What's that? Your Union endorsed Biden and you're surprised you don't have a job?
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Why do labor unions endorse the dems anyways?
They pay the Higher Ups for their loyalty, who then look present themselves as the "Common Man" and help perpetuate the propaganda within their echo chambers for control of people who, if thinking clearly, would be leading them all to the guillotine with burning torches and pitchforks.
I have a friend who's Dad was UAW. His father died from cancer when he was 10, and the Union benefits 'kept their family from starving'.
This, he explained to me once, was why he was "An Independent thinker who always votes for the Democratic Party." I asked if he'd ever voted for a Republican, even once.
Nope.
Then that's not much of an Independent Thinker, is it?
Unions, like all other forms of social security and welfare, are merely organizations to maintain propaganda and exert control.
I'm not against organized negotiations of workers, really. But I think the minute they start telling people how to vote, they've stepped over the line from workplace concerns into controlling personal freedoms.
Would it be possible to start new unions for the workers? Based alternatives to the old ones which could lure some of the members away from the old ones and weaken their power a bit, redpill at least some of the workers and so on? What are the laws and regulations like? You really should do everything to chip away from the Dem/uniparty base, they cheat, sure, but the fewer actual voters they have the harder that is, especially for them to do it unnoticed.
The unions have negotated contracts with places that will pay union wages, and it would be highly unlikely for a place to break their contract, without facing reprocussions.
Sigh, there you go. Ruining a good daydream with facts and stuff.
Good observation.
Still, I'd like to hope there'd be some way to break the monopoly.
I completely agree. I would love to help the other guy but the reality is I have found the best way to affect any change is from the inside.
The worst unions are usually repping state/federal govt ‘work’.
Their excuse is they get ‘job security cuz private sector pays more...’. It’s like 99 weeks of unemployment. Fucking apes...
kickbacks, money, power, etc
It's supposed ro be "money, power, respect" but they don't seem to give a shit about any respect.
The answer to your question is simple, once you understand one simple concept:
Labor Unions only care about one thing: The union leadership. They care about nothing else. They don't care about the line-workers, they don't care about the job, they don't care about the craft.
Certainly they talk a good game. They provide training, and pensions, and insurance. However, these are only to ensure a continuous line of future dues-payers, and have no other purpose. If they could get by without any of these, they would (except the insurance and pension funds, because, as Jimmy Hoffa pioneered, those funds are a great source of money to skim off into slush funds and personal bank accounts.)
They will do nothing to protect/defend the individual worker, unless that worker has some pull, or knows the right people and has favors owed.
Once you realize that unions are largely a scam built to enrich the few who run it, you realize why the unions are so eager to (apparently) fuck themselves over. Oh, you're in the shop and you're now out of work? Tough shit - keep paying those dues and premiums, or we drop all the benefits that you paid so much and so long into. Oh, and now we get the chance to whine long and loud about how unfair those evil managers and execs have been in causing this massive layoff.
Sounds like a shitty union.
Most of them are.
As someone in a union, that's just downright wrong. Anti-unionism is anti-american
"The only effective answer to organized greed is organized labor."
Alrighty.... as someone which only sees the problem from the outside, and as our esteemed based Pede looking at it from within...
...how do you solve the issue of union management greed and political graft while protecting the representation of the actual workers?
Seriously. From the guy who has actually seen it on a first hand basis, how would you solve it?
... aaaaand he’s gone.
Quickest way to get rid of a shill is to ask them to actually respond with intelligent answers.
It's a legitimate question. Workers deserve representation, but representatives that won't go corrupt and sell them out as empty votes for a political machine.
How do we find a functional balance?
So basically.... The DNC/Uniparty on an industry-by-industry case?
Mini-swamps? Bogs?
Swamplettes?
But the whole point of unions is collective bargaining for the worker and the ability to strike, negotiate wages and benefits.
In fact Amazon and Walmart have worked to gut unions at every level.
How exactly are union leadership elected?
Habit.
They unironically still believe they're supporting the same Democrat party of 30-40 years ago. They're really just too stupid to see that the platform has COMPLETELY changed from what they used to believe in.
Red pills are everywhere now. Everything they do and every policy move they make now is another red pill.
Yeah, now we just have to keep being vocal enough to shove it down their throats.
Redpiling most people is like trying to medicate a cat - expect resistance, and for them to try and hurt you.
I don't care any more.
It's time to be the Pain in the Ass that just Won't Let It Go.
Not my President!
Not anyone's president!
i keep telling my gf this stuff. she was "raised democrat" so it's hard....but she also says she has an open mind when i talk to her...so. she's starting to see it
"I did not leave the Democratic Party. The Democratic Party left me." - Ronald Reagan.
Just lost your good paying pipeline/pipe fitter job?
Good fucking LUCK finding another one. There are so many people out of work right now. Maybe when WTI gets back to $75-$100/bbl people can get back to work
Kinda looking forward to Texas seceding, so we can start producing our own oil without the bullshit.
Mind you, all the pipefitters from the Occupied States of America are going to have a bitch of a time getting work visas to get across the wall that's going to get erected along the Red River.
Here's an idea. Based manufacturers should change the "Made in USA" labels to "Made in Occupied USA".
I'd rather see "Made in Texas", Made in "South Dakota", Made in "North Dakota", etcetera labels so we spend our money to support conservative States/companies/communities/employees.
Id go farther and include the city name
KEK!
The GDP will fall back to 1% again. Which means we will go back to 8% unemployment. everyone who started working under Trump will be laid off.
....and forced to suckle at the government teat. Probably what Pedo Joe had in mind.
Biden explicitly said he would outright end these peoples' jobs and they still unionized and voted for him.
Fucking morons. I hope it hurts a lot. Maybe that will finally change their minds. Severely doubt it.
Only a few of them voted for Biden. The rest of the votes were faked!
Red pills can be taken orally, or rectally.
They chose poorly.
Boo-frickin-hoo. Guess u better learn to code!
Wait until Union members loose their private health care.
As a unionfag myself, I can say with 110% confidence that the average union worker is based as fuck. The leadership however is generally a bunch of socialist wannabe politicians.
Yup, our union is all Trump supporters, and then I got a card in the mail from the union and it was a campaign ad for Joe Biden.
Perfect representation of what's wrong with our country. The masses are based, but the shills are in all the positions of power.
Then how do we fix that?
My guess is: Good people need to start seeking the positions of power so it isn't only bad people doing it.
We don't want power, because we don't want to abuse it and we don't want the responsibility that comes with it. But maybe we should be pursuing power just to make sure it gets used the right way.
That goes with non-political power too, such as management positions on corporate ladders.
You know, good unionfags can probably knock together a guillotine in under half an hour....
Just sayin.
Boo Hoo communist. I just looked in that box where I keep all my fucks, and son-of-a-bitch it's empty
"Behold yon field upon which I grow my fucks. And see, in sooth, it is barren!" - Shakespeare, probably.
You get what you fucking deserve!
I don't feel any sympathy towards the Biden voters who lost their jobs. Congratulations, in fact, you got what you voted for. 4 years of unemployment and heading towards bankruptcy is the least amount of punishment you deserve for creating this disaster for millions who didn't vote for that pedophile.
I have a little.... if you never get redpilled, it's hard to see outside the MSM Propaganda. For some of these bluepilled normies, it's an unfortunate first step to realizing they've been manipulated and lied to.
It's a pity, then, that the level of cheating and fraud outstripped our efforts to get the truth out there.
Then again...if there was no hope, their propaganda wouldn't be necessary.
I know I’m not supposed to like this movie, but goddamn I like this movie
There's no shame in liking a legitimately well made film.
Reminds them that they can set aside their politics when they try and actually make something of quality.
Yeah, I haven't seen it myself, but I heard it's a legitimately good movie.
The SJWs all hated it because white people aren't allowed to have mental health issues due to the society surrounding them being all fucked up.
Funny how that works out. For 90% of the stuff out there, if the critics hate it that's generally a good sign. If the MSM is praising it, it likely means it's propaganda or just more brain-draining drivel.
They probably didnt vote Biden
Strip away all the bullshit and NOBODY really voted Biden.
We were robbed of a legitimate Landslide.
...and I don't know about you, but I'm PISSED about it.
We CANNOT allow them to memory hole this.
I'm not "moving on", I'm not "getting over it", I'm not "Getting past it"
I'm not accepting it. I'm not playing your word games to give him legitimacy.
Unity, my ass.
RESISTANCE until I see his shriveled ass sitting behind a defendants table in a courtroom.
I will never forgive, and I will never forget.
I will always remind them that Joe Biden is not the president.
Join arms with me, Pede. We'll make the loudest choir they've ever heard as we sing the truth.
Not the President, and WE who remain will be here - shitposting, and memeing, and redpilling normies.... till the stench is overpowering enough to have the DATA JUDGED and that FRAUD REMOVED!
They can now die in Middle East after their president getting his Nobel peace prize.
Trump/Flynn 2024
I dunno. I'd like Flynn to head up the DOJ myself.
Can we do Trump/Trump Jr. 2024?
They can do rally together and call it the .....Double Trump Stump!
(sorry, Dad joke. Couldn't help it).
But seriously. I would be STOKED to see Jr. in office
(Yes, I know you're on here someplace, Don Jr.)
You watch, those unions will still vote Dem in the future. Men don't think much when they get paid not to.
Give them Bread and Circus, as the old saying goes.
I always tell em- ‘Oy vey!’
No one voted for Joe. This is what you're forgetting.
I'm pretty sure George Floyd did.
Twice.
In both Georgia and Michigan.
Union: I know we are letting you go, but we’re really going to need you to pay your union dues before you leave.
"Leader of the Union. All of our questions he ignores. He washed his hands and he dreamt of his reward: a seat in the House of Lords"
you get what you deserve!
Keep in mind the vast majority of union workers voted Trump, it didn't matter. The fix was always in, he could have had 100 million votes and still lost.
This is just the beginning of job losses, too.
There are a large number of people that have a soul based connection to a political party. What do I mean by that? You are, at your core, a spirit. You have a soul (not the same thing) and you live in a body. The soul is your intellect, will, and emotions. Satan operates by manipulating people's souls, usually their emotions. Many people form a connection to a political party or movement based purely on that and will just completely ignore facts that contradict their allegiance.
My grandfather was a righteous man in nearly every way. Very much a conservative in his thinking and the way he lived. Yet he always voted Democrat because of his remembrance of FDR.
Union people vote democrat for these kinds of reasons. Minorities vote dem for these kinds of reasons. Very few people buy into the actual party platforms and most really don't want to vote but they're constantly told it's their duty so they trudge off to the polls and complain then vote based on feelings.
Adroit, very accurate analysis. I wish I could poke holes in it.
I don't LIKE it, but it's true.
This would be a far, far better country if we could convince people to THINK rather than FEEL before voting.
But alas, I'm afraid that went out the door with Civics classes.
Now? Now we're living in the first 10 minutes of "Idiocracy".
I know a MI and OH family whose members are ardent hunters, pro gun, yet vote Dem because of strong UAW and another construction trade union affiliation. In 40 years they never deviated from the thug lifestyle..."busting heads", wrecking non-union construction sites, etc.
In these places, unionism trumps religion and race as far as allegiances go. Having been exposed to this mindset for way too long I hope they're first in line for repercussions. But they still vote Dem because, "my bread and butter is at stake". They are enemies of America.
Weren't you paying attention? Everybody voted for Biden. The Dead. The Canadians. The Alien Greys.
Everybody.
A lot.
Most popular President Elect in all the Multiverse.
Jimmy Hoffa shit still poppin
Because only a clown would still do that! Honk, honk!
I called these jokers out of Shillit's politics subshillit and got banned for a day because I told these idiots that they made their bed so lie in it.
Fucking IDIOTS man.
Modern society has subsisted on the message that should not have to bear the consequences of your actions, but should reap the bounty of the actions of others.
....yes, fucking idiots.
Plumbers and Pipefitters got screwed by their union leaders about a losing hotel money pit in Florida circa 2001. Obviously still getting screwed!