Yup I've got some family members who have gotten wrapped up in the liberal echo chamber that Philly and it's suburbs promote. They are both at decent levels of TDS. In a way I can empathize with them because I've seen their social circles and to say a single positive about drumpf would result in instant banishment so they have to form some levels of delusion. To be conservative can mean quite often that you will be going it alone. At least we have each other on this site to bounce ideas.