Pipe Fitters Union is fucking stupid. Same with the 798 welders union. Never worked for either but I've met more than enough of their rejects who can't do a fucking job with out 5 guys standing around holding each others dicks.
Lol nothing is absolute and we all know exceptions to the rules but we should only make exceptions for those worthy of exceptions on a case by case bases. I don't hate someone for taking the money, I hate the person who made them 'dependent' on that money. If you have an IQ above 130 you know the slippery slope created by those with good intentions leading us down the path to hell.
Yeah, PF is how I got into welding thus leading to inspection. Nothing good is going to come of this. I went from a dead end job to banking under Trump back to Welders selling their Rigs and PF selling their tools and going into a different trade. It sucks but I don't think our industry can take another hit and keep that cream of the crop we need to make some of the exotic welds. The number of people who can do it who are Americans is going down every year.
So... you mean unions in general? Union workers are a fucking meme; do literally less than minimum and cant get fired in my state. Bring up a complaint and best case scenario, they get moved elsewhere to be someone elses problem.
My dad retired from the Railroad after almost 50 years. He gave up being a supervisor because you couldn't work with the Union Stewards. They have turned every job into a safety violation costing God knows how much in lost income to having high paid skilled labor being slowed down by the lazy fucks that scrapes by being paid equal to or more than the people getting the job done.
My Mom was union and she hated it for the same reason, crap employees who made it through the probation period and now can't be fired even when they refuse to meet standards. Ex works for the VA and she couldn't get people fired for not washing their hands after glove changes drawing blood... There is a serious problem with that kind of protection for those not worthy of the position. We needed them at one point but they started fighting for themselves and not the profit or the future of their workers.
Pipe Fitters Union is fucking stupid. Same with the 798 welders union. Never worked for either but I've met more than enough of their rejects who can't do a fucking job with out 5 guys standing around holding each others dicks.
I typed a bunch of shit out explaining how that happens and how they aren't all bad, then I erased it because you are right and fuck em.
Lol nothing is absolute and we all know exceptions to the rules but we should only make exceptions for those worthy of exceptions on a case by case bases. I don't hate someone for taking the money, I hate the person who made them 'dependent' on that money. If you have an IQ above 130 you know the slippery slope created by those with good intentions leading us down the path to hell.
Just bitter and hope this wakes them up. It has been a shit week lol. PF are one of the better trades left all around but I've met plenty of bad too.
Yeah, PF is how I got into welding thus leading to inspection. Nothing good is going to come of this. I went from a dead end job to banking under Trump back to Welders selling their Rigs and PF selling their tools and going into a different trade. It sucks but I don't think our industry can take another hit and keep that cream of the crop we need to make some of the exotic welds. The number of people who can do it who are Americans is going down every year.
So... you mean unions in general? Union workers are a fucking meme; do literally less than minimum and cant get fired in my state. Bring up a complaint and best case scenario, they get moved elsewhere to be someone elses problem.
My dad retired from the Railroad after almost 50 years. He gave up being a supervisor because you couldn't work with the Union Stewards. They have turned every job into a safety violation costing God knows how much in lost income to having high paid skilled labor being slowed down by the lazy fucks that scrapes by being paid equal to or more than the people getting the job done. My Mom was union and she hated it for the same reason, crap employees who made it through the probation period and now can't be fired even when they refuse to meet standards. Ex works for the VA and she couldn't get people fired for not washing their hands after glove changes drawing blood... There is a serious problem with that kind of protection for those not worthy of the position. We needed them at one point but they started fighting for themselves and not the profit or the future of their workers.
Facts , all unions create Lazy and stupidity people