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BadManOrange 2 points ago +2 / -0

Conservatism has been the counterculture for a long time. People just hadn't realized it. IMO, all of the so-called countercultures of the past were used as a tool to subvert past ideals to get to where we are today. Even if their origins were organic, their conclusions weren't. Truth is that since the 1960s traditional culture has been attacked on all fronts and there were very few people around to protect it. That's why it's always been the real counterculture.