I love the idea... mathematically, it would be almost impossible to actually win 270. I think we need to have our Patriot party run as Republican in the primaries so we can get out as many swamp GOP as possible.
It’s about a voice and standing up to establishment....at first. It will take awhile to grow, raise money, recruit. We could draw a lot of “independent” voters. Maybe some non radical democrats. I’m pretty optimistic about it. Doing something is better than doing nothing. One of the main things to make noise about is election integrity, gotta fix that first.
at least this time he'll be able to choose candidates that will maga, as opposed to candidates he eventually has to expose. not all of his choices were bad ones; some people obviously had a specific role to fill...but i've always felt that prez maga chose who to pick based as much on "here's a rat bastard that needs to be exposed" as anything else. i'm sure he and his loyalists have their eyes on some good candidates for '22 and '24. it's a damn shame we're stuck with mcconnell and lindsey et al. for 6 more years....since they just got re-elected, they must feel untouchable, with 6 more bright years of scamming ahead of them.
the fact that biden is keeping wray ought to tell you all you need to know; prez maga exposed him for what he is, a scummy ice weasel. he couldn't fire them all (he left office with a shit-ton of his appointments never filled) but he sure did expose them.
You do have a good point... but I think it would leach from the republicans, and not much from the democrats... but I could be wrong.
Check out the election of 1912. Woodrow Wilson won 40 states, over 400 electoral college votes, with only 41.8% of the votes. This is because Taft and Roosevelt were competing and each got 23% and 27% of the vote, respectively. If those were combined, they would have easily beat the 41% of Wilson. Special mention to Debs, a fucking Socialist, who got 6% of the vote.
So, let's say a 3rd party does do better, but no party gets 270 electoral college votes. It would go to the states which certainly would vote for either Dem or Rep and doubtful they will vote Patriot because the people who would vote representing the state are already Dem or Rep...
So, that's why I think.
But you do make a great point... maybe now is the perfect time. But I still stand by my statement where we need to get Patriot candidates to primary the swamp.
"Republican" would become the new 3rd party. I think we'd see a lot of Republicans actually switch over, and if they didn't, they just committed career suicide.
100%. Otherwise, the GOP will play pretend and blame the Dems while supporting idiotic policy, act concerned when elections come up, and then turn right around and screw the base, as usual.
Yes, I agree, initially it would be very difficult to get the 270. But, in time, while the GOP dies its very own ugly death, the Patriot party can continue on building until such time that the GOP is just the latest Whig party.
Finally, at long last, most Republicans are finally starting to see that the GOP is no better than the Dem party. It's betrayal IMO makes it even worse. In fact, we now have confirmation that there is a Uniparty, never mind the blue v red FAKE divide.
Nowhere is it written that democrats and Republicans are eternal. Just ask the whigs. All we have to do is uproot the establishment from its corruption, defeat deep state beurocrats embedded like ticks in every institution and get through to the average American dedpite big tech censorship and corporate media propaganda. We also fought off the largest empire on earth for our independence.
At this point I believe it would be harder to fix the Republican party than just start a new one. The only downside would be funding issues. Having said that, I am 100% on board.
While I loathe the RINO's and the Republican party as it stands today, here is a warning and some food for thought for a possible future scenario that they may be plotting:
Let's remove from discussion for a moment the structural disadvantage of a third party and look at just how the Republicans expect to survive.
In short, they hope we do start another party. They don't want us. The RINO's don't want ANY association with President Trump or the MAGA base.
They intend to rebuild the Republican party by teaming with the Democrats on amnesty and immigration and courting the Indian-American vote, conservative Hispanics and keeping enough of their boomer base of whites to survive, until they are replaced by the people from the key groups above. They will support massive immigration and worker programs that will lead to citizen ship on a fast track for these people, working in tandem with the other half of the Uniparty, the Democrats.
They don't expect to win at first, but I believe this is their plan after they support mass immigration, particularly from India. This is also why they will run Nikki Haley in 2024. They are more than willing to loose a few elections to make this happen.
Meanwhile, our new party and it's members will be branded and labelled as "untouchables" and White KKK domestic terrorists, conveniently sweeped out of the Republican party's way. We will then loose even more power and eventually, members from attrition.
I believe that we have to take over the Republican party, or destroy it completely, as from the scenario painted above, they could become mortally dangerous to the MAGA movement.
P.S. This didn't just come out of my head - I'm hearing it suggested from a few contacts in the Republican party leadership.
What do you pedes think? There is a danger here, I have to admit.
While I loathe the RINO's and the Republican party as it stands today, ...
You, me and some nearly 80 million Americans. Forget 75 million, if a real audit was done, the 80 figure is more accurate.
. . .They don't want us. The RINO's don't want ANY association with President Trump or the MAGA base.
Agreed. A new home is certainly in order for very many Patriots.
. . . They will support massive immigration and worker programs that will lead to citizen ship on a fast track for these people, working in tandem with the other half of the Uniparty, the Democrats.
The rat bastard RINO's will do all that they need to do in order to survive, except it will be worse. Before long, we will re-enter the Trans Pacific Partnership. That with the Paris accords in combination will ultimately destroy what is left of our economic engine. So much the better for the Chyna despot and frens. Before long, we will have the Green New Deal bullshit shoved down our throats. Not good!
Meanwhile, our new party and it's members will be branded and labelled as "untouchables" and White KKK domestic terrorists, conveniently sweeped out of the Republican party's way. We will then loose even more power and eventually, members from attrition.
They will attack any opposition, period. I for one do NOT care. What we need to ensure is an effort to go back to paper ballots and real elections, free of the computerized thievery currently in place. Having said that, it may take more than just this, as in, taking back our government per our greater numbers if need be.
I believe that we have to take over the Republican party, or destroy it completely, as from the scenario painted above, they could become mortally dangerous to the MAGA movement.
Fish or cut bait. Can't have both and survive. Sorry. The GOP deserves to be destroyed because it is nothing other than the weak, ugly and sad sibling of the mean, nasty and diabolical Dem party
Trump is just the man for this type of resistance. He is not alone in the leadership of this effort. I can see Jordan, and many others that are eager, yound, strong and determined. It can be a powerful resistance not fueled and funded by the Soros types, but funded by Americans interested in saving the US Constitution, the BoR, and our way of life.
I was presenting this scenario to make sure people know what we are up against, as these swamp monsters have no intention of going quietly into that good night.
Yeah, more discussion and far more action is needed. I remain hopeful that more and more Americans are paying attention and getting daily confirmation of all the damage that the DemonRats are pushing.
To each his own. If Trump is a patriot trying to save this great nation, and he calls the party the Patriot party, I am in.
You can wait for somebody, whomever that may be, to try and put a strong opposing party into play, and maybe by the year 3210 your Independent party will surface.
I agree with you on the fact that it is all rigged. Paper ballots, and let's have an independent body do the actual, audit enable vote count.
You may be right. I just don't follow all the PC bullshit that the Dems and their frens spew non stop. In essence, the DS can take their dog whistles, all of them, and shove it deep.
Newsflash! The DS as led initially by puke face Paul Ryan was certain to delay, obstruct, misdirect, collude, and be as deceitful as possible to keep Trump from achieving much of anything.
What do you think of Mitch the Bitch now? LMAO.
The entire US Congress is full of compromised vipers that deserve to be removed from office yesterday.
All that said, it is amazing that Trump was able to do as much as he did.
I love the idea... mathematically, it would be almost impossible to actually win 270. I think we need to have our Patriot party run as Republican in the primaries so we can get out as many swamp GOP as possible.
It’s about a voice and standing up to establishment....at first. It will take awhile to grow, raise money, recruit. We could draw a lot of “independent” voters. Maybe some non radical democrats. I’m pretty optimistic about it. Doing something is better than doing nothing. One of the main things to make noise about is election integrity, gotta fix that first.
at least this time he'll be able to choose candidates that will maga, as opposed to candidates he eventually has to expose. not all of his choices were bad ones; some people obviously had a specific role to fill...but i've always felt that prez maga chose who to pick based as much on "here's a rat bastard that needs to be exposed" as anything else. i'm sure he and his loyalists have their eyes on some good candidates for '22 and '24. it's a damn shame we're stuck with mcconnell and lindsey et al. for 6 more years....since they just got re-elected, they must feel untouchable, with 6 more bright years of scamming ahead of them.
The way he chose that MAGA FBI director Wray? Sorry, I hope Trump just provides fire and fuel. Let him run his businesses now,
the fact that biden is keeping wray ought to tell you all you need to know; prez maga exposed him for what he is, a scummy ice weasel. he couldn't fire them all (he left office with a shit-ton of his appointments never filled) but he sure did expose them.
Why??? Our votes don't matter anyway. This would be a perfect time to get this going. We'd automatically have 60+Million at the get go
You do have a good point... but I think it would leach from the republicans, and not much from the democrats... but I could be wrong.
Check out the election of 1912. Woodrow Wilson won 40 states, over 400 electoral college votes, with only 41.8% of the votes. This is because Taft and Roosevelt were competing and each got 23% and 27% of the vote, respectively. If those were combined, they would have easily beat the 41% of Wilson. Special mention to Debs, a fucking Socialist, who got 6% of the vote.
So, let's say a 3rd party does do better, but no party gets 270 electoral college votes. It would go to the states which certainly would vote for either Dem or Rep and doubtful they will vote Patriot because the people who would vote representing the state are already Dem or Rep...
So, that's why I think.
But you do make a great point... maybe now is the perfect time. But I still stand by my statement where we need to get Patriot candidates to primary the swamp.
"Republican" would become the new 3rd party. I think we'd see a lot of Republicans actually switch over, and if they didn't, they just committed career suicide.
You can’t win by infiltrating but they can co-opt the infiltrators like the tea party was co-opted. Clean break time.
You're gonna get leg-humped by GOP shills and staffers for saying that, but it is 100% true.
100%. Otherwise, the GOP will play pretend and blame the Dems while supporting idiotic policy, act concerned when elections come up, and then turn right around and screw the base, as usual.
Yes, I agree, initially it would be very difficult to get the 270. But, in time, while the GOP dies its very own ugly death, the Patriot party can continue on building until such time that the GOP is just the latest Whig party.
Finally, at long last, most Republicans are finally starting to see that the GOP is no better than the Dem party. It's betrayal IMO makes it even worse. In fact, we now have confirmation that there is a Uniparty, never mind the blue v red FAKE divide.
Nowhere is it written that democrats and Republicans are eternal. Just ask the whigs. All we have to do is uproot the establishment from its corruption, defeat deep state beurocrats embedded like ticks in every institution and get through to the average American dedpite big tech censorship and corporate media propaganda. We also fought off the largest empire on earth for our independence.
Somehow, most all Americans forget this. And, the DS is surely happy to have everyone believe that change is IMPOSSIBLE.
Yet, nothing is further from the truth.
At this point I believe it would be harder to fix the Republican party than just start a new one. The only downside would be funding issues. Having said that, I am 100% on board.
If the swamp could cheat an election at such a large scale to outnumber our millions of votes, what would stop them from cheating again in 2024?
This would be a great start
While I loathe the RINO's and the Republican party as it stands today, here is a warning and some food for thought for a possible future scenario that they may be plotting:
Let's remove from discussion for a moment the structural disadvantage of a third party and look at just how the Republicans expect to survive.
In short, they hope we do start another party. They don't want us. The RINO's don't want ANY association with President Trump or the MAGA base.
They intend to rebuild the Republican party by teaming with the Democrats on amnesty and immigration and courting the Indian-American vote, conservative Hispanics and keeping enough of their boomer base of whites to survive, until they are replaced by the people from the key groups above. They will support massive immigration and worker programs that will lead to citizen ship on a fast track for these people, working in tandem with the other half of the Uniparty, the Democrats.
They don't expect to win at first, but I believe this is their plan after they support mass immigration, particularly from India. This is also why they will run Nikki Haley in 2024. They are more than willing to loose a few elections to make this happen.
Meanwhile, our new party and it's members will be branded and labelled as "untouchables" and White KKK domestic terrorists, conveniently sweeped out of the Republican party's way. We will then loose even more power and eventually, members from attrition.
I believe that we have to take over the Republican party, or destroy it completely, as from the scenario painted above, they could become mortally dangerous to the MAGA movement.
P.S. This didn't just come out of my head - I'm hearing it suggested from a few contacts in the Republican party leadership.
What do you pedes think? There is a danger here, I have to admit.
You, me and some nearly 80 million Americans. Forget 75 million, if a real audit was done, the 80 figure is more accurate.
Agreed. A new home is certainly in order for very many Patriots.
The rat bastard RINO's will do all that they need to do in order to survive, except it will be worse. Before long, we will re-enter the Trans Pacific Partnership. That with the Paris accords in combination will ultimately destroy what is left of our economic engine. So much the better for the Chyna despot and frens. Before long, we will have the Green New Deal bullshit shoved down our throats. Not good!
They will attack any opposition, period. I for one do NOT care. What we need to ensure is an effort to go back to paper ballots and real elections, free of the computerized thievery currently in place. Having said that, it may take more than just this, as in, taking back our government per our greater numbers if need be.
Fish or cut bait. Can't have both and survive. Sorry. The GOP deserves to be destroyed because it is nothing other than the weak, ugly and sad sibling of the mean, nasty and diabolical Dem party
Trump is just the man for this type of resistance. He is not alone in the leadership of this effort. I can see Jordan, and many others that are eager, yound, strong and determined. It can be a powerful resistance not fueled and funded by the Soros types, but funded by Americans interested in saving the US Constitution, the BoR, and our way of life.
I pretty much agree.
I was presenting this scenario to make sure people know what we are up against, as these swamp monsters have no intention of going quietly into that good night.
Just throwing it out there for discussion.
Yeah, more discussion and far more action is needed. I remain hopeful that more and more Americans are paying attention and getting daily confirmation of all the damage that the DemonRats are pushing.
It has a stupid ring to it. Let the crappy NFL have the name. Call it the Independent Party.
Yet still, no matter what you call it, it’s gonna lose as long as the system is rigged,
To each his own. If Trump is a patriot trying to save this great nation, and he calls the party the Patriot party, I am in.
You can wait for somebody, whomever that may be, to try and put a strong opposing party into play, and maybe by the year 3210 your Independent party will surface.
I agree with you on the fact that it is all rigged. Paper ballots, and let's have an independent body do the actual, audit enable vote count.
Patriot party is a dog whistle for terrorists. Call it the "Fweedom" party.
You may be right. I just don't follow all the PC bullshit that the Dems and their frens spew non stop. In essence, the DS can take their dog whistles, all of them, and shove it deep.
Let's start a voting machines company instead. Better odds
Trump was never that great at choosing good candidates for positions. Hope someone else is choosing them, like Bannon
we would be choosing them
Lmao we did a good job of choosing fuckos too
Newsflash! The DS as led initially by puke face Paul Ryan was certain to delay, obstruct, misdirect, collude, and be as deceitful as possible to keep Trump from achieving much of anything.
What do you think of Mitch the Bitch now? LMAO.
The entire US Congress is full of compromised vipers that deserve to be removed from office yesterday.
All that said, it is amazing that Trump was able to do as much as he did.
Wouldn't we need elections for that?