to rig elections is insurmountable and won't crumble on its own. All it takes are a few whistleblowers. That said we should still absolutely be voting in the confirmed red states, lest we don't show up, they get stolen and then they pull the BS they pulled in other states.
We always vote. If folks here have too busy of social lives to not get off their asses for the hour for primaries and the general election then I don't know what to tell them. They've got nothing to lose by voting and we can reform them at the county and local level absolutely even in states stolen from us.
You think that the people that just performed an illegal coup are just going to let us win that easily and open themselves up to jail time? You think they are just going to get rid of mail-in ballots because "coronavirus is gone"?
Some people don't seem to understand how serious this is. This isn't just politics as usual. This is dictator regime type of stuff. Look at Venezuela for an example. They have repeatedly tried voting them out and tried using all of the corrupted legal avenues, nothing works.
We're never as bad as Venezuela. We have allies on the left and at the state, county and local level for honest elections. Let's keep working on every front including exposing them, while we restore election integrity. Stop being so defeatist, we fight everywhere.
I'm not hiding under my bed like someone from Reddit for the last year who did it strapped into a mask. I will always vote and do whatever more I can think of to win and take our country back. I dont see how your plan of giving up, crying and spreading your butt cheeks for the Democrats does anything.
You are scared, whiney, blaming Trump and your TDS is showing. Stop whining and crying and start figuring out how to win. In the mean time you're super annoying and super demoralized if you're not a shill designed to scare away Trump supporters as your negative energy makes folks just want to avoid you.
ahhh yes... show up to monitor... like when they put up cardboard in the windows to block observers? Or like when they parked a FUCKING FORKLIFT between observers and the counters? Or how about when they pushed them back so far they had to use binoculars? Oh, but I'm sure we're get our grievances heard in the court right? Like when that judge decided that the law simply states "observers need to be in the building, doesn't say they need to see what's happening"...
Voting matters but only in states where the vote is protected. The first step is getting everyone in blue-rigged states to pack their shit. It'll be a tough fight.
If all conservatives leave the battleground states they cease to become battlegrounds. We win 100% of their votes for house seats, electoral college votes, and government social program funding.
Did you forget that it was GOP governors and controlled legislatures that let the dims pull off the steal? We must fix the GOP at the state levels and push for new election laws in the red states. We can do this!!!
They'll just do everything in their power to plan and collude to make sure we never get enough of a majority to ever do anything. We might be able to take a few seats in some states, but they aren't just going to let us take back power that easily.
I don’t know if I should call you a doomer or a pussy but I’m gonna block you for wasting my time.
Its not just voting. It's organizing, informing, running for elected positions, and doing whatever else it takes to change government for the better. It is a battle on multiple fronts.
There's now way we're ever going to have a free election again under this regime. The only way moving forward is to remove the tyrants by force. I still say we go vote and overwhelmingly destroy them on any election just so it becomes even more obvious. Force them to make even more excuses.
they arr like demonrat voters!
short emmory
they already forgotten the elections are rigged!
i call it vote harder syndrome
We have to keep trying and this time seek out roles and positions within local elections. Never give up.
Nope. I'll keep voting and doing what I can at the local level to become more active in the process and oversight. We know its an uphill battle, but you sitting around being butt hurt and whiney gets us nowhere. We need winners and those willing to win, not demoralized folks who can't stop crying.
Take your low energy somewhere else. I love Trump and I'll never give up, two areas where you would rather whine and cry over than be a man.
You are crying. You're hysterical and throwing the biggest of temper tantrums. Nothing is ever hopeless and I'll never give up like you have. I'll just do more and work harder and we have to start working at the local level on elections and so much more.
Plus once Biden gives citizenship to the illegals and makes DC and PR states, they won’t even have to cheat. They’re importing Democrat voters by the millions.
A few reasons. For starters, how hard is it to vote in a primary and a general election? However, the lesson I learned was that you can't show up on election day and expect that's enough.
Exactly, they took away your ability to have a represented republic. Gone. Poof! Your voice no longer matters. Period. You now are a Subject, not a Citizen.
Public schools damage the majority's long-term memory with the short time periods and constant interruptions. Think about it for a second before you jump to the defense of your government schools.
Most Americans: "Listen, I'm fat, warm and happy. I don't feel like putting myself in danger or risking everything I have for a political argument."
It only takes 3%
What are you trying to argue about? We went from "Most Americans" to "3%" (only ~3% of Americans fought in the revolutionary war)...to tracking cell phones and drone strikes? Brother, I'm in IT and have been saying the same shit about cell phones and emails for 20 years.
No thieves would return their swags, I don't think there will be a fair election. (Local election is not pretty much a lost cause though)
VOTIUM is an addictive drug. It's a standard staple in a society with an in-tact Social Contract.
From what I gather people are convinced election integrity will be restored before midterms. I will believe it win I see it. These are state issues, first they have to remove mail in ballots and restore signature verification. Then remove Dominion. What's going on in Arizona could potentially help. Lastly we need poll watchers changed into counters and don't leave until everyone leaves. Like I said though I will believe it when I see it.
they in denial.
the MSM tricked them, and many dont even want to accept that.
we have a long way to go to redpill more folks.
We cannot have a civil war because China will come in once we are weakened.
The long game is trying to wake up more Americans to help fight together.
However; I fear there is a segment of Americans that actually like the idea of socialism/communism.
Sheeple has never been more appropriately used.
Hopium.
Beats the hell outta me. Stupid I guess. It’s like if there’s a gaping hole in the ceiling that water keeps pouring through, so you place a bucket under it and keep dumping the bucket. Then, instead of realizing the hole needs to be patched, people are like “hey guys, what we need is to move faster with even more buckets! Get this bucket campaign MOVING!” Then, deep state is standing on the roof, saying “looks like they bought more buckets. Increase the water 100 fold”
we need to disband congress and give their power to the governors and state representatives. there is no reason to have dead weight middle men do our laws when the states have direct lines of communication with the federal government
We will never be able to fix this now, it too late, too many people are brainwashed to hate trump and everyone that stood with him, without actually knowing a single thing about them other than " they're bad"
Our votes were worth less than 3/5ths of what theirs were due to the fraud.
Trump and 3rd party votes were over 95 million. Joes real votes was under 55 million. 3/5ths is .6 55/95 is .57.
Im volunteering to count in my county... It's a start, but this needs to happen.
Thing of how stupid the average person is... now realize the large majority of America is more stupid than that
I don't think anybody has said that.
Yes they are. I just read several posts about it.
the same people bitch and complain about qtards. "Just one more vote guys! Huh yuck!" "Stupid qfag trust much plan. Hahaha!" No self awareness, just like the left. No seriously, joining this site has opened my eyes.
Cuz they are in complete denial about the fucking fraud, and they are bordering on being 'tarded with their constant yammering about future elections and primaries. YOUR VOTE IS DEAD.
Its like everyone forgot about the fraud. They forgot that Biden didn't legitimately win. Trump won in a landslide, even bigger than 2016, and still "lost". The Democrats didn't even legitimately win the Senate. Gold fish memories.
First you must define what it means to vote.
because they still don't get what just happened. With a bit of luck, there is still a plan brewing somewhere which will put a stop to this coup.
Just voting isn't enough anymore, but we have to do more, not less. Get involved.
Because all these forums were always loaded with psyops and yes, you and I were falling for it
"I'm not one of the 50% who are below average intelligence" lol good job
Focus on flipping and packing state legislatures to cure election issues.
You cannot prove the fraud if you don't fucking vote. Jesus christ can we just start deporting these anti voter people? We all are on the same page that our election was rigged, but if in future elections we don't vote, how the fuck can we prove the fraud??
Genuine questions for you, and I mean them with respect.
The fraud was proven up and down. So... what happened? Did DJT get in for the second term? Were the cheaters outed and punished? Were new safeguards implemented to prevent future fraudulent activity?
What's the point of proving the fraud when, demonstrably, nothing is done about it?
It has been made clear that, no matter how much fraud is uncovered, until the laws punishing fraudsters are enforced, there is no point in voting at all.
Bingo, its like people are completely oblivious to what happened. They think "if we just had a little more evidence"....these people still think the system works and they still trust the system. They don't realize the entire system is corrupt to the core.
Bingo, its like people are completely oblivious to what happened. They think "if we just had a little more evidence"....these people still think the system works and they still trust the system. They don't realize the entire system is corrupt to the core.
It's likely been going on in large metros for decades. It was so blatant this time that it was too noticeable, too widespread, too egregious. I bet plenty of independents are even starting have questions on what is going on.
But what good is that if nothing is done about it, right?
Here's the thing. Our avenue to fixing this is now through the state legislatures. And most of those districts are likely not compromised by illegitimate voting. So we have to put in the work it requires, pressuring the people in the legislatures (specifically in swing states) to actually do something to ensure election integrity, or get MAGA people in there that will. And we need everyone in those red counties to vote and make sure of that, not give up.
We proved the fraud in 2020 eight ways from sunday...nobody cared. Not courts government or otherwise. You fucking vote is now even MORE worthless with these cocksuckers taking power.