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WorkLiftSleepRepeat 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'd prefer civil war over anything. Why let them have Hawaii, California, New York, and other places? Far better to completely and utterly defeat them in a war and establish right wing rule in the country and abolish their shit politics.

Then either bring about a new republic similar to our old one but less likely to be cucked like the old one did through erosion or societal decay.

Only property owners can vote and no weird amending of the constitution to weaken it.

Yeah, lots of suffering will come for many. But remember the American Revolution was as much a civil war as it was against foreigners. Don't shy from it, our founding fathers didn't.

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NullifyAndSecede [S] 1 point ago +2 / -1

Both of those wars can be described as a desire to separate met by a violent attempt at forcing unity.

One of those separations succeeded, and one failed. In both cases those seeking separation were peaceful those forcing unity would rather murder those seeking to leave than allow them the liberty of self-governance.

Secession is a peaceful act.